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Sway

26,430 posts

195 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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Just read the released synopses for eps 2&3...

Sound bloody good! ToJ in ep 3 I think...

lemmingjames

7,464 posts

205 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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Sway said:
I agree they'll feature heavily, but I'm not sure in connection with Dany...

After all, does she need a fleet considering the size and range of at least drogo, and likely the other two once released?

I can see the ironborn becoming entangled once again in the affairs of the North.
Given that she has the unsullied as her army then yes she will need some boats.

Theres still abit more of the dorne story to come as well - are allowed to talk about how we think the books now interact with the programme?

Patrick Bateman

12,212 posts

175 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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If it's pure speculation then I don't see why not?

Aphex

2,160 posts

201 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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Can we talk about trailers that are already out for season 6? Theres a character in them that I'd like to speculate on biggrin

Sway

26,430 posts

195 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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lemmingjames said:
Sway said:
I agree they'll feature heavily, but I'm not sure in connection with Dany...

After all, does she need a fleet considering the size and range of at least drogo, and likely the other two once released?

I can see the ironborn becoming entangled once again in the affairs of the North.
Given that she has the unsullied as her army then yes she will need some boats.

Theres still abit more of the dorne story to come as well - are allowed to talk about how we think the books now interact with the programme?
Will she need the unsullied? They're going to do feck all against the wights, and just recreates the reasons why the Baratheons/Lannisters/Targs became rulers in the first place...

If GRRM is really trying to 'change the world forever', the methods have to be different.

JagLover

42,562 posts

236 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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jesusbuiltmycar said:
GRRM has pretty much announced that there is no end in site for TWOW and is unlikely to arrive this year. I am sure when/if it ever gets published most readers will stick with the series, especially as the show appears to be going in a very different direction to the books.
Well yes and no on that last point.

Some show plotlines have wandered wildly from the books and needed to to a large extent due to the large number of plotlines introduced in AFFC/ADWD.

However for all these sprawling fantasy series I always feel that the characters introduced in the first book or two are the most important.

Consider the POV characters in the first book

Ned
Catelyn
Jon
Tyrion
Arya
Dany
Sansa
Bran

The only one who has had ANY significant deviation from their book story in terms of locations and main plot beats is Sansa. Everyone else has kept to the book storylines as close as can be expected in a conversion.

It would not surprise me if the fates of all these characters was already planned in 1990. The story may have grown in the telling but was always heading toward the same destination.

It is perhaps a moot point as I doubt we will see the end in print, but I would be surprised to see massive deviations from the later books for those core characters, except as required to shorten the story on the show.

But I will read them if and when they come in any case.

Patrick Bateman

12,212 posts

175 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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Aphex said:
Can we talk about trailers that are already out for season 6? Theres a character in them that I'd like to speculate on biggrin
Arthur Dayne?

Aphex

2,160 posts

201 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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Patrick Bateman said:
Arthur Dayne?
No, this lady: (season 6 trailer 2, not sure if this is a spoiler, hopefully not!)

https://youtu.be/EI0ib1NErqg?t=55s


Sway

26,430 posts

195 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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Aphex said:
Patrick Bateman said:
Arthur Dayne?
No, this lady: (season 6 trailer 2, not sure if this is a spoiler, hopefully not!)

https://youtu.be/EI0ib1NErqg?t=55s
Can't be a spoiler if it's aired or speculation...

New Red Priestess, seemingly in Mereen. We saw the Red Priest last night in Mereen, but without much in the way of passioned followers - Varys looks pretty comfy on the throne in the Pyramid, and she's looking damned.... confident!

Halb

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53,012 posts

184 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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AndrewEH1 said:
I suspect Dorne will come to them rather than the other way around. Although Bronn should know that she was poisoned!
I reckon so. Dorne the plae is done with, the snakes plus mum will wreak havov in KL...and maybe the Citidel (where Tarly is off to.)

Patrick Bateman

12,212 posts

175 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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Wonder what the story is behind this bit of the episode 2 preview-

https://youtu.be/uOYTFqUhD9Q?t=5

Some skulls are getting smashed this season.

Mr Snrub

25,012 posts

228 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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An idea I had about Melisandre she looked like she was ready to just give up and die at the end of the episode. Could that magic collar have a similar revering effect on Jon Snow?

richtea78

5,574 posts

159 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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She said she saw Jon fighting at Winterfell, she didn't say who he was fighting for did she.

Calza

2,004 posts

116 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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Halb said:
I'll expect Sansa to send Brienne south to look for Arya considering that's what the chit-chat is about from next week's preview.
Wouldn't she be a bit daft sending away her best protection at the moment?

Speaking of which ... who in Westeros is now a better fighter than Brienne ?

AndrewEH1 said:
Although Bronn should know that she was poisoned!
Surely even a toddler could put 2+2 together to figure out she was poisoned by that woman?

westtra

1,537 posts

202 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Aphex said:
No, this lady: (season 6 trailer 2, not sure if this is a spoiler, hopefully not!)

https://youtu.be/EI0ib1NErqg?t=55s
Im more worried about the end of the trailer with what happens to tyrion.

Tony Starks

2,115 posts

213 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Who was Ramsey fighting? They looked too suited and organised to be Wildlings. Or could it be Ramsey fighting Roose?

Halb

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53,012 posts

184 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Calza said:
Halb said:
I'll expect Sansa to send Brienne south to look for Arya considering that's what the chit-chat is about from next week's preview.
Wouldn't she be a bit daft sending away her best protection at the moment?
Speaking of which ... who in Westeros is now a better fighter than Brienne ?
Yeah Brienne must be up there, along with zombieMountain I would suppose.

Tony Starks said:
Who was Ramsey fighting? They looked too suited and organised to be Wildlings. Or could it be Ramsey fighting Roose?
From ep 2 preview? I'm expecting Roose to accidentally fall down the stairs anyday now.

Mr Snrub said:
An idea I had about Melisandre she looked like she was ready to just give up and die at the end of the episode. Could that magic collar have a similar revering effect on Jon Snow?
The red stone is the basis of her power, it's a glamour magic. She was shocked that Thoros could revive Beric. I reckon she'll try the same thing on JS.

Patrick Bateman said:
Wonder what the story is behind this bit of the episode 2 preview-
https://youtu.be/uOYTFqUhD9Q?t=5
Some skulls are getting smashed this season.
Tommen coming into his own mind? Maybe influenced by Kevan. Watching S5E10 just before, one can see the puss Kev had when Cersei finished her walk of shame..not impressed. biggrin
Cersei has no powerbase without Tom. Kev has CR. ALl she has is her creepy ex-maester and her zombie.

irocfan

40,671 posts

191 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Halb said:
Calza said:
Halb said:
I'll expect Sansa to send Brienne south to look for Arya considering that's what the chit-chat is about from next week's preview.
Wouldn't she be a bit daft sending away her best protection at the moment?
Speaking of which ... who in Westeros is now a better fighter than Brienne ?
Yeah Brienne must be up there, along with zombieMountain I would suppose.
I'd back Bronn to take Brienne to be honest. While she is a good fighter (outstanding for a woman) I suspect that some of her success comes from male fighters treating her as a joke (sexism at work).

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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irocfan said:
I'd back Bronn to take Brienne to be honest. While she is a good fighter (outstanding for a woman) I suspect that some of her success comes from male fighters treating her as a joke (sexism at work).
All moot though, surely? The script dictates who would be better to suit the narrative..

glazbagun

14,297 posts

198 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Yeah I think the "who's the best" thing is situation dependent. She beat the Hound when he was starving and malnourished and she won in a 1 to one against someone who was a good jouster. But she wasn't better than pre-injury Jaime Lannister.

I think there's generally classes of fighters and if you're in the top class then any of your peers can have you on a good day, while those below you need numbers on their side. I liked how hard Brienne had to fight for sansa as opposed to the common inverse ninja thing.
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