Automotive Vloggers (Vol. 5)

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Dave200

4,080 posts

221 months

Thursday 4th April
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fridaypassion said:
InformationSuperHighway said:
For the purposes of youtube.. hats off to him. Also, as far as I know.. none of the main rebuilt channels has done a GT before. I'm sure this will help propel his channel for sure.

Also agree on the Copart thing.. I feel like not being able to see the cars properly (Bad photos aside) is part of the business model.

It also looks like the windscreen surround is bent inwards as well. Maybe it's an optical illusion based on the caved in windscreen, but it looks like the A pillars are bent as well. Proper mess that car.

But.. he got it running, which seemed like a big win. Looking forward to the next episode for sure. I like him a lot.
Copart are shocking there's no way at all they should be doing pure online but then you'd be crazy to buy a salvage car without going through it very carefully. Where do they find these people?? They only get away with it as long as there are enough stupid people bidding!

If you have a spare 10 minutes the "victims of copart" FB group is absolutely hilarious. All the guys with big ideas about taking copart to court for the damaged Audi they just got tucked up with. It's very funny watching these people brought up on a spoon fed diet of consumer rights they can't compute dealing with the harsh reality of being properly stung.

The only ones I have sympathy for are the alarming number of stolen cars that get listed and bought on there which is wrong.
It's almost like the guy in the video knew exactly what he was doing. Buying a car that was mostly straight and then fixing a few problems wouldn't allow him to make thumbnails where he pulls exaggerated faces after all.

skwdenyer

16,697 posts

241 months

Thursday 4th April
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WelshGTI said:
Mezzanine said:
WelshGTI said:
skwdenyer said:
I’m getting pretty sick of Marques MKBHD / Auto Focus pretending to be a credible, knowledgeable car reviewer. His lack of product knowledge is staggering. And when he starts branding a car as “the worst I’ve ever reviewed” when he’s no real background in the subject, it is just plain reckless.
Why isn't he credible? He's reviewing cars that are mostly tech focused as that's his thing. His reviews are actually real world use of the car, what knowledge do you want him to have? Again, don't like it don't watch it.
I’d never watched any of his content before but was intrigued about his review of the Fisker Ocean, it’s title and it’s impact on a spiralling business.

Have to say what he portrayed didn’t really seem to me to match the (admittedly subjective) title.

I thought he was pretty decent reviewer and wouldn’t avoid his content in the future.
Agreed, I think he's a great reviewer, usually does very in depth tech reviews that are real world as he lives with the tech as he uses it for weeks first. I think his autofocus channel is a great addition as it's a nice cross over from his tech channel to a car channel. The channel is defo no for petrol heads lol, it's more for people who are into tech as well as he doesn't review them as cars, but as pieces of tech.
I think the problem is that whilst *he* treats them as tech, he is seen to be reviewing them as cars.

That doesn’t take away his complete lack of product knowledge. Taking his most recent Fisker Ocean piece as an example:

- he complained the keyfob was broken / buggy, because the car didn’t open as he approached it (this is a design choice to avoid keyless attacks - just press the button)

-he complained that not being able to drive off without a seatbelt was a bug / falling (it’s also a design choice, shared with many cars, and doesn’t prevent driving - just requires manually disengaging the ebrake)

- he complained about the screen taking a while to boot, but hadn’t learned enough (in multiple weeks of driving) to know that sleep time is a setting (up to you if you want to consume battery keeping the system in standby)

I’m not saying those aren’t design choices that need to be discussed, as users might not like them. But to portray them as bugs / system failings not yet “fixed” is very very poor, as it paints a picture of a car not yet finished as opposed to one behaving as intended.

Likewise as regards OTA updates, almost nobody cannot receive them. In a few cases there’s an issue requiring a technician, but most customers have already received v2.0 OTA from what I gather.

By virtue of his profile, and natural credibility, he wields enormous power. He doesn’t pretend to be a Clarkson-style caricature. If he’s going to review cars, I do think he ought to take the requisite time to find out what he’s talking about. This idea that all tech should be “intuitive” is absurd - much of what he uses in the tech arena is only “intuitive” to him because of his many years working in the field.

Based on all of these “failings” he declares the car is still the worst he’s reviewed. That’s hardly the sort or objective assessment viewers think he’s providing. I have no trouble with him saying “this is how it works; I don’t personally like it, but you might feel differently.”

And, yes, I’d hate to see Fisker fail with what looks like a very credible product because of reviews like these. Reputations are lost in an instant in the modern world.

Doofus

26,118 posts

174 months

Thursday 4th April
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skwdenyer said:
And, yes, I’d hate to see Fisker fail with what looks like a very credible product because of reviews like these. Reputations are lost in an instant in the modern world.
Fisker has failed, more than once, in the past without such 'assistance'.

WelshGTI

82 posts

82 months

Thursday 4th April
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skwdenyer said:
I think the problem is that whilst *he* treats them as tech, he is seen to be reviewing them as cars.

That doesn’t take away his complete lack of product knowledge. Taking his most recent Fisker Ocean piece as an example:

- he complained the keyfob was broken / buggy, because the car didn’t open as he approached it (this is a design choice to avoid keyless attacks - just press the button)

-he complained that not being able to drive off without a seatbelt was a bug / falling (it’s also a design choice, shared with many cars, and doesn’t prevent driving - just requires manually disengaging the ebrake)

- he complained about the screen taking a while to boot, but hadn’t learned enough (in multiple weeks of driving) to know that sleep time is a setting (up to you if you want to consume battery keeping the system in standby)

I’m not saying those aren’t design choices that need to be discussed, as users might not like them. But to portray them as bugs / system failings not yet “fixed” is very very poor, as it paints a picture of a car not yet finished as opposed to one behaving as intended.

Likewise as regards OTA updates, almost nobody cannot receive them. In a few cases there’s an issue requiring a technician, but most customers have already received v2.0 OTA from what I gather.

By virtue of his profile, and natural credibility, he wields enormous power. He doesn’t pretend to be a Clarkson-style caricature. If he’s going to review cars, I do think he ought to take the requisite time to find out what he’s talking about. This idea that all tech should be “intuitive” is absurd - much of what he uses in the tech arena is only “intuitive” to him because of his many years working in the field.

Based on all of these “failings” he declares the car is still the worst he’s reviewed. That’s hardly the sort or objective assessment viewers think he’s providing. I have no trouble with him saying “this is how it works; I don’t personally like it, but you might feel differently.”

And, yes, I’d hate to see Fisker fail with what looks like a very credible product because of reviews like these. Reputations are lost in an instant in the modern world.
Fisker failed by itself, has in the past and looks like it will again. While MKBHD carries some clout on YouTube he isn’t and can’t ever be responsible for ruining Fisker.

I don’t see him as reviewing it as car, none of his videos are like that, he treats them as tech, that’s his audience. He’s right to expect tech to be intuitive, it should be, not sure why you think that’s absurd? Tech isn’t more intuitive to him because of what he does, tech is just more understandable. I’d live for tech to be more intuitive and then maybe my 80 year old mother would get on with it better.

sandman77

2,436 posts

139 months

Thursday 4th April
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Ratarossa is back after a while with no new uploads. Unfortunately he is starting yet another project rather than finishing one of his many existing projects.
He has also been teasing us about an upcoming F40 project but still no sign of that.

Rusty Old-Banger

4,090 posts

214 months

Friday 5th April
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sandman77 said:
Ratarossa is back after a while with no new uploads. Unfortunately he is starting yet another project rather than finishing one of his many existing projects.
He has also been teasing us about an upcoming F40 project but still no sign of that.
Isn't he ALWAYS teasing about a new F40 project?

Duffman83

180 posts

165 months

Friday 5th April
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614-HSO said:
Look at this!



I think Manny's head will explode when his arrives.
When are you gonna stop simping for Manky Trashbin, he's a known fraudster, has been exposed numerous times on BallerBusters and also killed his passenger when drunk driving

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-03-26...

He is not a character to be celebrated

WPA

8,981 posts

115 months

Friday 5th April
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sandman77 said:
Ratarossa is back after a while with no new uploads. Unfortunately he is starting yet another project rather than finishing one of his many existing projects.
He has also been teasing us about an upcoming F40 project but still no sign of that.
Gave up with his channel a while ago, been teasing about the F40 replica for a long time now.

Jobbo

12,981 posts

265 months

Friday 5th April
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sandman77 said:
Ratarossa is back after a while with no new uploads. Unfortunately he is starting yet another project rather than finishing one of his many existing projects.
He has also been teasing us about an upcoming F40 project but still no sign of that.
I have been looking forward to seeing the BBi rebuilt but I am wondering if he's done a bit of an Alan Partridge/Corby trouser press with it. He's taken it very much apart and putting it back together looks a bit challenging.

Dave200

4,080 posts

221 months

Friday 5th April
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Jobbo said:
I have been looking forward to seeing the BBi rebuilt but I am wondering if he's done a bit of an Alan Partridge/Corby trouser press with it. He's taken it very much apart and putting it back together looks a bit challenging.
Blimey. I remember watching the first of those BBi videos during a lockdown. I found the content a bit boring so unsubscribed a while back. Crazy to think that he's still nowhere near finishing 3+ years later! Longest youtube build ever?

Voldemort

6,216 posts

279 months

Friday 5th April
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Dave200 said:
Longest youtube build ever?
Have you heard of Binky?

InformationSuperHighway

6,102 posts

185 months

Friday 5th April
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Dave200 said:
Jobbo said:
I have been looking forward to seeing the BBi rebuilt but I am wondering if he's done a bit of an Alan Partridge/Corby trouser press with it. He's taken it very much apart and putting it back together looks a bit challenging.
Blimey. I remember watching the first of those BBi videos during a lockdown. I found the content a bit boring so unsubscribed a while back. Crazy to think that he's still nowhere near finishing 3+ years later! Longest youtube build ever?
He needs to study Mat A on his video style. He has all the ingredients to make his channel huge, but he his edits are just so boring.

Considering he is full time (Still? I don't know) he should be doing better.

I'd hate to see him go the way of SoL, but his channel is heading to zombie status at the moment.

Dave200

4,080 posts

221 months

Friday 5th April
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InformationSuperHighway said:
Dave200 said:
Jobbo said:
I have been looking forward to seeing the BBi rebuilt but I am wondering if he's done a bit of an Alan Partridge/Corby trouser press with it. He's taken it very much apart and putting it back together looks a bit challenging.
Blimey. I remember watching the first of those BBi videos during a lockdown. I found the content a bit boring so unsubscribed a while back. Crazy to think that he's still nowhere near finishing 3+ years later! Longest youtube build ever?
He needs to study Mat A on his video style. He has all the ingredients to make his channel huge, but he his edits are just so boring.

Considering he is full time (Still? I don't know) he should be doing better.

I'd hate to see him go the way of SoL, but his channel is heading to zombie status at the moment.
His videos are incredibly dry. I don't find him personally particularly interesting or charismatic at all. I found that I was watching for the cars and even they weren't progressing at a rate that kept my interest up. Judging by the viewing numbers on his last few videos I'm not alone.

Dave200

4,080 posts

221 months

Friday 5th April
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Voldemort said:
Dave200 said:
Longest youtube build ever?
Have you heard of Binky?
How could I forget. Those guys get a pass for being interesting and charismatic and actually having day jobs that keep them busy.

SydneyBridge

8,693 posts

159 months

Friday 5th April
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InformationSuperHighway said:
He needs to study Mat A on his video style. He has all the ingredients to make his channel huge, but he his edits are just so boring.

Considering he is full time (Still? I don't know) he should be doing better.

I'd hate to see him go the way of SoL, but his channel is heading to zombie status at the moment.
Completely agree, so much potential, don't know how he survives from just YT. He must have other sources of income

skwdenyer

16,697 posts

241 months

Friday 5th April
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WelshGTI said:
I don’t see him as reviewing it as car, none of his videos are like that, he treats them as tech, that’s his audience. He’s right to expect tech to be intuitive, it should be, not sure why you think that’s absurd? Tech isn’t more intuitive to him because of what he does, tech is just more understandable. I’d live for tech to be more intuitive and then maybe my 80 year old mother would get on with it better.
The issue to me is he isn’t reviewing the tech: he’s staying things are “broken” when they’re not, he just hasn’t understood the design choices which he should be explaining to his audience.

Pommy

14,280 posts

217 months

Saturday 6th April
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Jobbo said:
sandman77 said:
Ratarossa is back after a while with no new uploads. Unfortunately he is starting yet another project rather than finishing one of his many existing projects.
He has also been teasing us about an upcoming F40 project but still no sign of that.
I have been looking forward to seeing the BBi rebuilt but I am wondering if he's done a bit of an Alan Partridge/Corby trouser press with it. He's taken it very much apart and putting it back together looks a bit challenging.
I recall seeing him disassemble the BB thinking 'surely he's going to label and sort all the parts as he takes them off and stores them' and realising he's just chucking assorted bolts and nuts together.

I like him and wish him well but bloody hell he's fked that one up.

Jobbo

12,981 posts

265 months

Saturday 6th April
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It’s the BBi rather than Ratarossa himself that I watch for - I saw it sitting unused on the driveway in Gloucester for years so it was a bit of a coup to buy it. Got to see the final result.

jayemm89

4,050 posts

131 months

Saturday 6th April
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Several of the things you mention lots of other cars do, and might even be legislated

tim0409

4,489 posts

160 months

Saturday 6th April
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I gave up on Ratarossa a while back when he started pushing nonsense products from Temu (or its equivalent), combined with the fact that whilst the BBi rebuild is an interesting subject, I found his videos fixing parts on his kitchen table overly long and boring.