True Detective
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Felt frustrating how it neatly tied up what happened. But I think I'm meant to feel a fraction of the frustration the characters would be after 35 years, all those ifs and buts rushing through their minds.
Expected the dementia to pop up again in the very end and felt appropriate. Roland may never know.
Expected the dementia to pop up again in the very end and felt appropriate. Roland may never know.
The ending may have been a lil too pat, if it hadn't been delivered post- the false ending. Christ I was happy it didn't end on the first one, that felt like a real case, just miserable, I checked the timer and it said 36 more minutes, which was good. And then obviously they bump into the gardener which prompted rapid brain function then.
Felt good, a lot of possibles that were just nothings, like life. A solid second place I think.
I'd like to think he tells his partner
Felt good, a lot of possibles that were just nothings, like life. A solid second place I think.
I'd like to think he tells his partner
Halb said:
Watched E1&2, it's interesting enough to stick with...didn't recognise Dourf!
Three timelines trumps S1! I too have a horrible feeling his dementia will affect something in the third timeline, for a second I thought the presenter was the girl, but she was too young. Maybe he sees her and forgets, or nobody believes him at the end, like Cassandra
Three timelines trumps S1! I too have a horrible feeling his dementia will affect something in the third timeline, for a second I thought the presenter was the girl, but she was too young. Maybe he sees her and forgets, or nobody believes him at the end, like Cassandra
Smollet said:
Whodunnit?
Was it really a whodunnit... more a wathappnd? The main missing girl was found and has a relatively nice life now. Her brother died by sheer accident. It's strange but probably deliberate that we never really encounter the real monster... Hoyt's daughter! We hear about her but never see her (we do see brief flashback glimpses when one-eye recounts the story). She is the one that led to cause of the boys death, she kidnapped Julie, stored in her in her hideyhole for years and drugged her with Lithium. She is the monster but is merely kept as a metaphor in the background during the whole series.
She's the instigator, or source, not sure about real monster, she was as mixed up as anyone. I think the facilitator, the bent cop, was perhaps more of a monster, and he received his just reward. The one-eyed man was less bad, but he clearly knew he deserved punishment.
THe big daddy figure was out of the loop! though clearly knew something, and he could have sorted it out.
the cops didn't really do their job, the seniors were incompetent or malfeasant, or corrupt. Everyone had a slightly muddy hand here. Save maybe the father, who was a victim as much as his children.
faaacckkk, thank goodness there was a happy ending...
THe big daddy figure was out of the loop! though clearly knew something, and he could have sorted it out.
the cops didn't really do their job, the seniors were incompetent or malfeasant, or corrupt. Everyone had a slightly muddy hand here. Save maybe the father, who was a victim as much as his children.
faaacckkk, thank goodness there was a happy ending...
Yeah, agree with a lot of that. I guess on a slightly different note, the stereotyping of small-town America goes against my grain a little. Whilst some stuff stays in-house in small towns, the characterisation of TD and also Sharp Objects occuring in these sleepy back hole towns, probably only serves to perpetuating myths that these towns are full of backward folk with nothing to do.
[quote=Halb]She's the instigator, or source, not sure about real monster, she was as mixed up as anyone. I think the facilitator, the bent cop, was perhaps more of a monster, and he received his just reward. The one-eyed man was less bad, but he clearly knew he deserved punishment.
THe big daddy figure was out of the loop! though clearly knew something, and he could have sorted it out.
the cops didn't really do their job, the seniors were incompetent or malfeasant, or corrupt. Everyone had a slightly muddy hand here. Save maybe the father, who was a victim as much as his children.
Agree with this
Let’s not forget as well that the bent cop murdered the father and put him in the frame for the murders of his own kids, planted evidence and framed the Indian guy (loved the claymore at the door) and presumably was well paid for his services. Everyone else with the exception of the children’s mother who effectively pimped out her own kids was acting for different motives, Hoyt’s daughter, nuts and needy, Hoyt himself trying to hold onto whatever family he had by almost any means, the one eyed man acting from pure loyalty to Hoyt’s. I loved the cross period storyline and the way that the case stayed with Hays and West for years but even they with some of their methods meant they were not by any means above reproach.
THe big daddy figure was out of the loop! though clearly knew something, and he could have sorted it out.
the cops didn't really do their job, the seniors were incompetent or malfeasant, or corrupt. Everyone had a slightly muddy hand here. Save maybe the father, who was a victim as much as his children.
Agree with this
Let’s not forget as well that the bent cop murdered the father and put him in the frame for the murders of his own kids, planted evidence and framed the Indian guy (loved the claymore at the door) and presumably was well paid for his services. Everyone else with the exception of the children’s mother who effectively pimped out her own kids was acting for different motives, Hoyt’s daughter, nuts and needy, Hoyt himself trying to hold onto whatever family he had by almost any means, the one eyed man acting from pure loyalty to Hoyt’s. I loved the cross period storyline and the way that the case stayed with Hays and West for years but even they with some of their methods meant they were not by any means above reproach.
[quote=Halb]She's the instigator, or source, not sure about real monster, she was as mixed up as anyone. I think the facilitator, the bent cop, was perhaps more of a monster, and he received his just reward. The one-eyed man was less bad, but he clearly knew he deserved punishment.
THe big daddy figure was out of the loop! though clearly knew something, and he could have sorted it out.
the cops didn't really do their job, the seniors were incompetent or malfeasant, or corrupt. Everyone had a slightly muddy hand here. Save maybe the father, who was a victim as much as his children.
Agree with this
Let’s not forget as well that the bent cop murdered the father and put him in the frame for the murders of his own kids, planted evidence and framed the Indian guy (loved the claymore at the door) and presumably was well paid for his services. Everyone else with the exception of the children’s mother who effectively pimped out her own kids was acting for different motives, Hoyt’s daughter, nuts and needy, Hoyt himself trying to hold onto whatever family he had by almost any means, the one eyed man acting from pure loyalty to Hoyt’s. I loved the cross period storyline and the way that the case stayed with Hays and West for years but even they with some of their methods meant they were not by any means above reproach.
THe big daddy figure was out of the loop! though clearly knew something, and he could have sorted it out.
the cops didn't really do their job, the seniors were incompetent or malfeasant, or corrupt. Everyone had a slightly muddy hand here. Save maybe the father, who was a victim as much as his children.
Agree with this
Let’s not forget as well that the bent cop murdered the father and put him in the frame for the murders of his own kids, planted evidence and framed the Indian guy (loved the claymore at the door) and presumably was well paid for his services. Everyone else with the exception of the children’s mother who effectively pimped out her own kids was acting for different motives, Hoyt’s daughter, nuts and needy, Hoyt himself trying to hold onto whatever family he had by almost any means, the one eyed man acting from pure loyalty to Hoyt’s. I loved the cross period storyline and the way that the case stayed with Hays and West for years but even they with some of their methods meant they were not by any means above reproach.
Mack42 said:
Agree with this
Let’s not forget as well that the bent cop murdered the father and put him in the frame for the murders of his own kids, planted evidence and framed the Indian guy (loved the claymore at the door) and presumably was well paid for his services. Everyone else with the exception of the children’s mother who effectively pimped out her own kids was acting for different motives, Hoyt’s daughter, nuts and needy, Hoyt himself trying to hold onto whatever family he had by almost any means, the one eyed man acting from pure loyalty to Hoyt’s. I loved the cross period storyline and the way that the case stayed with Hays and West for years but even they with some of their methods meant they were not by any means above reproach.
Two police executions allow the cases to go unresolved. TD1, the fury killing by Woody on the hillbilly means the green-haired man goes unnoticed for years. And the killing the bent cop in TD3 means they can never get the truth out of him!Let’s not forget as well that the bent cop murdered the father and put him in the frame for the murders of his own kids, planted evidence and framed the Indian guy (loved the claymore at the door) and presumably was well paid for his services. Everyone else with the exception of the children’s mother who effectively pimped out her own kids was acting for different motives, Hoyt’s daughter, nuts and needy, Hoyt himself trying to hold onto whatever family he had by almost any means, the one eyed man acting from pure loyalty to Hoyt’s. I loved the cross period storyline and the way that the case stayed with Hays and West for years but even they with some of their methods meant they were not by any means above reproach.
reminds me of this.
'Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.'
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