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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Ayahuasca said:
What is the point of flying machines with dragonfly style flapping wings?
Because it's true to the book, you dolt! 
Rumblestripe said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Ayahuasca said:
What is the point of flying machines with dragonfly style flapping wings?
Because it's true to the book, you dolt! My main problem with the film was its slowness....
Ayahuasca said:
So, in the book, what is the point of dragonfly wings, you ass?
Does it matter? It is as much part of the lore as Guild Heighliners, sand crawlers, suspensors, personal shields, and Stillsuits. It's part of the tech of Dune. To *not* have ornithopters would make it a less faithful adaptation.
Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Tuesday 28th September 12:04
Ayahuasca said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Ayahuasca said:
What is the point of flying machines with dragonfly style flapping wings?
Because it's true to the book, you dolt! Ayahuasca said:
Rumblestripe said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Ayahuasca said:
What is the point of flying machines with dragonfly style flapping wings?
Because it's true to the book, you dolt! My main problem with the film was its slowness....
Hang on...
Er, yes it would!
Helicopters are very inefficient, it's why we don't use them if we can use a plane. The advantages of the helicopter lie in being capable of hovering and landing and taking off from small areas (like oil platforms) If it was possible to engineer an "Ornithopter" of the size depicted it is pretty much a given that it would out perform a helicopter in all circumstances. The military want to use small unmanned ornithopters for surveillance work as they would look like birds, indeed such devices have been used successfully to monitor bird populations without disturbing the subjects.
Edited by Rumblestripe on Tuesday 28th September 12:54
Dog Star said:
FFS! It’s a science fiction film! It’s set in the year 10191; how can you possibly be having an argument about the technical validity of ornithopter wings? 
It was just Ayahuasca trying to save face for a faux pas in the same order of magnitude as saying that the first Lord of the Rings film was stupid because they use swords and bows when guns and guided missiles are better.
Fact is that it doesn't matter whether ornithopter wings are better or not; that's the tech they use in Dune.
Had Denis Villeneuve decided to use helicopters instead, we would now be discussing what a pile of s
te the film is for getting that so wrong. The only reason we let the David Lynch film get away with fixed wing fliers is because we know the SFX of the time wasn't capable of depicting an orni. Much like the 1953 version of War of the Worlds had to use flying war machines for the Martians as they didn't have the SFX tech to depict tripod walkers. ajprice said:
If they didn't have the dragonfly wings they wouldn't be able to fly. It's a different planet and helicopters hadn't been invented there.
Didn't they ultimately come from Earth though?Maybe rotating high precision parts have trouble with all the sand and elastomeric hinges are lower maintenance?
snoopy25 said:
Du1point8 said:
The biggest thing to complain about is that its only part 1 and they don't know if part 2 will be coming out.
Oh really? Blimey i thought it was the full film.....I'll wait till it comes out on a streaming service then 
snoopy25 said:
Oh really? Blimey i thought it was the full film.....I'll wait till it comes out on a streaming service then
Which is a great way of ensuring that the second half of the story doesn’t get made; they will need box office revenue. Get down to your local cinema. Whoever posted that ^^^ up there about “Paul Atreides dies”. - you what?!?
This film covers the first half of the Dune novel. Paul does not die in Dune. JagLover said:
Sensible
The book is too big for a single film.
Releasing it is one thing, making it is another. The book is too big for a single film.
I assume they know what they're doing, but the idea of gathering up all those sets, actors and technicians from several years ago from scratch again to film the same type of stuff you've already filmed seems pretty far out to me.
There aren't many films that have been made back to back, but this feels like the world's most obvious candidate.
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