BBC Are Making Programs For The US That We're Not Seeing!

BBC Are Making Programs For The US That We're Not Seeing!

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im

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34,302 posts

219 months

Sunday 31st March 2013
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In particular a series called Orphan Black going out on BBC America and in Canada, paid for by the BBC but not being shown over here!

http://www.bbcamerica.com/orphan-black/

Now for a corporation that owes its bloody existence to our TV Licence fees this is a bit rum. I appreciate that the production costs for this series have been taken from advertising income garnered from the US (something they can't do over here) but as an enterprise created by the British taxpayer they could at least show the program over here for us to enjoy.

Also, as they can now make programs from this revenue stream perhaps a bit of payback to us in the form of 'free' programs being aired over here might mean they have to spend less on UK production and consequently demand less from us in licence fees. Just a thought.




The_Burg

4,848 posts

216 months

Sunday 31st March 2013
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Have to say that irks me somewhat. Radio station for outside the UK too.
And they couldn't give us F1!

davepoth

29,395 posts

201 months

Sunday 31st March 2013
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im said:
Also, as they can now make programs from this revenue stream perhaps a bit of payback to us in the form of 'free' programs being aired over here might mean they have to spend less on UK production and consequently demand less from us in licence fees. Just a thought.
That's how they were able to suck up the freeze in the licence charge. Given that this program (since it's America) has been made by an outside production company I imagine there are some licencing things to work out - no point paying them extra to show it in the UK if it had sucked mightily.


sooperscoop

408 posts

165 months

Sunday 31st March 2013
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Meh, BBC America is a separate, commercially funded company.

In fact, it's illegal for the BBC to fund non-UK channels so rest assured, it's not your cash, not a penny.

Sounds like a good program, though, it'll be on torrents quickly I'm sure....

MartinQ

796 posts

183 months

Sunday 31st March 2013
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I remember reading something recently that BBC World makes a profit due to their advertising. This profit is then channelled back to the UK and subsidises the licence fee that we pay.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

257 months

Monday 1st April 2013
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I have the first episode on my hard drive, but yet to watch it.

escargot

17,111 posts

219 months

Monday 1st April 2013
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MartinQ said:
I remember reading something recently that BBC World makes a profit due to their advertising. This profit is then channelled back to the UK and subsidises the licence fee that we pay.
Indeed. But don't let the facts get in the way of a bit of outrage.

megaphone

10,799 posts

253 months

Monday 1st April 2013
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im said:
In particular a series called Orphan Black going out on BBC America and in Canada, paid for by the BBC but not being shown over here!

http://www.bbcamerica.com/orphan-black/

Now for a corporation that owes its bloody existence to our TV Licence fees this is a bit rum. I appreciate that the production costs for this series have been taken from advertising income garnered from the US (something they can't do over here) but as an enterprise created by the British taxpayer they could at least show the program over here for us to enjoy.

Also, as they can now make programs from this revenue stream perhaps a bit of payback to us in the form of 'free' programs being aired over here might mean they have to spend less on UK production and consequently demand less from us in licence fees. Just a thought.
How do you know it will not be shown in the UK?

im

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Monday 1st April 2013
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escargot said:
MartinQ said:
I remember reading something recently that BBC World makes a profit due to their advertising. This profit is then channelled back to the UK and subsidises the licence fee that we pay.
Indeed. But don't let the facts get in the way of a bit of outrage.
Outrageis still in full swing I'm afraid...

How much did I personally save last financial year through the efforts of BBC America? A quick google doesn't seem to tell me, just a BBC Mission Statement about funds being delivered back to the UK.

Show the programs over here as well in order to save further £££'s. It's pretty gauling that even programs made by us get shown over there first.

TheHeretic said:
I have the first episode on my hard drive, but yet to watch it.
I assume you've downloaded it from the net thus making my point that the delay between US broadcast and UK broadcast means that it is costing us (the licence fee payer) revenue. People will D/L it and so wont watch it when it is eventually broadcast over here. US TV companies have got smart with this problem and started broadcasting their top shows within hours to the worldwide market. Hell, BBC America broadcasts Dr Who within hours stateside to both satisify the US fan base and minimise piracy.


TheHeretic

73,668 posts

257 months

Monday 1st April 2013
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im said:
I assume you've downloaded it from the net thus making my point that the delay between US broadcast and UK broadcast means that it is costing us (the licence fee payer) revenue. People will D/L it and so wont watch it when it is eventually broadcast over here. US TV companies have got smart with this problem and started broadcasting their top shows within hours to the worldwide market. Hell, BBC America broadcasts Dr Who within hours stateside to both satisify the US fan base and minimise piracy.
Well, as I am in Bulgaria, it wouldn't have an effect regardless. Still, in this day and age the companies seem oblivious to the digital age. Regional releases, delays, and the like just mean people will go elsewhere.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

230 months

Monday 1st April 2013
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They are also making shows for the UK that I am not seeing.

Funk

26,345 posts

211 months

Monday 1st April 2013
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TheHeretic said:
im said:
I assume you've downloaded it from the net thus making my point that the delay between US broadcast and UK broadcast means that it is costing us (the licence fee payer) revenue. People will D/L it and so wont watch it when it is eventually broadcast over here. US TV companies have got smart with this problem and started broadcasting their top shows within hours to the worldwide market. Hell, BBC America broadcasts Dr Who within hours stateside to both satisify the US fan base and minimise piracy.
Well, as I am in Bulgaria, it wouldn't have an effect regardless. Still, in this day and age the companies seem oblivious to the digital age. Regional releases, delays, and the like just mean people will go elsewhere.
Absolutely. I have friends and family around the world and we'd like to discuss things like GoT etc rather than being 6 months behind like some programmes are. Not to mention that when they ARE eventually shown, they're sporadic, on random channels and with differing timeslots. Getting them online is so much simpler and means you don't have to set a box to record it - and if you miss it, it doesn't matter; you can get almost any episode of any TV show at any time. Technology and viewers have moved on; broadcasting.....hasn't.

realjv

1,121 posts

168 months

Monday 1st April 2013
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im said:
How much did I personally save last financial year through the efforts of BBC America? A quick google doesn't seem to tell me, just a BBC Mission Statement about funds being delivered back to the UK.
£216m for the 2011/12 year. The report is right on BBC worldwides front page and not difficult to find at all.


Edited by realjv on Monday 1st April 17:42

im

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219 months

Monday 1st April 2013
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realjv said:
im said:
How much did I personally save last financial year through the efforts of BBC America? A quick google doesn't seem to tell me, just a BBC Mission Statement about funds being delivered back to the UK.
£216m for the 2011/12 year. The report is right on BBC worldwides front page and not difficult to find at all.
...and its not being shown over here because...?

ali_kat

31,998 posts

223 months

Monday 1st April 2013
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sooperscoop said:
Meh, BBC America is a separate, commercially funded company.
This!
MartinQ said:
I remember reading something recently that BBC World makes a profit due to their advertising. This profit is then channelled back to the UK and subsidises the licence fee that we pay.
And this!
escargot said:
Indeed. But don't let the facts get in the way of a bit of outrage.
And this! hehe

realjv

1,121 posts

168 months

Monday 1st April 2013
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im said:
realjv said:
im said:
How much did I personally save last financial year through the efforts of BBC America? A quick google doesn't seem to tell me, just a BBC Mission Statement about funds being delivered back to the UK.
£216m for the 2011/12 year. The report is right on BBC worldwides front page and not difficult to find at all.
...and its not being shown over here because...?
Because the BBC didn't make it. BBC Worldwide is only handling distribution.

marcosgt

11,033 posts

178 months

Monday 1st April 2013
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Any chance we can get Eastenders moved to this category?

I know, I know, shut it, it ain't wurf it and I'm doing yur 'eads in!

M.

ninja-lewis

4,268 posts

192 months

Monday 1st April 2013
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im said:
...and its not being shown over here because...?
...the controllers of BBC One/Two/Three/Four haven't yet decided to show it on their channel; or they have decided to show but simply don't have room in the schedules at the moment.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

257 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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It's actually quite good.

im

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219 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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TheHeretic said:
It's actually quite good.
Damn! I knew you were gonna say that...just to irritate me even more laugh