Grand Designs

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paulw123

3,275 posts

191 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Lovely building, yes I would have liked a couple more original features retained inside but a lovely job all the same.

Mercdriver

2,093 posts

34 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Is the first one where the final cost was not revealed or did I miss it?

MXRod

2,758 posts

148 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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I noticed the problem with the mill race under the building was edited out ,it was quite serious

cmsapms

707 posts

245 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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MXRod said:
I noticed the problem with the mill race under the building was edited out ,it was quite serious
Yes, there was just one throwaway comment to the effect that Kev was expecting the kitchen to be cold and damp. I'd have preferred some more detail, but the producer obviously thinks (wrongly, IMO) that Eeyore whining on for minute after minute about them running out of money makes better telly rolleyes

Red9zero

7,022 posts

58 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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cmsapms said:
MXRod said:
I noticed the problem with the mill race under the building was edited out ,it was quite serious
Yes, there was just one throwaway comment to the effect that Kev was expecting the kitchen to be cold and damp. I'd have preferred some more detail, but the producer obviously thinks (wrongly, IMO) that Eeyore whining on for minute after minute about them running out of money makes better telly rolleyes
I assume that was what was under the grid in the garden. Would have been nice for a bit more info though.

WPA

8,969 posts

115 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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Nice project and enjoyed the catchup but looks too new inside for me, no character at all

SydneyBridge

8,691 posts

159 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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They semed to have no personal pocessions, I know people would tidy up before Kevin comes around but there seemed to be nothing

BoRED S2upid

19,754 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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Lucas Ayde said:
The latest series of New Zealand Grand Designs is ticking along nicely. They weren't as affected with the non-stop series of nonsensically random lockdowns as we were, so even though builds were impacted, it was not much worse than the sort of 'normal' delays you might get (mostly due to shortage of materials) and of course, much higher prices for the building materials wrecking budgets.

There have been some stunning builds too .. last couple I saw were a huge mansion type thing near the beach (which looked pretty amazing) and a sort of 'glass house' where the middle section had a garden in it, with living areas at both ends. Oddball, but very well done. There was proper discussion of the design principles and building techniques employed and the 'drama' presented come from regular build issues.
Where can I find New Zealand? It’s not on 4Od

rallycross

12,852 posts

238 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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SydneyBridge said:
They semed to have no personal pocessions, I know people would tidy up before Kevin comes around but there seemed to be nothing
I said the same thing looked like a show house, the program was a drag having seen the original and the follow up there was very little new film and as above they missed out the bit from the last update about the water/damp problem.

Puzzles

1,894 posts

112 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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I've mixed feelings about Kevin banging on about the interior, tbf it needs to be livable, I'd want the walls to have insulation etc.

Essarell

1,265 posts

55 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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Puzzles said:
I've mixed feelings about Kevin banging on about the interior, tbf it needs to be livable, I'd want the walls to have insulation etc.
Agree, Kevin McCold, was unfairly harsh towards a couple who had put in an incredible amount of effort which at times had clearly taken an emotional toll.
He did alude to being overly critical as part of the summing up. No mention of final cost although that may not be relevant.

I really liked the finished house, ready for another 400 years.

droopsnoot

12,047 posts

243 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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Puzzles said:
I've mixed feelings about Kevin banging on about the interior, tbf it needs to be livable, I'd want the walls to have insulation etc.
I thought it was a bit unfair complaining about getting rid of so much of the original timber, but the chap who assessed it showed it all crumbing away so I don't really know what the alternative would have been.

V8covin

7,386 posts

194 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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droopsnoot said:
I thought it was a bit unfair complaining about getting rid of so much of the original timber, but the chap who assessed it showed it all crumbing away so I don't really know what the alternative would have been.
Yes he was being a dick about it,you can't preserve something if it's literally crumbling in your hands.
They did a great job in saving the building

Bonefish Blues

27,075 posts

224 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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V8covin said:
droopsnoot said:
I thought it was a bit unfair complaining about getting rid of so much of the original timber, but the chap who assessed it showed it all crumbing away so I don't really know what the alternative would have been.
Yes he was being a dick about it,you can't preserve something if it's literally crumbling in your hands.
They did a great job in saving the building
You can, by cutting back into solid wood and joining new timber to the end. If it had been listed, that's what they would have had to do.

Puddenchucker

4,149 posts

219 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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Bonefish Blues said:
V8covin said:
droopsnoot said:
I thought it was a bit unfair complaining about getting rid of so much of the original timber, but the chap who assessed it showed it all crumbing away so I don't really know what the alternative would have been.
Yes he was being a dick about it,you can't preserve something if it's literally crumbling in your hands.
They did a great job in saving the building
You can, by cutting back into solid wood and joining new timber to the end. If it had been listed, that's what they would have had to do.
I thought it was Grade 2 listed?

thegreenhell

15,606 posts

220 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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That assumes there was something solid left to cut back to.

Puzzles

1,894 posts

112 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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Could have made the build uneconomical. Overall I thought they did a good job.

Edited by Puzzles on Friday 1st December 11:53

Mercdriver

2,093 posts

34 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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If you enjoy this try the great house giveaway on ch4 , idea is two people who have never met are given a house to renovate and a budget, any? Profit they share.

Think the costs are biased to the tv company at the end they include interest on the loan as well so the tv company are not putting money up in front and the two house renovators do not get a share of the profit made from selling the programme.

Some make a big profit, some lose money, some fall out halfway through the renovation.

Still worth watching though

gt40steve

711 posts

105 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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Puddenchucker said:
Bonefish Blues said:
V8covin said:
droopsnoot said:
I thought it was a bit unfair complaining about getting rid of so much of the original timber, but the chap who assessed it showed it all crumbing away so I don't really know what the alternative would have been.
Yes he was being a dick about it,you can't preserve something if it's literally crumbling in your hands.
They did a great job in saving the building
You can, by cutting back into solid wood and joining new timber to the end. If it had been listed, that's what they would have had to do.
I thought it was Grade 2 listed?
Yes, they said it was listed & without this restoration / rebuild it would have sat there & got worse and worse.

Kevin was a bit harsh as others have pointed out. It was not a 'mill restoration' . The mill had no living accommodation and the owners don't want to live amongst redundant milling equipment.

To splice new wood into just about every original beam would have taken too much time & money.

V8covin

7,386 posts

194 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Watching Homes under the hammer they're keen to point out houses built from non standard construction methods, principally concrete or prefabs,are often difficult to mortgage.
A lot of Grand designs houses are built from concrete or prefabricated panels and yet don't appear to have any problems getting mortgages or funding to build
What's the difference? Is it because modern methods have known standards and controls ?