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HorneyMX5 said:
Fair enough, I also rememberd that JJ has talked about minimal CGI to get back tothe feel of the original trilogy so that would tie up with lots more puppetry and small people in costumes.
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k.Green screen helped to smother all reality and emotion in the s
t ones. It would have required serious acting chops to combat that. And apart from Emperor and Neeson, it wasn't there.
central said:
It's going to be st/great. (delete as per preference)
I think that, whatever Disney do with the franchise, it'll be better written and better directed than the prequels. I can't see JJ Abrams doing lots of lazy two camera act-react shots of boring stilted dialog about trade embargos.
However, I do expect lots of lens flare, running around, and volume turned up to 11 action at the expense of a decent story.
Maybe it'll work and maybe it won't. I honestly think that Disney is incapable of making it any worse than the prequels though. However, it might not be Star Wars as we know it.
However, I do expect lots of lens flare, running around, and volume turned up to 11 action at the expense of a decent story.
Maybe it'll work and maybe it won't. I honestly think that Disney is incapable of making it any worse than the prequels though. However, it might not be Star Wars as we know it.
JonRB said:
I think that, whatever Disney do with the franchise, it'll be better written and better directed than the prequels. I can't see JJ Abrams doing lots of lazy two camera act-react shots of boring stilted dialog about trade embargos.
However, I do expect lots of lens flare, running around, and volume turned up to 11 action at the expense of a decent story.
Maybe it'll work and maybe it won't. I honestly think that Disney is incapable of making it any worse than the prequels though. However, it might not be Star Wars as we know it.
That is pretty much spot on how I feel about it. I enjoyed the Star Trek movies that Abrahms did but I am not a Star Trek fan. I think the Star Wars films will be good films, Im not sure they will feel like Star Wars though. To be honest though I am not sure that anything can. I grew up watching Star Wars, how can you recapture that as an adult? However, I do expect lots of lens flare, running around, and volume turned up to 11 action at the expense of a decent story.
Maybe it'll work and maybe it won't. I honestly think that Disney is incapable of making it any worse than the prequels though. However, it might not be Star Wars as we know it.
richtea78 said:
That is pretty much spot on how I feel about it. I enjoyed the Star Trek movies that Abrahms did but I am not a Star Trek fan. I think the Star Wars films will be good films, Im not sure they will feel like Star Wars though. To be honest though I am not sure that anything can. I grew up watching Star Wars, how can you recapture that as an adult?
Big Star Trek fan here, and basically imho the Abrahams movies were a big FU to Trek fans. But, if you look at them separate from the "source material", they're okay SF movies for this day and age.
ZesPak said:
Big Star Trek fan here, and basically imho the Abrahams movies were a big FU to Trek fans. But, if you look at them separate from the "source material", they're okay SF movies for this day and age.
In fairness, Star Trek was groaning under the weight of its own canon and didn't really have many more places to go. Rebooting the whole franchise with a parallel universe / alternate reality was quite clever, I thought. It gave them a chance to start over, but with the option for things to develop the same way if they wished. I think the new films will do similar, inasmuch as they are going to make the Expanded Universe non-canon. They'd better not mess with it too badly though - I expect Han and Leia to be married. Anything else would be just wrong.
I read the early SWU books, the Thrawn trilogy, which was pushed as 'what happened next' thing, but then they went mental, and I stopped reading when the quality of the books plummeted...and with the cartoons and the comics as well...
They took a great idea and again...rubbished it.
Now there is all this 'stuff' out there...I don't know much about it save for a few afternoons lost on wiki, but for them to rubbish it too much would again separate any involvement fans might have with being involved with a story. Not just for SW, but for any large franchise. Either respect the fans or frack orf.
They took a great idea and again...rubbished it.
Now there is all this 'stuff' out there...I don't know much about it save for a few afternoons lost on wiki, but for them to rubbish it too much would again separate any involvement fans might have with being involved with a story. Not just for SW, but for any large franchise. Either respect the fans or frack orf.
Halb said:
I read the early SWU books, the Thrawn trilogy, which was pushed as 'what happened next' thing, but then they went mental, and I stopped reading when the quality of the books plummeted...and with the cartoons and the comics as well...
They took a great idea and again...rubbished it.
Now there is all this 'stuff' out there...I don't know much about it save for a few afternoons lost on wiki, but for them to rubbish it too much would again separate any involvement fans might have with being involved with a story. Not just for SW, but for any large franchise. Either respect the fans or frack orf.
The thing about the Expanded Universe, is that in order to get permission from LucusFilm / LucusArts to publish it, it had to adhere to the existing works. This made it remarkably cohesive. It even applied to the video ghames too (eg. Dark Forces). However, I totally agree with you that the quality of the books tailed off and I lost interest round about the time they did the books on Han Solo's back story and paired him up with a sidekick almost identical to Chewbacca but not a Wookiee. I found that rather sloppy, tbh. They took a great idea and again...rubbished it.
Now there is all this 'stuff' out there...I don't know much about it save for a few afternoons lost on wiki, but for them to rubbish it too much would again separate any involvement fans might have with being involved with a story. Not just for SW, but for any large franchise. Either respect the fans or frack orf.
The Thrawn books were bloody brilliant though.
As for the comics (or 'graphic novels'), I read "Dark Empire" where Luke temporarily turns to the Dark Side, and it was very good indeed. I never got round to reading any more of these though - it's the only one I have.
Edited by JonRB on Wednesday 19th March 16:47
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