Adverts on You Tube

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Eric Mc

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122,215 posts

267 months

Monday 8th April
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I normally sign into You Tube using my account - and face the usual barrage of annoying ads.

As an experiment. I have recently been looking at You Tube as a "guest" i.e. by not signing in using my account - and the volume and frequency of ads seems to have dropped significantly. Am I imagining this or is it genuine and, if it is genuine, have a found a permanent way of avoiding constant ads that does not involve me taking out a subscription?

Or will the You Tube algorithim find me out eventually?

J4CKO

41,764 posts

202 months

Monday 8th April
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I resisted YT Premium for ages, but as its my main way of watching stuff, I caved and am paying for it and its rather wonderful.

Not cheap, but then neither is your time and watching another Cadbury advert with some kid using buttons as currency or another drone/earwax removal spanner or whatever that nobody wants you to know about advert, I decided £16.99 is a small price to pay not to have that bks every 5 minutes.

Some channels/videos are almost unwatchable such is the ferocity of the ad content.

NDA

21,715 posts

227 months

Monday 8th April
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Eric Mc said:
I normally sign into You Tube using my account - and face the usual barrage of annoying ads.

As an experiment. I have recently been looking at You Tube as a "guest" i.e. by not signing in using my account - and the volume and frequency of ads seems to have dropped significantly. Am I imagining this or is it genuine and, if it is genuine, have a found a permanent way of avoiding constant ads that does not involve me taking out a subscription?

Or will the You Tube algorithim find me out eventually?
It's what I do... I don't sign into YouTube anymore and actually never see any ads via the Brave browser with adblocker.

There are very few sites I had subscribed to in any event, maybe 6 or 7, and I can remember them.

CT05 Nose Cone

25,016 posts

229 months

Monday 8th April
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I signed up for YT Premium as well. Yes I can use an adblock on my browser, but not on my TV, and getting YT Music and the ability to keep a video playing on your phone with the screen off is really handy

StevieBee

12,982 posts

257 months

Monday 8th April
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Eric Mc said:
Or will the You Tube algorithim find me out eventually?
At the moment, You Tube hasn't built up a clear picture of what you're interested in so cannot yet determine the sort of ads that fit your particular profile. But the more you watch, the clearer the picture and the number of ads you see will increase.

You can of course circumvent this by creating a new guest profile every couple of weeks.

J4CKO said:
another Cadbury advert with some kid using buttons as currency
Ahh - I like that Ad'!



Pistom

5,007 posts

161 months

Monday 8th April
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A recent YT Premium sucker here.

My justification is that my time is worth more than the subscription.

I never watched the ads - I just sat there waiting for the first opportunity to click skip.

Even if I only did that about 3 minutes a day then that was 15 hours a year which I'd never get back.

I'm not sure I'll stick with it but at the moment, there's enough material to justify paying so will continue to do so.

Zetec-S

5,954 posts

95 months

Monday 8th April
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It's odd how things have changed over the years. We used to watch 3-4 minutes of adverts, 3 or 4 times an hour on TV, in the days before we could record/skip or watch on demand. Nowadays we get pissed off having to watch 5 seconds of ads on YouTube (me included).

Eric Mc

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122,215 posts

267 months

Monday 8th April
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I think most of us can cope with ad breaks if they were obviously slotted into the right part of the main programme - with an "End of Part 1", End of Part 2" type intro to each ad break.

You Tube (due to the nature of the beast) just throws ads in irrespective of what stage the programme is at or if a person is mid sentence etc. They are just abrupt and intrusive and consequently, very annoying.

And they are also for products and/or procedures which are highly dubious and borderline illegal and very likely in contravention of UK Advertising Standards.

Does the UK Advertising Standards Authority have any power over the content shown on You Tube ads?

Shaoxter

4,096 posts

126 months

Monday 8th April
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J4CKO said:
I resisted YT Premium for ages, but as its my main way of watching stuff, I caved and am paying for it and its rather wonderful.

Not cheap, but then neither is your time and watching another Cadbury advert with some kid using buttons as currency or another drone/earwax removal spanner or whatever that nobody wants you to know about advert, I decided £16.99 is a small price to pay not to have that bks every 5 minutes.

Some channels/videos are almost unwatchable such is the ferocity of the ad content.
No need to pay that much, get a VPN and sign up at the Ukraine/Turkey etc prices.

Motorman74

365 posts

23 months

Monday 8th April
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I pay for Premium - I watch more youtube than anything else, so to me it's worth the money as it gives me YouTube music as well.

I noticed before I started on Premium, certain channels were just ridiculous with the amount of adverts in the - Edd China's channel being a particular nightmare - add to that the ads that are baked in to the content as well, and it's going to take you 40 minutes to see 20 minutes of actual content.

I'd not go back to the ad supported model - I'll either pay or not bother watching. There seems to be a general decline across the channels I subscribe to anyway at the moment (limited sample size of around 100 channels admittedly), and I'm struggling to find anything new that holds my interest enough to subscribe.

MonkeyBusiness

3,960 posts

189 months

untakenname

4,976 posts

194 months

Monday 8th April
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I feel premium is decent value for money as it comes with the Music as well, have binned off Spotify.


Shaoxter said:
J4CKO said:
I resisted YT Premium for ages, but as its my main way of watching stuff, I caved and am paying for it and its rather wonderful.

Not cheap, but then neither is your time and watching another Cadbury advert with some kid using buttons as currency or another drone/earwax removal spanner or whatever that nobody wants you to know about advert, I decided £16.99 is a small price to pay not to have that bks every 5 minutes.

Some channels/videos are almost unwatchable such is the ferocity of the ad content.
No need to pay that much, get a VPN and sign up at the Ukraine/Turkey etc prices.
The price in the UK is £12 per month, it's likely £17 if you pay for via Apples playstore, if you subscribe directly from the website it's a fiver cheaper.

sandman77

2,439 posts

140 months

Monday 8th April
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untakenname said:
The price in the UK is £12 per month, it's likely £17 if you pay for via Apples playstore, if you subscribe directly from the website it's a fiver cheaper.
Or use a VPN to sign up (and it’s only needed for initial sign up) and it will be under £2 a month.

StevieBee

12,982 posts

257 months

Monday 8th April
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Eric Mc said:
Does the UK Advertising Standards Authority have any power over the content shown on You Tube ads?
ASA falls under the control of OfCom and yes, they do indeed have the power to remove ads from You Tube as they do with any other media.

The difference between TV and You Tube ads is that with TV, the ads have to go through a clearing process before they get aired. Broadcasters are not allowed to air an advert unless it's been independently cleared first. This checks any claims made are truthful and that other standards have been met. With You Tube and other internet based advertising, pre-clearing doesn't happen so OfCom respond to consumer complaints reactively.

They do use technology to pro-actively address errant ads but this has some serious flaws (IMO).

I recently ran a campaign for a client (a Police Force) that was encouraging parents to speak to their kids about knives. The ads were quite hard hitting and emotive but conformed to all the guidelines. But the 'system' added two and two and came up with six, decreeing that we were promoting violence when the exact opposite was the case.





The Gauge

2,125 posts

15 months

Monday 8th April
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I never used to get any adverts until a few days ago, no idea why I'm suddenly getting them. Videos now start with two adverts, but with just audio and no picture, then there's a long pause before the actual video plays.

(MacBook with Safari & Adblocker)

Onelastattempt

401 posts

49 months

Monday 8th April
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sandman77 said:
untakenname said:
The price in the UK is £12 per month, it's likely £17 if you pay for via Apples playstore, if you subscribe directly from the website it's a fiver cheaper.
Or use a VPN to sign up (and it’s only needed for initial sign up) and it will be under £2 a month.
My son did this for me as I listen to a lot of music through YouTube, £2 a month for unlimited music with no ads until YouTube catch on to what people are doing !

J4CKO

41,764 posts

202 months

Monday 8th April
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Onelastattempt said:
sandman77 said:
untakenname said:
The price in the UK is £12 per month, it's likely £17 if you pay for via Apples playstore, if you subscribe directly from the website it's a fiver cheaper.
Or use a VPN to sign up (and it’s only needed for initial sign up) and it will be under £2 a month.
My son did this for me as I listen to a lot of music through YouTube, £2 a month for unlimited music with no ads until YouTube catch on to what people are doing !
Ok, will be having a look at this, worth and bit of time if it saves all that.


614-HSO

1,347 posts

50 months

Tuesday 9th April
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The ads are becoming more frequent and annoying though.

Eric Mc

Original Poster:

122,215 posts

267 months

Tuesday 9th April
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StevieBee said:
ASA falls under the control of OfCom and yes, they do indeed have the power to remove ads from You Tube as they do with any other media.

The difference between TV and You Tube ads is that with TV, the ads have to go through a clearing process before they get aired. Broadcasters are not allowed to air an advert unless it's been independently cleared first. This checks any claims made are truthful and that other standards have been met. With You Tube and other internet based advertising, pre-clearing doesn't happen so OfCom respond to consumer complaints reactively.

They do use technology to pro-actively address errant ads but this has some serious flaws (IMO).

I recently ran a campaign for a client (a Police Force) that was encouraging parents to speak to their kids about knives. The ads were quite hard hitting and emotive but conformed to all the guidelines. But the 'system' added two and two and came up with six, decreeing that we were promoting violence when the exact opposite was the case.

Interesting, thanks.

Some of the products and services (especially those linked to health and medical issues) on You Tube are downright dangerous. They would not make to a TV screen through normal methods.

redrabbit29

1,399 posts

135 months

Tuesday 9th April
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YouTube premium is one of my best purchases in recent times. Particularly as a very heavy user.

The issue with anonymous browsing is you do miss out on a lot of the recommendations which usually lead to finding the most amazing channels and people.

It's fine if you just want to watch a specific person or video. But for me, it misses the whole point which is to find other content and entertainment. It would be like having Netflix but only watching specific shows you knew abuot and not being made aware of all the other 5* shows.