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robemcdonald said:
There were a couple of goosebump moments (I cant remember the last time that happened watching a movie)
It wasn't without its problems though. The most obvious was the story elements recycled from previous instalments. The main issue was that it didn't feel like a stand alone movie and left too many unanswered questions. It could fairly be argued that these answers are for the sequels though.
I agree with this - but for me the recycled elements were too many and felt like lazy film making. In addition to the goosebumps though I found myself cringing too many times for my liking - I think I'm too old for this!!It wasn't without its problems though. The most obvious was the story elements recycled from previous instalments. The main issue was that it didn't feel like a stand alone movie and left too many unanswered questions. It could fairly be argued that these answers are for the sequels though.
Overall 6.5/10 from me.
robemcdonald said:
It wasn't without its problems though. The most obvious was the story elements recycled from previous instalments. The main issue was that it didn't feel like a stand alone movie and left too many unanswered questions. It could fairly be argued that these answers are for the sequels though.
SkySailing said:
robemcdonald said:
It wasn't without its problems though. The most obvious was the story elements recycled from previous instalments. The main issue was that it didn't feel like a stand alone movie and left too many unanswered questions. It could fairly be argued that these answers are for the sequels though.
gtidriver said:
Has anyone released any figures yet concerning if any records have been broken yet??? I'm thinking highest grossing film.
Too early for much in the way of hard numbers, but so far confirmed...- US/Canada opening night record ($57m)
- UK opening day record (£9.64m)
- UK advance ticket record (2m)
- Biggest opening in a whole bunch of other countries
Unlikely to break the biggest UK weekend record though, Spectre opened on a Monday so had nearly a full week to add to that total.
robemcdonald said:
SkySailing said:
robemcdonald said:
It wasn't without its problems though. The most obvious was the story elements recycled from previous instalments. The main issue was that it didn't feel like a stand alone movie and left too many unanswered questions. It could fairly be argued that these answers are for the sequels though.
p1stonhead said:
Not really though. Vader got flung off into space at the end of 4 instead of clearly dying etc. And at the end of 5 Han was frozen and they had to go rescue him which didn't happen until 6.
Star Wars is a complete film, Vader is just a henchman that survives, that happens in films, the big baddie and his weapon is destroyed and the whole story arc is complete.There's a better argument for Empire, which was written to be a second act, but even then that act closes on the events and there is a feeling of closure with Vader, and Lando setting off on a new quest.
THe new one's prime directive is find Luke, which is done at the end of the film and then...fade to black, no closure! It's left hanging!
The baddies also all say, 'let's meet up' but there is no rounding up of that story, because it would reveal too much I guess. Halb said:
p1stonhead said:
Not really though. Vader got flung off into space at the end of 4 instead of clearly dying etc. And at the end of 5 Han was frozen and they had to go rescue him which didn't happen until 6.
Star Wars is a complete film, Vader is just a henchman that survives, that happens in films, the big baddie and his weapon is destroyed and the whole story arc is complete.There's a better argument for Empire, which was written to be a second act, but even then that act closes on the events and there is a feeling of closure with Vader, and Lando setting off on a new quest.
THe new one's prime directive is find Luke, which is done at the end of the film and then...fade to black, no closure! It's left hanging!
The baddies also all say, 'let's meet up' but there is no rounding up of that story, because it would reveal too much I guess. They are all parts of a trilogy and shouldn't be looked at as anything else IMO. I wasn't at all surprised 7 ended without 'closure'.
Edited by p1stonhead on Saturday 19th December 11:13
p1stonhead said:
But 4 was done like that so that it would be the first in a trilogy. Those funding the project wanted Vader to die to have it as a standalone film but Lucas insisted he lived to leave it open for the sequel he wanted to make if the film was successful. He ultimately got his way.
They are all parts of a trilogy and shouldn't be looked at as anything else IMO. I wasn't at all surprised 7 ended without 'closure'.
Star Wars was made as a stand alone film, Lucas had ideas, but no idea if it would lead to anything, so that's why it works on it's own. Having ideas and intent/money/power etc are different. The only time Lucas knew that the second would be made was when the receipts started coming in. Before then, the film was expected to bomb, as a nasty sci-fi mess. Deaths change all the time, Ben's death flip-flopped, Han's etc.They are all parts of a trilogy and shouldn't be looked at as anything else IMO. I wasn't at all surprised 7 ended without 'closure'.
That's why Star Wars has the final moments of full closure, everyone celebrating the big win.
The point is, that SW works on it's own. The new one doesn't, not that I am griping about that.
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