Do humans contribute to climate change substantially?

Do humans contribute to climate change substantially?

Poll: Do humans contribute to climate change substantially?

Total Members Polled: 599

Yes: 25%
No: 75%
Author
Discussion

Halb

Original Poster:

53,012 posts

185 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Do humans contribute to climate change substantially?

TheSnitch

2,342 posts

156 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Halb said:
Do humans contribute to climate change substantially?
I suspect Bernard Manning probably did.

marcosgt

11,033 posts

178 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Are you people voting no having a Clarkson type laugh or do you really believe it not to be the case?

M

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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marcosgt said:
Are you people voting no having a Clarkson type laugh or do you really believe it not to be the case?

M
Both

magpie215

4,449 posts

191 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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man made climate change---do not believe
naturally occuring climate change---do believe
humans contributing a significant amount to climate change---do not believe
humans contributing a small amount to climate change---possibly

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

159 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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marcosgt said:
Are you people voting no having a Clarkson type laugh or do you really believe it not to be the case?

M
Are you people voting yes having an Al Gore type laugh or do you really believe it to be the case?

C

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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I don't know what the effect, or how severe but it is highly likely that we do contribute to a change in the worlds climate! Nowt I can do about it though!

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

256 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Theres just not real evidence to show that humans are contributing significantly to climate change.

Climate does change, for most of the planets life its been warmer than it is now. Its also changed significantly and rapidly before.

I always think its hubris that man thinks they are the centre of everything.

Megaflow

9,496 posts

227 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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marcosgt said:
Are you people voting no having a Clarkson type laugh or do you really believe it not to be the case?

M
I really believe it not to be the case.

The planet had climate change before we came along with the industrial revolution, if it didn't how did the last ice end.

Unemployed

335 posts

142 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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RobDickinson said:
I always think its hubris that man thinks they are the centre of everything.
Agree. Huge arrogance. Oh and a big and easy tax grab.

magpie215

4,449 posts

191 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Unemployed said:
RobDickinson said:
I always think its hubris that man thinks they are the centre of everything.
Agree. Huge arrogance. Oh and a big and easy tax grab.
Agree very hard to tax a volcano

johnfm

13,668 posts

252 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Jeez, not this again.


powerstroke

10,283 posts

162 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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marcosgt said:
Are you people voting no having a Clarkson type laugh or do you really believe it not to be the case?

M
Do you believe in fairys at the bottom of the garden , the earth is flat or all your told by the BBC????

Murph7355

37,874 posts

258 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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magpie215 said:
Unemployed said:
RobDickinson said:
I always think its hubris that man thinks they are the centre of everything.
Agree. Huge arrogance. Oh and a big and easy tax grab.
Agree very hard to tax a volcano
+1

eharding

13,820 posts

286 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Yes, in that we do pump enough stuff into the atmosphere to alter the climate.

But we don't really have a choice - the tree huggers don't have the remotest idea of a viable model of how we sustain existing enough economic activity - let alone growth - powered by windymills and yoghurt weaving, to keep our industrial and post-industrial economies from collapsing. So we need to burn oil and coal and gas, and lots of it, and have the vision to develop something not simply sustainable, but actually jaw-droppingly gob-smackingly fundamentally brilliant in terms of power generation (and supporting that effort will need of our filthy economies to fund it, because the last person to do fundamental physics research in a sustainable agrarian economy was called Newton).

So, yes, we cause acid rain, a bit of warming, a bit of cooling, and there are a few Polynesian islanders and a lot of coastal cities who may well be bang out of luck as the sea-levels rise.

But frankly, the alternative is to quietly dispose of the excess of the planet's population - say 7 billion - down to what it was when we were vaguely symbiotic with our environment, probably below the single billion level.

Of course, I suspect the hardcore eco-warriors would like nothing better than that....and we have a word for those sort of people.

deeps

5,394 posts

243 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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I believe human influence on global climate is likely in some albido fashion, but will be so small as to be immeasurable. I believe athropogenic CO2 emissions have no influence on global climate, which is hardly surprising given the tiny quantity and the fact that CO2 follows temperature.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

162 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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eharding said:
Yes, in that we do pump enough stuff into the atmosphere to alter the climate.

But we don't really have a choice - the tree huggers don't have the remotest idea of a viable model of how we sustain existing enough economic activity - let alone growth - powered by windymills and yoghurt weaving, to keep our industrial and post-industrial economies from collapsing. So we need to burn oil and coal and gas, and lots of it, and have the vision to develop something not simply sustainable, but actually jaw-droppingly gob-smackingly fundamentally brilliant in terms of power generation (and supporting that effort will need of our filthy economies to fund it, because the last person to do fundamental physics research in a sustainable agrarian economy was called Newton).

So, yes, we cause acid rain, a bit of warming, a bit of cooling, and there are a few Polynesian islanders and a lot of coastal cities who may well be bang out of luck as the sea-levels rise.

But frankly, the alternative is to quietly dispose of the excess of the planet's population - say 7 billion - down to what it was when we were vaguely symbiotic with our environment, probably below the single billion level.

Of course, I suspect the hardcore eco-warriors would like nothing better than that....and we have a word for those sort of people.
Was this single bilion before or after the medievel warm period ????

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

256 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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I think man's significant impact is on biodiversity rather than the climate directly.

We have cut down so much forest, built on so much land, fished, hunted and generally poisoned, killed and restricted the animal kingdom that IMO it has a much reduced ability to cope with climate change.

Gene Vincent

4,002 posts

160 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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No.