Prometheus - Ridley Scott's 'Alien Prequel' (or not)...
Discussion
JonRB said:
andyroo said:
On my second viewing i saw that they scan the planet and detect metal and then fly to it, rather than stumbling across the pyramid. It's only mentioned in passing though.
Just as well it was the only metallic object on the entire planet then. 
About the Engineers headless body, chopped off by the closing door. Perhaps the infected Engineer wanted his head chopped off, knowing he was infected, and decided to commit suicide that way ?
In all the Alien films, Ripley eventually takes on the Alien creature and kills it. As far as I know in Prometheus, you do not directly get to see one single 'Alien' being killed (excluding the infected hosts). I think Prometheus would have been a better film, if they had included this missing element. Shame, a missed opportunity.
Isn't Lindelof also doing the script/screenplay for Star Trek 2 ?
In all the Alien films, Ripley eventually takes on the Alien creature and kills it. As far as I know in Prometheus, you do not directly get to see one single 'Alien' being killed (excluding the infected hosts). I think Prometheus would have been a better film, if they had included this missing element. Shame, a missed opportunity.
Isn't Lindelof also doing the script/screenplay for Star Trek 2 ?
Edited by John_S4x4 on Tuesday 19th June 07:55
Pesty said:
Just had a thought.
Does David breath? perhaps he doesn't need to but he needs to force air through somewhere in order to speak. So where are his lungs? in his torso like us?
If so
How does he play the f
king flute in order to fly the next space ship.
I've seen it all now. The guy walks, talks, moves just like a human, the designers have built adaptive AI that can learn - he's effectively superhuman.Does David breath? perhaps he doesn't need to but he needs to force air through somewhere in order to speak. So where are his lungs? in his torso like us?
If so
How does he play the f
king flute in order to fly the next space ship.And the biggest plot hole you can find is that he might not be able to play a f***ing flute!?
John_S4x4 said:
In all the Alien films, Ripley eventually takes on the Alien creature and kills it. As far as I know in Prometheus, you do not directly get to see one single 'Alien' being killed (excluding the infected hosts). I think Prometheus would have been a better film, if they had included this missing element. Shame, a missed opportunity.
They could have put one on the alien ship at the end, played some soothing music and then had it jump out. She could have flushed it out of the air lock. It would have been epic, nobody would have seen that plot coming.Finally got round to seeing this on Saturday.
I've scanned through the thread so I won't bother pointing out the same plots holes etc.
Visually it was stunning and if I was expecting a 'brain off' movie, I would have throughly enjoyed it; but I wasn't. For a film directed by Ridley Scott, I wanted a something engaging and thought provoking. Part of me is concerned that Ridley is not the great movie master that I thought he was and instead has been propped up in the past by decent script writers.
I want Ridely to be that awesome film maker though and I'm hoping that this film is the start of his big plan. If he had come out before this was released and said "Ok folks; this might not make any sense on it's own, but I'm doing a sequel or two that will explain everything" then I would be happy. Maybe set it up as a sequence of films, akin to LOTRs or Star Wars.
That aside, I do have a theory:
One theory is that maybe the Engineers inadvertently created the Xenomorphs, their homeworld has been wiped out and when the Engineer is awoken from stasis he believes that humans are infected by the Xenomorphs and kills them to prevent them spreading. His mission to Earth may have been to warn humanity or check to see if the XMs had spread to there.
We kind of gather from the architecture inside the ship and the goo found by David that XMs already exist, we just don't see one until the end.
Another is that the Engineer's base may not be a military installation at all. Maybe the Engineers have been pretty much wiped out by XMs thousands of years before and this planet is a staging point for the remaining few Engineers to reseed the galaxy with their own DNA and kick start their civilisation again.
Obviously this leads to the question as to why the Engineer in stasis goes berserk. I think this has got something to do with what David says to him. David throughout the film is shown as having a quiet resentment for humanity, displayed in some of his remarks and his talk with Holloway when he spikes his drink. David may have said something to the Engineer in a bid to sabotage humanities chances of meeting it's creator.
Part of this comes across in the 'David' viral video. He mentions that he is capable of carrying out tasks that humans find 'unethical', that he understands human emotion but does not feel them and that things like war, poverty and unnecessary cruelty make him sad. Maybe David was acting with an ulterior motive, believing himself to be better than his creators and seeking to destroy them?
That's my random bunch of theories anyway...
If Ridley was seeking to create a film that promoted discussion, left people trying to guess the outcome and fill in the gaps with their own ideas, then he succeeded...
I've scanned through the thread so I won't bother pointing out the same plots holes etc.
Visually it was stunning and if I was expecting a 'brain off' movie, I would have throughly enjoyed it; but I wasn't. For a film directed by Ridley Scott, I wanted a something engaging and thought provoking. Part of me is concerned that Ridley is not the great movie master that I thought he was and instead has been propped up in the past by decent script writers.
I want Ridely to be that awesome film maker though and I'm hoping that this film is the start of his big plan. If he had come out before this was released and said "Ok folks; this might not make any sense on it's own, but I'm doing a sequel or two that will explain everything" then I would be happy. Maybe set it up as a sequence of films, akin to LOTRs or Star Wars.
That aside, I do have a theory:
One theory is that maybe the Engineers inadvertently created the Xenomorphs, their homeworld has been wiped out and when the Engineer is awoken from stasis he believes that humans are infected by the Xenomorphs and kills them to prevent them spreading. His mission to Earth may have been to warn humanity or check to see if the XMs had spread to there.
We kind of gather from the architecture inside the ship and the goo found by David that XMs already exist, we just don't see one until the end.
Another is that the Engineer's base may not be a military installation at all. Maybe the Engineers have been pretty much wiped out by XMs thousands of years before and this planet is a staging point for the remaining few Engineers to reseed the galaxy with their own DNA and kick start their civilisation again.
Obviously this leads to the question as to why the Engineer in stasis goes berserk. I think this has got something to do with what David says to him. David throughout the film is shown as having a quiet resentment for humanity, displayed in some of his remarks and his talk with Holloway when he spikes his drink. David may have said something to the Engineer in a bid to sabotage humanities chances of meeting it's creator.
Part of this comes across in the 'David' viral video. He mentions that he is capable of carrying out tasks that humans find 'unethical', that he understands human emotion but does not feel them and that things like war, poverty and unnecessary cruelty make him sad. Maybe David was acting with an ulterior motive, believing himself to be better than his creators and seeking to destroy them?
That's my random bunch of theories anyway...
If Ridley was seeking to create a film that promoted discussion, left people trying to guess the outcome and fill in the gaps with their own ideas, then he succeeded...
The Beaver King said:
Part of me is concerned that Ridley is not the great movie master that I thought he was and instead has been propped up in the past by decent script writers.
I think this could be the answer...or he has simply lost his touch. Some of his interviews pre-film were very Hollywood.It is difficult to tell whether directors go s
t or if they were any god at all (and had helpers to cover their failings). Lucas springs to mind immediately.
Sooo, black oil that changes people and leaves worm-y things in their eyes. Didn't the xfiles do this 15 years ago?
That aside - colour me disappointed. I'd not seen the trailers, avoided internet speculation etc, so knew nothing in advance. For me it fell rather flat, was derivative and contrived, and for a film with religious overtones it lacked a soul. 6/10
That aside - colour me disappointed. I'd not seen the trailers, avoided internet speculation etc, so knew nothing in advance. For me it fell rather flat, was derivative and contrived, and for a film with religious overtones it lacked a soul. 6/10
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