Ed Miliband calls for tightening on Immigration

[DanDC5]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18539472

''Labour leader Ed Miliband has promised to deter firms from exclusively employing workers from overseas, admitting his party "got it wrong" on immigration when in government.

He said Gordon Brown and Tony Blair should not have allowed uncontrolled immigration from new EU states in 2004....''

Stable door, horse bolted comes to mind.

[Pesty]

DanDC5 said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18539472

He said Gordon Brown and Tony Blair should not have allowed uncontrolled immigration from new EU states in 2004....''

EU states eh?

what about india/Pakistan/africa or any other third world imigration?

no that would be racist lets just talk about poles thats ok they are white.

[Oldred_V8S]

Blimey is an election coming around again?

[Mermaid]

Pesty said:

EU states eh?

what about india/Pakistan/africa or any other third world imigration?

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The big numbers are probably from the Indian sub-continent, and virtually no chance of any of them going back.

[0a]

In the Guardian:

Article Summary said:

No change to free movement of labour within EU.

Unfortunately this needs to be addressed before any meaningful change actually happens.

He also failed to state what he will suggest doing when a million Greeks arrive when they crash out of the Euro... and Spain does, and Italy etc...

Edit:

Mermaid said:

The big numbers are probably from the Indian sub-continent, and virtually no chance of any of them going back.

Here is the data 2001-2010 from the Guardian data blog on immigration. You can get the data at the bottom and cut it how you like yourself:

Row Labels Sum of Immigrants from, thousands
India 833
Australia 715
Poland 634
USA 505
China 463
South Africa 413
Germany 407
Pakistan 400
France 375
Spain 254
New Zealand 226
Philippines 222
Nigeria 120
Bangladesh 97
Japan 77
Canada 65
Netherlands 64
Italy 62
Republic of Ireland 61
Hong Kong 57
Malaysia 49
Zimbabwe 15

Edited by 0a on Friday 22 June 11:35

[muffinmenace]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...

[Miguel Alvarez]

Pesty said:

EU states eh?

what about india/Pakistan/africa or any other third world imigration?

no that would be racist lets just talk about poles thats ok they are white.

I don't see it that way personally. There are two issues. EU immigrants which for the most aprt are going to be white can come here freely and set up shop. I can't speak for India or most Africans but I do know if you haven't got a visa in Jamaica you're not coming to this country. (short of seriously falsifying your papers). Sure some people will come on student visas and overstay their welcome which is a big issue but I don't forsee it being the same problem. Africans will be mostly coming here as students or refugees.

My personal opinion. I don't particuarly care what colour or counrty people come from but we're a small counrty with a small amount of resources and you can't just allow people to flood en masse with no thought about where they're going to live, where they will work, how they will study, support and feed themselves.

[turbobloke]

The only worrying thing about Labour telling us they got it wrong is that you worry they're getting it wrong.

[martin84]

Certainly an element of horse-stable-bolted about this but at least he's acknowledged it, you have to give him that at least. Immigration was the issue nobody dare talk about under the last Government and an issue the Labour Government pretended did not exist. Maybe with the Cameron Government failing to bring immigration back to the pre-1997 levels like he pledged two years ago, Miliband has worked out immigration could actually be a key election issue.

He certainly needs an alternative to the broken record of 'jobs and growth' because people are losing interest.

[Smiler.]

Look, he's said they got it wrong, what more do you want?

Right then?

Settled.

Now, back to these Tory cuts & bankers..



















































Irony is lost on the leftists. I think that the clip of Broon calling that woman a nasty bigot should be aired 24/7 just in case they forget

[KENZ]

I have an African friend who studied in the UK. Her family payed her uni fees and provided money for living. Studied for 4 Years at a good uni. She's now working in UK, pays her visa annually and is entitled to no benefits. These are the people we want to attract.
You couldn't meet a nicer person too.

It's the EU migrant workers that's causing a drain on our resources. As most are on low wages, pay little tax and are entitled to all the benefits.

Edited by KENZ on Friday 22 June 13:19

[Pesty]

Smiler.]. I think that the clip of Broon calling that woman a nasty bigot should be aired 24/7 just in case they forget[/small said:

And the quote about rubbing 'the rights' nose in diversity should be mentioned on every news broadcast.

[muffinmenace]

Smiler. said:

Irony is lost on the leftists. I think that the clip of Broon calling that woman a nasty bigot should be aired 24/7 just in case they forget

Harman and Jowell are full of cracking quotes too.

[unrepentant]

0a said:

In the Guardian:

Article Summary said:

No change to free movement of labour within EU.

Unfortunately this needs to be addressed before any meaningful change actually happens.

He also failed to state what he will suggest doing when a million Greeks arrive when they crash out of the Euro... and Spain does, and Italy etc...

Edit:

Mermaid said:

The big numbers are probably from the Indian sub-continent, and virtually no chance of any of them going back.

Here is the data 2001-2010 from the Guardian data blog on immigration. You can get the data at the bottom and cut it how you like yourself:

Row Labels Sum of Immigrants from, thousands
India 833
Australia 715
Poland 634
USA 505
China 463
South Africa 413
Germany 407
Pakistan 400
France 375
Spain 254
New Zealand 226
Philippines 222
Nigeria 120
Bangladesh 97
Japan 77
Canada 65
Netherlands 64
Italy 62
Republic of Ireland 61
Hong Kong 57
Malaysia 49
Zimbabwe 15

Edited by 0a on Friday 22 June 11:35

Where's Poland on that list? I seem to recall Labout admitting that, after Bliar said that only 30,000 would arrive after enlargement, the actual figure was 600,000 in the first year?

[martin84]

muffinmenace said:

Harman and Jowell are full of cracking quotes too.

Baroness Warsi? UKIP are the BNP etc

Oliver Letwin?

Francis Maude?

Hide petrol (and pasties) under your sink!!

[Smiler.]

He's on R4 now.

They are playing clips of the nasally-challenged pillock now.

Remarkable.


Now take his words & show a picture of Enoch P.


The leftists would be flapping like gulls at a rubbish dump.

[Marf]

unrepentant said:

Where's Poland on that list?

Number 3 in the list...

[Sheets Tabuer]

I think it's less a case of bolting the stable door and more a case of you big fat lying bd.

The sniveling git will say anything to get himself elected and when he is what then? The left of his party will rip him a new one if he ever tried to stop their vision of a wonderful multi cultural utopia and he sodding well knows it.

Slimy tosspot.

[martin84]

Sheets Tabuer said:

I think it's less a case of bolting the stable door and more a case of you big fat lying bd.

The sniveling git will say anything to get himself elected and when he is what then? The left of his party will rip him a new one if he ever tried to stop their vision of a wonderful multi cultural utopia and he sodding well knows it.

Slimy tosspot.

Care to explain how that makes him any different than David Cameron? Change 'left' for 'right' and swap 'multi cultural utopia' for 'low immigration competative society' or some bks like that and you've got the same person.

[Sheets Tabuer]

I never said it was any different, I thought the thread was about Miliband.