Dragon's Den

[kev1974]

I've actually got one of those watering cans, someone bought it for me for Christmas the one before last. Never used it, more of a novelty.

Looked on their website (www.colapz.com), they have (or will have) 5 products which all boil down to basically the same thing.

How on earth they have managed to owe some other dude quite so much money for basically one idea, I have no clue. Mind boggling.

[Laurel Green]

The girl with the dark hair has different coloured eyes.

[TheAngryDog]

How hipster was the guy on The last pitch?

[BlackLabel]

So Kelly, Piers and Duncan leave at the end of the series and Michelle Mone is one of the replacements. Wonder who else we'll see.

[rubystone]

DSLiverpool said:

Camping on someone else's site and figures without rhyme or reason means I doubt it will get past due dil

He didn't get the investment. No official word why, but one supplier claims that he ordered from them then didn't pay. Claims he wasn't the only supplier treated in that way too.

[CAPP0]

Laurel Green said:

The girl with the dark hair has different coloured eyes.

Bowie's secret lovechild.

[Laurel Green]

CAPP0 said:

Bowie's secret lovechild.

[Jasandjules]

I am no doubt being thick but I am neither a plumber nor sailor. So how the f**k will that little thing inflate in a pipe to stop water coming in? Because the pipe doesn't have a handy hole in the bottom for it to expand out and fill the gap sealing the pipe! What am I missing?

[DSLiverpool]

It pushes through like an umbrella and water pressure keeps it tight

[eastlmark]

Jasandjules said:

I am no doubt being thick but I am neither a plumber nor sailor. So how the f**k will that little thing inflate in a pipe to stop water coming in? Because the pipe doesn't have a handy hole in the bottom for it to expand out and fill the gap sealing the pipe! What am I missing?

I didn't really get it either but know nothing about sea cocks but I guess the mushroom bit on the end doesn't expand but sits flush against the outlet bit thingy making it seal and kept there by the water pressure. Are these holes in the hull all below sea/river level then? and how do you stem the flow of water rushing in while taking off the pipework to poke the red thing down it? I think some kind of small water tank demonstration would have made it easier to understand but it seems most of the dragons either got it (with one exception) or most likely didn't care.

[Jasandjules]

DSLiverpool said:

It pushes through like an umbrella and water pressure keeps it tight

Yes but how does it expand? If the pipe was cut it can then expand and fill the gap (around the edge of the pipe) BUT inside a normal tube there is nowhere for it to expand into nor any way for it to seal?

[Laurel Green]

Jasandjules said:

Yes but how does it expand? If the pipe was cut it can then expand and fill the gap (around the edge of the pipe) BUT inside a normal tube there is nowhere for it to expand into nor any way for it to seal?

The flange to the right of the cock will be the hull. Disconnect the pipework from the cock, open the cock and push the 'new invention' through the cock - water pressure will then seal against the hull and the cock can then be removed for replacement.

[DSLiverpool]

Jasandjules said:

DSLiverpool said:

It pushes through like an umbrella and water pressure keeps it tight

Yes but how does it expand? If the pipe was cut it can then expand and fill the gap (around the edge of the pipe) BUT inside a normal tube there is nowhere for it to expand into nor any way for it to seal?

Push an umbrella through a hole in the wall, open umbrella, pull on handle or apply water pressure - that's it no expanding

[hornetrider]

BlackLabel said:

So Kelly, Piers and Duncan leave at the end of the series and Michelle Mone is one of the replacements. Wonder who else we'll see.

Shame to see Duncan leave, but the other pair aren't really interesting enough to make good telly.

[nicanary]

hornetrider said:

BlackLabel said:

So Kelly, Piers and Duncan leave at the end of the series and Michelle Mone is one of the replacements. Wonder who else we'll see.

Shame to see Duncan leave, but the other pair aren't really interesting enough to make good telly.

I'm pleased that Deborah Meaden is staying - the look on her face when she found out those 2 chancers didn't own the IP on the collapsible buckets was worth the price of the TV licence. A wonderful mixture of surprise, disgust and contempt. You could almost hear her thinking "oh FFS".

[Yazar]

DSLiverpool said:

iva cosworth said:

I'm not surprised the food bloke got an investment,as all the Dragons agreed,a very slick and together

pitch and self assured man.

Camping on someone else's site and figures without rhyme or reason means I doubt it will get past due dil

Wasn't keen neither, dull idea of sending a box of crap out.

As one of the dragons themselves said "its like you have read the manual on tech startups" Was akin to a MBA grad talking business bull i.e. he fitted the profile

Didn't he say that he raised £200k only 2 months ago- burning through a lot of cash. But OH said that at her work many of the girls were addicted to the Graze boxes. So never know may tick along.

Also was it me, of was the Piers going halves with Peter a bit arkward? looked like Peter only said yes as to not cause negative headlines as Piers doesn't seem too popular.

Edited by Yazar on Monday 23 February 10:50

[Yazar]

DSLiverpool said:

Jasandjules said:

DSLiverpool said:

It pushes through like an umbrella and water pressure keeps it tight

Yes but how does it expand? If the pipe was cut it can then expand and fill the gap (around the edge of the pipe) BUT inside a normal tube there is nowhere for it to expand into nor any way for it to seal?

Push an umbrella through a hole in the wall, open umbrella, pull on handle or apply water pressure - that's it no expanding

Had a quick google as Dragons den will have been filmed months ago and they will have applied for approval months prior to that, and seems still not approved as a safety product.

[Antony Moxey]

DSLiverpool said:

Jasandjules said:

DSLiverpool said:

It pushes through like an umbrella and water pressure keeps it tight

Yes but how does it expand? If the pipe was cut it can then expand and fill the gap (around the edge of the pipe) BUT inside a normal tube there is nowhere for it to expand into nor any way for it to seal?

Push an umbrella through a hole in the wall, open umbrella, pull on handle or apply water pressure - that's it no expanding

That's the bit I didn't get - what's stopping water pissing in while you're pushing your umbrella down the hole? And then what stops it pissing through again once you've finished and pull the umbrella back through?

[hornetrider]

Antony Moxey said:

hat's the bit I didn't get - what's stopping water pissing in while you're pushing your umbrella down the hole? And then what stops it pissing through again once you've finished and pull the umbrella back through?

Nothing. But that's what the valve is there for in the first place, and the amount will be minimal.

[deeen]

hornetrider said:

Antony Moxey said:

hat's the bit I didn't get - what's stopping water pissing in while you're pushing your umbrella down the hole? And then what stops it pissing through again once you've finished and pull the umbrella back through?

Nothing. But that's what the valve is there for in the first place, and the amount will be minimal.

This. Bit of salt water keeps the bilges sweet!

One of those "so simple it's brilliant" ideas! I would have asked if they had experimented with larger/stronger versions, and why they had not conducted any sea trials yet? But it was the only thing on last night's show that would have got my money (if I had any)!