Afghanistan Hostage Rescue

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TheDiplomat

72 posts

146 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afg...

Excellent work by the SAS who were carried on US helicopters according to Sky news.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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TheDiplomat said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afg...

Excellent work by the SAS who were carried on US helicopters according to Sky news.
Well we know what was the most dangerous bit was

TheDiplomat

72 posts

146 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
Well we know what was the most dangerous bit was
Or there were shortages of RAF Chinooks/they may have preferred a Black Hawk?

whistle

Pesty

42,655 posts

258 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
Well we know what was the most dangerous bit was
well we could just be thankful that the US pilots put their lives at risk transporting our troops to rescue a uk national. they deserve a pat on the back as well.

we probably don't have any helicopters that could have done it or we might have a couple but they were broken at the time.

do you really need to have a dig at our allies like that?

Mr_B

10,480 posts

245 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
TheDiplomat said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afg...

Excellent work by the SAS who were carried on US helicopters according to Sky news.
Well we know what was the most dangerous bit was
Bit silly when it does seem to suggest we don't have enough or the right type of helicopters to do it without asking the Americans to help.
Good news I guess, but do wonder if riding round Afghanistan on a horse as a westerner is not a touch on the reckless side, despite trying to do good work.

EDLT

15,421 posts

208 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
TheDiplomat said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afg...

Excellent work by the SAS who were carried on US helicopters according to Sky news.
Well we know what was the most dangerous bit was
[SAS jump off helicopter]

Pilot: Hey Captain Bubba I see some of dem der soldier types
Captain Bubba: Whataya waitin' for jus shoot em!

[Pilot shoots SAS with Hellfire missiles]

CoopR

957 posts

238 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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Dave said:
"They should know if they take British citizens as hostage we do not pay ransoms, we do not trade prisoners.
"They can expect a swift and brutal end.
That's much more like the language these sorts of people understand! Well done to all involved, i hope someone is sending them across some of these this weekend. beer

Pesty

42,655 posts

258 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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CoopR said:
Dave said:
"They should know if they take British citizens as hostage we do not pay ransoms, we do not trade prisoners.
"They can expect a swift and brutal end.
That's much more like the language these sorts of people understand! Well done to all involved, i hope someone is sending them across some of these this weekend. beer
so when are they going to start taking out Somali pirates then?

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

211 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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Excellet work by ALL involved!

note to Mr Cameron

Why the flying fk do we have to ask the Americans to fly our Elite forces around?
Don't you think that they ought to have their own?

fking disgracful!

maniac0796

1,292 posts

168 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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It's all well and good sending the SAS to rescue hostages, well done to them, but why are we wasting the SAS' skills on these petty rescue missions when they should be acting against the Mugabes and al-Assads of the world.

Political posturing.

Pesty

42,655 posts

258 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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maniac0796 said:
acting against the Mugabes and al-Assads of the world.

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No we shouldn't. whoever replaces mugabe will be just as bad. we are not the world police we shouldnt be messing around in afgan imo fk em and let them live like barbarians.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

211 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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Pesty said:
maniac0796 said:
acting against the Mugabes and al-Assads of the world.

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No we shouldn't. whoever replaces mugabe will be just as bad. we are not the world police we shouldnt be messing around in afgan imo fk em and let them live like barbarians.
The danger is that Nothing replaces Mugabe and the country becomes another Somalia.

motorizer

1,498 posts

173 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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maniac0796 said:
It's all well and good sending the SAS to rescue hostages, well done to them, but why are we wasting the SAS' skills on these petty rescue missions when they should be acting against the Mugabes and al-Assads of the world.

Political posturing.
I very much doubt the SAS have the resources to do stuff like that...its not what they are there for.
they're not going to overthrow a regime no matter how well trained they are
Nothing petty about a rescue mission either, you need to show these people you mean business

BruceV8

3,325 posts

249 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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Interesting to hear that they used US helicopters. Despite my usual rantings about the RAF, I'm told the SF support guys are really very good. I wonder why they weren't used on this op?

Maybe they were fully committed elsewhere - there are smash ops on most nights. Maybe there was a political reason for the Americans being involved. All mere conjecture, of course - I am not and never have been one of them. The main thing is that the op went well: the hostages were released, there were no coalition forces casualties and some kidnappers are no more. Good result.

Ross1988

1,234 posts

185 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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maniac0796 said:
It's all well and good sending the SAS to rescue hostages, well done to them, but why are we wasting the SAS' skills on these petty rescue missions when they should be acting against the Mugabes and al-Assads of the world.

Political posturing.
Petty hostage rescue missions? Really?

davepoth

29,395 posts

201 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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odyssey2200 said:
Excellet work by ALL involved!

note to Mr Cameron

Why the flying fk do we have to ask the Americans to fly our Elite forces around?
Don't you think that they ought to have their own?

fking disgracful!
We were offered Black Hawks five years ago but the MOD turned them down, preferring to refit Pumas instead. Because we all know how much cheaper that's going to be...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jul/19/mod-rejec...

roryfizz

143 posts

183 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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It seems American choppers were used due to the raid being in Northern Afghanistan where no British forces are based and it would make little sense to fly our under resourced and heavily utilised helicopters from Helmand across the entire country when there are allied forces with the correct equipment in the right area!

Du1point8

21,615 posts

194 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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davepoth said:
odyssey2200 said:
Excellet work by ALL involved!

note to Mr Cameron

Why the flying fk do we have to ask the Americans to fly our Elite forces around?
Don't you think that they ought to have their own?

fking disgracful!
We were offered Black Hawks five years ago but the MOD turned them down, preferring to refit Pumas instead. Because we all know how much cheaper that's going to be...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jul/19/mod-rejec...
Was that the disgrace of forcing (I mean suggesting) people should buy british, even if british is ste, because it aids our own economy rather than paying some 3rd party country that do the services well?

BruceV8

3,325 posts

249 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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roryfizz said:
It seems American choppers were used due to the raid being in Northern Afghanistan where no British forces are based and it would make little sense to fly our under resourced and heavily utilised helicopters from Helmand across the entire country when there are allied forces with the correct equipment in the right area!
Don't come round here with your sensible posts!!!