Prometheus - Ridley Scott's 'Alien Prequel' (or not)...

Prometheus - Ridley Scott's 'Alien Prequel' (or not)...

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vxr8mate

1,655 posts

191 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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After watching this film twice I still have one thing bugging me.

As the two guys that get lost happened upon all the dead bodies piled up against the doors 'with their chest burst open' etc(just before they enter the room with the black goo)why does nobody find any evidence of aliens, face huggers etc?

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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It makes you wonder who they are choosing for focus groups. Morons?

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

200 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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vxr8mate said:
After watching this film twice I still have one thing bugging me.

As the two guys that get lost happened upon all the dead bodies piled up against the doors 'with their chest burst open' etc(just before they enter the room with the black goo)why does nobody find any evidence of aliens, face huggers etc?
Only one thing bugging you. Did you sleep through the rest and just wake up for that bit? biggrin

SWoll

18,693 posts

260 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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garyhun said:
It makes you wonder who they are choosing for focus groups. Morons?
I would suggest that in this case any attempt to make the film shorter was a good decision. Just a shame they couldn't have lopped off another 1.5 hrs...

smile


vxr8mate

1,655 posts

191 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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rhinochopig said:
Only one thing bugging you. Did you sleep through the rest and just wake up for that bit? biggrin
If you read the thread it covers much of the questions and answers. I know there are holes but no film is entirely devoid of plot holes.
Couldn't find any questions or answers to the stacked bodies and why.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

200 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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vxr8mate said:
rhinochopig said:
Only one thing bugging you. Did you sleep through the rest and just wake up for that bit? biggrin
If you read the thread it covers much of the questions and answers. I know there are holes but no film is entirely devoid of plot holes.
Couldn't find any questions or answers to the stacked bodies and why.
I was joking. The answer to your question is Damon Lindelof. It needs no other explanation. I'm only surprised there wasn't a fecking Polar Bear running around.

It's a good question though; one I don't think has been asked yet. I'll add it to my growing list of reasons to be disappointed by the film.

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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vxr8mate said:
If you read the thread it covers much of the questions and answers. I know there are holes but no film is entirely devoid of plot holes.
Couldn't find any questions or answers to the stacked bodies and why.
They postulated in the film (or was it on here, all getting confusing now) that there may have been a war of factions within the engineer community. So possibly running away from another faction that then blasted them all to death but one had an alien which erupted.]

Or maybe they were all prevented from opening the door by other engineers because the other engineers feared the ones stacked up were all infected. Maybe just one was (the one with the erupted stomach) but they could not take a chance the others were not?

Basically, take a guess smile

Aphex

2,160 posts

202 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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vxr8mate said:
After watching this film twice I still have one thing bugging me.

As the two guys that get lost happened upon all the dead bodies piled up against the doors 'with their chest burst open' etc(just before they enter the room with the black goo)why does nobody find any evidence of aliens, face huggers etc?
Put quite simply, they weren't needed to be found. The chest bursting was enough to show you what had happened. There was no need to find actual aliens/facehuggers after 2000 years imo. The aliens weren't the threat, the goo is the main focus.

Also the large mural of the alien shows that the engineers either idolised them/ engineered them/ feared them, maybe all of those options.

i'd be interested in findong more out about that green crystal at the shrine looking platform

callyman

3,154 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Aphex said:
i'd be interested in finding more out about that green crystal at the shrine looking platform
That was in case Superman turned up.

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Aphex said:
i'd be interested in findong more out about that green crystal at the shrine looking platform
Yep - that was a one-off scene never to be mentioned again.

TEKNOPUG

19,048 posts

207 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Aphex said:
The holographic recording was a great cinematic device. It allowed the story to progress and let the viewer know what happened.
I still say it's incredibly lazy script writing.

Aphex

2,160 posts

202 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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TEKNOPUG said:
I still say it's incredibly lazy script writing.
Fair enough thumbup

What I haven't seen mentioned here is that when they first go into the mural (I'm sure I'm spelling this word wrong) room, fifield and the other guy up and leave. They get lost when the atmosphere change seems to create a silicone storm.

Now, later on in the film when noomis infected other half falls ill in the same room, they walk him out the same door and effectively straight out into the open and back to the ship.

I'm going to watch it again tonight to double check that


Aphex

2,160 posts

202 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Bedazzled said:
Personally if I saw what was on that mural I'd be bl**dy terrified.
Especially if it started to change.

Well I'm full of high hopes for the second installment. I hope that guy p plays a younger weyland role as per the virals and am looking forward to some more engineer action.

Guvernator

13,204 posts

167 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Bedazzled said:
I found that bit of the plot quite irritating; the crystal and the HR Giger style murals put husband-bloke (name escapes me) into a depression because he thought it was "just another tomb and they were all dead" even though they'd only been there a few hours and already discovered incredible evidence of advanced alien life. Personally if I saw what was on that mural I'd be bl**dy terrified.
Yep, travel half way across the galaxy and within 5 minutes of getting their, decide that it's all been a wasted trip , start crying like a baby and drink yourself into a stupor. All this despite massive evidence to the contrary and them making some pretty amazing discoveries.

Not sure but if I ever managed to find an alien spaceship filled with alien tech, aliens in stasis and lots of pods filled with some sort of goo that does god knows what, I think I'd be pretty psyched. Yet another example of an illogical and ill thought out character whose motivations and though processes make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

SWoll

18,693 posts

260 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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yes

Aphex

2,160 posts

202 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Guvernator said:
Yep, travel half way across the galaxy and within 5 minutes of getting their, decide that it's all been a wasted trip , start crying like a baby and drink yourself into a stupor. All this despite massive evidence to the contrary and them making some pretty amazing discoveries.

Not sure but if I ever managed to find an alien spaceship filled with alien tech, aliens in stasis and lots of pods filled with some sort of goo that does god knows what, I think I'd be pretty psyched. Yet another example of an illogical and ill thought out character whose motivations and though processes make absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Well to be fair, they went there with the intention of meeting their makers. a 2 year hypersleep, probably their entire professional lives working towards a single point. Sure, theres evidence they were there but you'd probably be pretty bummed to find out that everything you were hoping for was dead and gone. They want to know why they were created and he thought that it was a question that could now never be answered.

I think his character was always geared towards being the petulant child, taking his helmet off etc.

Guvernator

13,204 posts

167 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Aphex said:
Well to be fair, they went there with the intention of meeting their makers. a 2 year hypersleep, probably their entire professional lives working towards a single point. Sure, theres evidence they were there but you'd probably be pretty bummed to find out that everything you were hoping for was dead and gone. They want to know why they were created and he thought that it was a question that could now never be answered.

I think his character was always geared towards being the petulant child, taking his helmet off etc.
OK they didn't immediately get to say hello to their creators but they'd only been there five minutes. For him to write off the whole expedition immediately just doesn't make sense, especially as they find lots of very interesting clues and about 20 minutes later they find the actual Engineers. Just seemed highly irrational behavior for a professional scientist but then none of the crew where the shining beacon of human intelligence, in fact I don't think I've ever seen a more inept and stupid bunch of such scientists.

ZesPak

24,450 posts

198 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Guvernator said:
in fact I don't think I've ever seen a more inept and stupid bunch of such scientists.
On the whole, this was one of my biggest gripes.

In "Armageddon", at least they try and make an explanation (however contrived) of why they sent a crew of hillbillies up there, where the only one with an IQ above 90 is actually a nutjob.

In this movie they don't explain why a trillion dollar science mission is manned by some of the most stupid people on the planet. I mean, is there something in the air that makes them de-evolve into pre-primate thinking processes?
Oh can't be, as a stupid animal would have ran when he saw a white alian vag snake.

Aphex

2,160 posts

202 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Guvernator said:
OK they didn't immediately get to say hello to their creators but they'd only been there five minutes. For him to write off the whole expedition immediately just doesn't make sense, especially as they find lots of very interesting clues and about 20 minutes later they find the actual Engineers. Just seemed highly irrational behavior for a professional scientist but then none of the crew where the shining beacon of human intelligence, in fact I don't think I've ever seen a more inept and stupid bunch of such scientists.
I agree but it was needed for the story to progress with david infecting him

Guvernator

13,204 posts

167 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Aphex said:
Guvernator said:
OK they didn't immediately get to say hello to their creators but they'd only been there five minutes. For him to write off the whole expedition immediately just doesn't make sense, especially as they find lots of very interesting clues and about 20 minutes later they find the actual Engineers. Just seemed highly irrational behavior for a professional scientist but then none of the crew where the shining beacon of human intelligence, in fact I don't think I've ever seen a more inept and stupid bunch of such scientists.
I agree but it was needed for the story to progress with david infecting him
Yep it's called Deus Ex Machina, most films have some it in some form another. Unusual coincidences or illogical decisions which are purely there help to move the plot along.

Good movies will often do a very good job of not making them so blatantly obvious\in your face, however in this it was so obvious that it takes you out of the film. A film, especially science fiction is about suspension of belief, the story, characters or script have to be good and leave you so engrossed that you don't get time to think "oh that would never happen" but this film had so many jarring moments I kept "waking up".

I compared Prometheus to AvP earlier on as that had the same problem, illogical characters\decisions that are so stupid that they stretch the boundaries of what your brain is willing to except, even in a movie. They just make you think "oh f*ck off, like that would REALLY HAPPEN!!"