James May's Man Lab

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Piersman2

6,610 posts

201 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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Dunk76 said:
Having a browse of May's columns in the Telegraph website, it would appear this series is connected to his new book
Well, judging by the standard of the 'show' I can't imagine he's done much for his book sales. I assume the book must be one of those 'in time for christmas' type things with lots of large bright pictures , little content and designed to catch the eye of passing grannies so they can buy it because it's got 'that nice man from Top Gear'.

I wouldn't say May has sold out, but he's definitely cashed in smile


Truckosaurus

11,521 posts

286 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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The Times' tv guide at the weekend gave the show a thumbs-up and were suggesting that it was good to see an intelligent show being made and said May was 'didactic', so it was with high hopes I set my Sky+ box and series-link for the show.

I watched it last night. It was disappointing. By rushing through so many topics - UXB, trainset, concrete kitchen, guitar tuning, shoe shining, remote control picnic table (FFS!), some sad sap singing in front of a council block, etc. - they only seemed to cover the UXB topic in any sort of detail.

They would have been better off trying to be more serious and making it more like a bloke's version of one of these home makeover shows and turn their large empty warehouse space into a "Man's House" that Tim 'The Toolman' Taylor would envy. So, forget the silly railway but instead make the "Man's Kitchen" by making a full sized kitchen out of the concrete and fit in some gadgets like a big fridge, ice machine, flame grills etc.

F i F

44,360 posts

253 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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S. Gonzales Esq. said:
skeggysteve said:
He did mention some guff about the wire colours and then got the the old colours wrong - he said balck was the live!
The fact that that fact slipped through unnoticed probably tells you all you need to know about the production team.
Very true, yet whilst I have not been in front of camera being completely talentless and not at all photogenic and therefore do not understand the stress of being "the talent" I still cannot imagine a point where I wouldn't have gone "oi black - live, hang on a minute..."

It shows they really are just reading a script / auto-cue and brain is in neutral.

@ James May, Neutral, that's the blue one.
HTH
hehe

@ Ja

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

250 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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Watched it, thought the format was rather too jumpy but some of the bits where quite good, I would say good concept bad execution.

Morningside

24,111 posts

231 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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Dunk76 said:
Having a browse of May's columns in the Telegraph website, it would appear this series is connected to his new book
Thanks. Just made an alteration.


Christmas list:
Pair of socks
James May Book
Bubblebath.


CooperD

2,890 posts

179 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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I haven't seen this yet and usually like James May's programmes. Certainly the Toy ones and the Beer and Drinks with Oz Clarke, but having read the views of Pistonheaders on this thread will give it a miss.

Laurel Green

30,797 posts

234 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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Didn't think it to be the best of James recent achievements but, anything that gets folk building, or understanding how things are built, has to be a good thing.

Charlie Foxtrot

3,046 posts

217 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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Did he actually explain how to wire a plug in the end? I don't think he did. anyway, for those that still aren't sure:

Brown wire to the right
Blue one to the left
yellow/gree one goes straight to the top.

Thats what i remember from school. Don't ask me which one does what though.

Laurel Green

30,797 posts

234 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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I don't think he did explain the wiring of the plug; perhaps didn't he want to be hit with compensation claims from tards, for wrong interpretation of explanation. Oh and, red/brown wire is live and goes to the fused terminal.

cazzer

8,883 posts

250 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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b(L)ue Left
b(R)own Right

Easy peasy.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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I've never understood why an AC circuit has a live and negative to be honest

Balmoral Green

41,095 posts

250 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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It promised so much (at least, the TV guides did), yet delivered so little.

I shall watch again, but only because I'm a big JM fan. I do hope that was not the raison d'etre though, I would like to think he's better than that, and this was just a bit rubbish, nothing more.

snotrag

14,552 posts

213 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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cazzer said:
b(L)ue Left
b(R)own Right

Easy peasy.
Bottom Right OWN
Bottom Left UE

yes

ajprice

27,828 posts

198 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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I got as far as half way through, when they finished the concrete worktop. I want the half hour back. His other series have been good, Big Ideas had the history of the things he was talking about, the Toys series had a challenge that went from planning out to the finished thing, this was just random stuff. I remember the blue wire left brown wire right thing to wire a plug, and I'm about as technical with DIY stuff as a sausage.

Ultuous

2,248 posts

193 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
I've never understood why an AC circuit has a live and negative to be honest
Because for a current to flow, one wire has to supply the current and another take it away at and given point in time to complete the circuit - alternating or not... The 'live' wire can't 'push' charge into the appliance and then 'suck' it back out when it alternates - the 'neutral' (I've never understood why it's called that - makes it sound far too inert for my liking) has to provide that flow! nerd

marshalla

15,902 posts

203 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
I've never understood why an AC circuit has a live and negative to be honest
It doesn't - it has a live and a neutral.

agent006

12,051 posts

266 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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Ultuous said:
Because for a current to flow, one wire has to supply the current and another take it away at and given point in time to complete the circuit - alternating or not... The 'live' wire can't 'push' charge into the appliance and then 'suck' it back out when it alternates - the 'neutral' (I've never understood why it's called that - makes it sound far too inert for my liking) has to provide that flow! nerd
It needs two, but he meant why is there a need to differentiate between the two.

Laurel Green

30,797 posts

234 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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IanMorewood said:
Watched it, thought the format was rather too jumpy but some of the bits where quite good, I would say good concept bad execution.
Have just watched Sea Patrol UK and they were jumping between incidents, but it worked, in that they were jumping between different groups of people. Jumping back-and-forward between, well, the same person, doesn't work. Please take note BBC.

Pesty

42,655 posts

258 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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agent006 said:
Ultuous said:
Because for a current to flow, one wire has to supply the current and another take it away at and given point in time to complete the circuit - alternating or not... The 'live' wire can't 'push' charge into the appliance and then 'suck' it back out when it alternates - the 'neutral' (I've never understood why it's called that - makes it sound far too inert for my liking) has to provide that flow! nerd
It needs two, but he meant why is there a need to differentiate between the two.
Yes I think he is asking if you swapped the brown and the blue what would be the effect

(ok thats what I'm asking)

As for the programme it had promise but just failed.

When he said at the begining in a generation we have turned into a bunch of useless idiots (words to that effect) I think he is correct.

When I think of what my Father and grandfather could do it is really embarrasing and I am fairly hands on to an extent.

men younger than me generaly do not know how to do anything (massive generalisation). As for wireing a plug people have come to companies I have worked at for jobs such as mantenence Engineer requiring electrical and mechanical knowlage and not been able to demonstrate how to wire a plug despite having impressive quals.





Edited by Pesty on Tuesday 2nd November 23:10

zollburgers

1,278 posts

185 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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Pesty said:
agent006 said:
Ultuous said:
Because for a current to flow, one wire has to supply the current and another take it away at and given point in time to complete the circuit - alternating or not... The 'live' wire can't 'push' charge into the appliance and then 'suck' it back out when it alternates - the 'neutral' (I've never understood why it's called that - makes it sound far too inert for my liking) has to provide that flow! nerd
It needs two, but he meant why is there a need to differentiate between the two.
Yes I think he is asking if you swapped the brown and the blue what would be the effect

(ok thats what I'm asking)
I'm not electrical and I don't deal with single phase electricity so this may be wrong but I believe.....

The neutral is not live as such. The live wire is though, hence why it's fused. It alternates between +240 and -240 volts (realtive to the neutral wire or the earth wire). The neutral stays 0 at all times relative to earth. You can use earth as neutral but you still need a live.