Snow stops worker getting in to work.

Snow stops worker getting in to work.

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crankedup

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25,764 posts

245 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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By way of a change the staff member phones the boss and advises boss he is unable to get into work owing to bad weather conditions affecting transport. As this chaps boss how do you react?

www.uk.finance.com/news/snowing-day-off-143551719

IroningMan

10,154 posts

248 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Link doesn't work for me, but we have a simple policy: if you can't get in by virtue of the weather, and you're not equipped to work from home, then you take the day off - paid/unpaid is up to you.

andymadmak

14,665 posts

272 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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broken link?

extraT

1,776 posts

152 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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you could ask A LOT of awkward questions or...

You could:

1- Schedule meetings throughout the day which must be attended by either teleconference or even better, skype.

2- Tell him he is working from home and that he must prepare XYZ report for tomorrow. But you are working on it as well and so you will need to speak to him throughout the day

3- Tell the employee the company will pay for a cab (if its reasonable)

4- tell him every other fker in the office managed to get in so you are docking him a day's pay.


Big E 118

2,411 posts

171 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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I think this is the link: http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/snowing-day-off-1...

All my staff are in walking distance, no excuses!


Puggit

48,536 posts

250 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Big E 118 said:
I think this is the link: http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/snowing-day-off-1...

All my staff are in walking distance, no excuses!
This I didn't know: Q: The school my children go to has closed because of cold weather and I have no childcare arrangements. Can my employer force me to take the time off as holiday?

You have no reason to feel guilty or panic, under the employment rights act 1996, an employee is entitled to take a reasonable amount of time off work because of an unexpected disruption to childcare arrangements.

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rxtx

6,016 posts

212 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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I just work from home if the trains are disrupted. Shame they were fine today, would have been nice to sit in front of the fire instead of my colleagues.

MitchT

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211 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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IroningMan said:
Link doesn't work for me, but we have a simple policy: if you can't get in by virtue of the weather, and you're not equipped to work from home, then you take the day off - paid/unpaid is up to you.
Link doesn't work for me either.

Similar policy where I work - can't get there, you take it as holiday. It irks me slightly because I can't control the weather, but my employer would defend itself by saying neither can they. What's slightly more annoying is that people get extra time off for matters of their own doing/choosing - i.e. extra allowance to be off when your kids are sick (you chose to have kids) or maternity leave, etc., but when you're off through no fault or choice of your own such as being immobilised by the weather, it's on your own head. Also, at my place is seems to be at the discretion of individual managers. Some folk are allowed to go home if so much as a grey cloud appears, without having to lose holiday, while others are stuck in the office 'till the bitter end. Also, while we could all work from home, many of us aren't allowed to. Again, manager discretion. Equality certainly has a long way yet to go, at least where I work.

crankedup

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245 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Thanks for fixing the ling Bigellie. Thought the topic would be of interest, loads of stuff in there that leaves grey areas, indeed land mines. The last comment regarding staff H&S issues are truly difficult unless your staff are minded to Company loyalty.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

160 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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crankedup said:
As this chaps boss how do you react?
To my very simple mind, if they can't get themselves to work it's their problem not their boss'.

They could live nearer work or have arrangements in place in case it gets a bit wintry in winter.

RH

jas xjr

11,309 posts

241 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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weird how people who have to drive for an hour make it into work the locals tend not to smile

manic47

735 posts

167 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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crankedup said:
The last comment regarding staff H&S issues are truly difficult unless your staff are minded to Company loyalty.
I've been there a few years ago when I refused to make a 280 mile round trip in fog/ice/snow to fix something totally trivial (would have been a five minute job) that was covered under a service contract.

In the end my MD backed down once we got the disciplinary process underway.

Miguel Alvarez

4,944 posts

172 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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jas xjr said:
weird how people who have to drive for an hour make it into work the locals tend not to smile
In defense of some people and as someone who lived a 15 min walk from work. Pavements were a nightmare. I hated it. Comparing that journey to today's in the warm car albeit driving slower than normal I know which I prefer.

98elise

26,895 posts

163 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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jas xjr said:
weird how people who have to drive for an hour make it into work the locals tend not to smile
Happened to me when I first started working in London. I managed to get in from Kent, but people living in london "couldn't get in"

The MD also lived in Kent, and he got in. He was not happy with the locals.

IroningMan

10,154 posts

248 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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98elise said:
jas xjr said:
weird how people who have to drive for an hour make it into work the locals tend not to smile
Happened to me when I first started working in London. I managed to get in from Kent, but people living in london "couldn't get in"

The MD also lived in Kent, and he got in. He was not happy with the locals.
Simillarly. I think enjoying the 'adventure' has something to do with it, too.

However, if it snowed tomorrow I'd take the day off and go sledging.

Office_Monkey

1,967 posts

211 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Don't forget that getting around London when the tubes aren't running can be a PITA. It can turn a 20 min journey into a 2+hr walk if the buses aren't running too.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

189 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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On the rare occasions it's been really bad then the office is usually shut down anyway and we get paid as if it were a normal day.

Jasandjules

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231 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Office_Monkey said:
Don't forget that getting around London when the tubes aren't running can be a PITA. It can turn a 20 min journey into a 2+hr walk if the buses aren't running too.
Yes I've gotten in before people living 6-8 miles away in London as once the Tubes are down that is it..

I've also however gotten into London when a chap who lived one station closer to London "couldn't" as the trains weren't running well due to the weather.....

K12beano

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277 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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crankedup said:
By way of a change the staff member phones the boss and advises boss he is unable to get into work owing to bad weather conditions affecting transport.
Boss: "But you're a snowplough driver!" grumpy

Mojooo

12,805 posts

182 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Rovinghawk said:
To my very simple mind, if they can't get themselves to work it's their problem not their boss'.

They could live nearer work or have arrangements in place in case it gets a bit wintry in winter.

RH
At my palce of work (before I started) the organisation moved the office from a previous location which means some people are a lot further away fro mthe office than when they got the job.

To further complicate matters we have some staff (most) that can work at home and a few that can't.

A couple of years ago there was a bit of a battle but eventually I think they said anyone who couldnt work from home could have the day off.