UK Honeymoon Couple Attacked in S.A.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/uk-england-bristo...
So fking sad. Hope they find the culprits and chop their limbs off.
Really feel for the couple and their loved ones.
So fking sad. Hope they find the culprits and chop their limbs off.
Really feel for the couple and their loved ones.
thinfourth2 said:
Don't go to africa as life is cheap there
This is very true. Though I think you just need to be careful where you are and what time of day it is.....as you do in many places in the world. Having said that there are parts of London and pretty much every major city in the world I wouldn't walk along the street after dark. No idea what this couple were doing in a township etc but regardless it's a horrendous story.
Interesting Guardian article about this, seems to hint at driver involvement.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/15/south-...
Regrettably, I think this will only get worse for the family when details of the PM are released, poor girl. Terrible story.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/15/south-...
Regrettably, I think this will only get worse for the family when details of the PM are released, poor girl. Terrible story.
Not in the slightest bit surprised by this. You don't go to a township in the day, let alone the night.
Having family from SA he should have known this. The Home Office has very clear warnings, there are warnings in the airports when you arrive. Really have to be terminally stupid to go into a township.
Having family from SA he should have known this. The Home Office has very clear warnings, there are warnings in the airports when you arrive. Really have to be terminally stupid to go into a township.
Timsta said:
Not in the slightest bit surprised by this. You don't go to a township in the day, let alone the night.
Having family from SA he should have known this. The Home Office has very clear warnings, there are warnings in the airports when you arrive. Really have to be terminally stupid to go into a township.
Yes, sadly their decision to go to this particular township proved fatal.Having family from SA he should have known this. The Home Office has very clear warnings, there are warnings in the airports when you arrive. Really have to be terminally stupid to go into a township.
Telegraph said:
“My information is that the couple were at an evening function outside the city in the Winelands area,” he said.
“They were returning back to the city at around 10pm last night when they asked their driver to take them to a popular hot spot in the Gugulethu area (east of Cape Town).”
He said what happened when they left was “very disturbing and horrendous for the husband”.
“His wife was found this morning, just after 7am,” he added.
Police are now interviewing her husband in a bid to identify their attackers, and have appealed to the communities of the Cape Flats townships to come forward with any information.
The Gugulethu township, which is around 10 miles from Cape Town, has a population of more than 80,000.
It is home to a number of thriving restaurants and nightspots including Mzoli’s butchery where tourists and locals can buy meat and then cook it on open braai or barbecues.
It also has live music and DJs playing dance music late into the night.
Despite its popularity it has a reputation for rowdiness and is often the scene of drunkenness and violence.
“They were returning back to the city at around 10pm last night when they asked their driver to take them to a popular hot spot in the Gugulethu area (east of Cape Town).”
He said what happened when they left was “very disturbing and horrendous for the husband”.
“His wife was found this morning, just after 7am,” he added.
Police are now interviewing her husband in a bid to identify their attackers, and have appealed to the communities of the Cape Flats townships to come forward with any information.
The Gugulethu township, which is around 10 miles from Cape Town, has a population of more than 80,000.
It is home to a number of thriving restaurants and nightspots including Mzoli’s butchery where tourists and locals can buy meat and then cook it on open braai or barbecues.
It also has live music and DJs playing dance music late into the night.
Despite its popularity it has a reputation for rowdiness and is often the scene of drunkenness and violence.
I was going to ask this question in the South Africa subforum, but it seems very quiet in there so didnt bother.
But why in gods name would anyone 'choose' to live in South Africa?
Most of it is now on google streetview, and apart from a few small towns in the Western cape it looks like hell on earth. That is to say while it looks stunning naturally, peoples houses are, almost without exception, like prisons. It must be like going from safehouse to safehouse. From a secure office, to secure shopping malls, to secure homes. All artificial and built around security. Its like some kind of self imposed 24 hour lockdown.
No amount of money is worth that kind of life surely. Im not rich, but i like to go out for a walk everyday, often on my own, without fear of being attacked. Money cant buy that.
But why in gods name would anyone 'choose' to live in South Africa?
Most of it is now on google streetview, and apart from a few small towns in the Western cape it looks like hell on earth. That is to say while it looks stunning naturally, peoples houses are, almost without exception, like prisons. It must be like going from safehouse to safehouse. From a secure office, to secure shopping malls, to secure homes. All artificial and built around security. Its like some kind of self imposed 24 hour lockdown.
No amount of money is worth that kind of life surely. Im not rich, but i like to go out for a walk everyday, often on my own, without fear of being attacked. Money cant buy that.
12gauge said:
I was going to ask this question in the South Africa subforum, but it seems very quiet in there so didnt bother.
But why in gods name would anyone 'choose' to live in South Africa?
Most of it is now on google streetview, and apart from a few small towns in the Western cape it looks like hell on earth. That is to say while it looks stunning naturally, peoples houses are, almost without exception, like prisons. It must be like going from safehouse to safehouse. From a secure office, to secure shopping malls, to secure homes. All artificial and built around security. Its like some kind of self imposed 24 hour lockdown.
No amount of money is worth that kind of life surely. Im not rich, but i like to go out for a walk everyday, often on my own, without fear of being attacked. Money cant buy that.
I think that's a fairly harsh view of it. I've been to Cape Town twice and never felt threatened...admittedly I was very sensible about where I went and at what time and left all expensive watches etc at home in a safe...but I do that whenever I go on holiday. You can definitely go out for a walk on your own and not feel threatened. But why in gods name would anyone 'choose' to live in South Africa?
Most of it is now on google streetview, and apart from a few small towns in the Western cape it looks like hell on earth. That is to say while it looks stunning naturally, peoples houses are, almost without exception, like prisons. It must be like going from safehouse to safehouse. From a secure office, to secure shopping malls, to secure homes. All artificial and built around security. Its like some kind of self imposed 24 hour lockdown.
No amount of money is worth that kind of life surely. Im not rich, but i like to go out for a walk everyday, often on my own, without fear of being attacked. Money cant buy that.
You are right about home security though. You have to have an alarm connected to armed patrols and proper physical security.
Timsta said:
Not in the slightest bit surprised by this. You don't go to a township in the day, let alone the night.
Having family from SA he should have known this. The Home Office has very clear warnings, there are warnings in the airports when you arrive. Really have to be terminally stupid to go into a township.
Maybe he should have known it, but the problem was that they were trying to visit a restaurant there featured in "Jamie" magazine. And goodness only knows why Jamie went there, but he did, and probably didn't imagine that anybody would actually be daft enough to go there too, at least not without a fully armed entourage.Having family from SA he should have known this. The Home Office has very clear warnings, there are warnings in the airports when you arrive. Really have to be terminally stupid to go into a township.
Hopefully it will help people understand the true risks of international travel, and to be honest I would think that South Africa was less risky than a great number of other places.
stitched said:
Seriously one of the top spots in the world to visit or live in, and I speak from experience.
As do the millions of saffers who get the fk out of the racist sthole as soon as they can find work elsewhere.Plenty of pretty places in the world, just that a lot of them you are less likely to end up with a burning tyre for a necklace.
Bing o said:
stitched said:
Seriously one of the top spots in the world to visit or live in, and I speak from experience.
As do the millions of saffers who get the fk out of the racist sthole as soon as they can find work elsewhere.Plenty of pretty places in the world, just that a lot of them you are less likely to end up with a burning tyre for a necklace.
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