An Eye for an Eye

[8Ace]

Or, if you're from Saudi Arabia, something rather nastier:

http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=ho...

Sickening.

[mattnunn]

This is PH, I suspect that they'll be many on here who would support this kind of punishment, just as long as it's not in anyway linked to religion.

[y2blade]

.....he won't do it again though will he.

[carreauchompeur]

Nope, barbaric.

[8Ace]

y2blade said:

.....he won't do it again though will he.

Look, I have nothing against harsh sentences, and find some of the terms given to our home-grown scrotes to be laughable. A long stretch in a Saudi Jail cannot be pleasant and I wouldn't have an issue with it. But intentionally paralysing someone? Really?

It's the coldness and premeditated nature of the punishment that I find to be stuff of nightmares.

[y2blade]

8Ace said:

y2blade said:

.....he won't do it again though will he.

Look, I have nothing against harsh sentences, and find some of the terms given to our home-grown scrotes to be laughable. A long stretch in a Saudi Jail cannot be pleasant and I wouldn't have an issue with it. But intentionally paralysing someone? Really?

It's the coldness and premeditated nature of the punishment that I find to be stuff of nightmares.

Are you unfamiliar with Saudi Law/punishment?
Perhaps have a read here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi...


It's a world apart from our way of doing things.

[Raify]

I read somewhere the other day that they behead, then crucify people!

In that order!

[TwigtheWonderkid]

It's funny that when barbarism is linked to sharia law and Islamic crazyness, everyone comes out against it, but when the Jamie Bulger thread was raging on here a couple of months ago, I was in the minority in suggesting that 10 y/o kids should not be executed by the state! And was flamed for being a liberal pinko soft on crime nancy boy.

Funny old world.

[AJS-]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

It's funny that when barbarism is linked to sharia law and Islamic crazyness, everyone comes out against it, but when the Jamie Bulger thread was raging on here a couple of months ago, I was in the minority in suggesting that 10 y/o kids should not be executed by the state! And was flamed for being a liberal pinko soft on crime nancy boy.

Funny old world.

It is, but with a couple of qualifications.

Firstly there's the difference between a judicial execution that is as quick and painless as is practical, and intended to remove from society an individual who is seen as being beyond rehabilitation.

Secondly there's a world of difference between an angry rant on a message board relating to an incredibly heinous and offensive crime, and an actual judicial punishment handed down by a national legal system.

You will always find someone who will support the most deranged and barbaric punishment imaginable, but to find a whole legal system in 2013 that is prepared to sentence a man to be paralysed is just awful beyond belief.

And I say that as someone who is very strongly in favour of much tougher prison sentences and cautiously in favour of capital punishment for the most heinous of crimes. I simply cannot conceive of the level of vicious sadism that would allow someone to ask for, hand down or carry out this sentence.

The religion used as an excuse for this is a sideshow.

[mattnunn]

Buying justice is not exclusive to Arab/Muslim culture either it's pretty popular across the far east, you can buy your way out of capital punishment in Japan, infact it's very common.

[silverous]

I think if you are able to sanction this kind of punishment then in some respects you are no better than the individual who committed the crime, two wrongs don't make a right and all that. It will send a signal but will lower the rest of the worlds estimation of your society.

[Drclarke]

Barbaric and verging on revenge rather than punishment.

[Twincam16]

Drclarke said:

Barbaric and verging on revenge rather than punishment.

Verging on? I'd say it was nothing but revenge!

[Mermaid]

Twincam16 said:

Verging on? I'd say it was nothing but revenge!

And yet some would go along with revenge on Mick Philpott types.

[Deva Link]

y2blade said:

Are you unfamiliar with Saudi Law/punishment?
Perhaps have a read here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi...

It's somewhat surprising that they have any crime. I suppose a lot of offences are just made up though.

[TTwiggy]

Deva Link said:

It's somewhat surprising that they have any crime. I suppose a lot of offences are just made up though.

There's very little evidence to suggest that the severity of punishment influences criminals' thinking when they contemplate committing a crime. When it was common to hang people for stealing bread, people still stole bread.

[zip929]

My sympathy lies with the victim. No second chances for him.

[Einion Yrth]

TTwiggy said:

When it was common to hang people for stealing bread, people still stole bread.

Possibly hang... definitely starve to death. A nice balance.

[Kermit power]

TTwiggy said:

There's very little evidence to suggest that the severity of punishment influences criminals' thinking when they contemplate committing a crime. When it was common to hang people for stealing bread, people still stole bread.

In most cases, however, when people were hanged for stealing bread, they were stealing it because if they didn't they were going to starve, not because they wanted to sell it to fund their lifestyle.

I'm opposed to capital punishment on the grounds that there can always be mistakes, and would also be opposed to this paralysis, as it seems totally unnecessary, but on the other hand if someone does murder another person without mitigating circumstances, or as in this case effectively destroy their life, then I don't see any justification for them ever being released from prison. If they get even so much as another day of liberty, that's effectively society saying that their life is more valuable than that of their victim.

[Deva Link]

Kermit power said:

.....if someone does murder another person without mitigating circumstances, or as in this case effectively destroy their life, then I don't see any justification for them ever being released from prison. If they get even so much as another day of liberty, that's effectively society saying that their life is more valuable than that of their victim.

...and I'm not happy about the expense of keeping them in prison.