Milliband Speech
Discussion
blade runner said:
turbobloke said:
The opinion polls of the day had put Labour up to 20 points ahead, and even exit polling said that John Major would lose to Neil Kinnock. The result was 42% for Major, 34% for Kinnock.
Please, please let this be the case again... I hope that ultimately, it will come down to the economy and who the electorate trusts to keep us going on the road to recovery. Balls as chancellor - really? Who could possibly think that this would work out well for the UK?As we get closer to the election and the two Eds are more and more in the media then the public will see them for what they are, hear the nonsense they speak and then reject them. Its not just style that will cost Labour the election, but substance too. Few people that I know (even Labour voters) swallow the ardent lefty line that "it was the bankers wot dunnit" in terms of the economic crash. The utter inability of Balls and co to admit their major role in what happened will be their undoing.
Half arsed attempts to suggest that Labour will be prudent next time will find very little traction with an electorate that is just that little bit more economically savvy than last time. And lets face it, the coalition have done a half decent job on the economy thus far....people know that, (at least the people with a vote know that - the dog on a string brigade like FOPPO will always want to believe otherwise. )
Also, times are a changing at the BBC. Its no longer QUITE so lefty sympathetic in its presentation of the political agenda. (its not yet unbiased by any means, but its better than it was) Just go and listen to how the BBC opined on Balls's (400million) "child benefit policy to balance the books (100 billion) " initiative.. - the sarcasm was palpable.
Anyhoo, the important thing is to get everyone out to vote - and not for UKIP!
Lib dems will be toast though.
turbobloke said:
The opinion polls of the day had put Labour up to 20 points ahead, and even exit polling said that John Major would lose to Neil Kinnock. The result was 42% for Major, 34% for Kinnock.
I hope you are correct.I believe the pollsters blamed something called the Shy Tory Factor for that one.
A bit like what we've just seen in the recent Scottish referendum perhaps where many 'no' voters kept their cards close to their chest prior to the vote.
BlackLabel said:
turbobloke said:
The opinion polls of the day had put Labour up to 20 points ahead, and even exit polling said that John Major would lose to Neil Kinnock. The result was 42% for Major, 34% for Kinnock.
I hope you are correct.I believe the pollsters blamed something called the Shy Tory Factor for that one.
A bit like what we've just seen in the recent Scottish referendum perhaps where many 'no' voters kept their cards close to their chest prior to the vote.
turbobloke said:
BlackLabel said:
turbobloke said:
The opinion polls of the day had put Labour up to 20 points ahead, and even exit polling said that John Major would lose to Neil Kinnock. The result was 42% for Major, 34% for Kinnock.
I hope you are correct.I believe the pollsters blamed something called the Shy Tory Factor for that one.
A bit like what we've just seen in the recent Scottish referendum perhaps where many 'no' voters kept their cards close to their chest prior to the vote.
Heard some of it, but had to turn it off, just a load of rhetorical drivel that'll sound good to the galleries. How many times did he mention tennis playing oligarchs, was thinking it'd make a good drinking game.
Anyway I think he's labours ian duncan smith, the man who didn't take one step back and is running the party in the absence of anyone with serious intentions, who if they exist in the post-blair vacuum is keeping their powder dry until a few more of the great unwashed forget just how badly they messed up.
Anyway I think he's labours ian duncan smith, the man who didn't take one step back and is running the party in the absence of anyone with serious intentions, who if they exist in the post-blair vacuum is keeping their powder dry until a few more of the great unwashed forget just how badly they messed up.
Sir Humphrey said:
They had a surplus in more years than the Tories ever managed under Thatcher and Major.
wow, proof positive that many will see exactly what they wish to...Morningside said:
Lamont. What a tosser he was. I remember my mortgage going up and up.
The 16 September 1992 Black Wednesday base rate increase was 5 points from 10% to 12% to 15% under Major and Lamont, rates then went back to 10% the next day after an announcement that it would be 12%. By the time Bliar and Brown were in office in 1997 the rate had gone down to around 6%.Compare with the base rate increase of 7 points from October 1977 to April 1979 with Callaghan as PM and Denis Healy as Chancellor. There was a period with a rise of 9 points at one time. This overall hike was for longer than a day.
Apr 1979 12.00
Mar 1979 13.00
Feb 1979 14.00
Nov 1978 12.50
Jun 1978 10.00
May 1978 9.000
May 1978 8.750
Apr 1978 7.500
Jan 1978 6.500
Nov 1977 7.000
Oct 1977 5.000
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13971770
Please Tell me that was edited to make him sound like a complete knob!!
Please Tell me that was edited to make him sound like a complete knob!!
Jimboka said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13971770
Please Tell me that was edited to make him sound like a complete knob!!
I wish I could help you........ But it's genuine. Please Tell me that was edited to make him sound like a complete knob!!
I watched it thought it was insincere.
I saw that Ms Cooper woman - jeez. When she trotted out the all too brief mentions of ISIS and blah de blah you can see they don't have a clue how to deal with it.
I'm no dies in the wool CMD fan but Labour are lucky in that they simply follow him/ oppose him/ agree with him partly. They will be well stuffed if they were in power having to deal with it.
Home grown radicalism is going to be a big problem shortly. I doubt that Labour have a clue how to confront it except with a " well we will clamp down on it but if we think its going to remotely upset some Islamist people then we wont " approach.
Tough times are coming and tough decisions will have to be made. I simply don't think the Labour Party are poised to be able to make them. Oh and I don't trust them pn the NHS either. I think they will just throw shed loads of money at it and not fix the wastage.
I saw that Ms Cooper woman - jeez. When she trotted out the all too brief mentions of ISIS and blah de blah you can see they don't have a clue how to deal with it.
I'm no dies in the wool CMD fan but Labour are lucky in that they simply follow him/ oppose him/ agree with him partly. They will be well stuffed if they were in power having to deal with it.
Home grown radicalism is going to be a big problem shortly. I doubt that Labour have a clue how to confront it except with a " well we will clamp down on it but if we think its going to remotely upset some Islamist people then we wont " approach.
Tough times are coming and tough decisions will have to be made. I simply don't think the Labour Party are poised to be able to make them. Oh and I don't trust them pn the NHS either. I think they will just throw shed loads of money at it and not fix the wastage.
Zod said:
He's that worried about the NHS, he decided to take up a room with a hospital bed in it all day to conduct his f
king interviews!Way to go, Ed !!
Cobnapint said:
Zod said:
He's that worried about the NHS, he decided to take up a room with a hospital bed in it all day to conduct his fking interviews!Way to go, Ed !!
Zod said:
"The global financial crisis caused our deficit".Huh?
Symbolica said:
Zod said:
"The global financial crisis caused our deficit".Huh?
Labour's red rose tinted specs and economic illiteracy make for a fine mix. They're feeding the rump with the same carp it's been sold already, and is only too willing to buy.
The Labour government ran a budget deficit after 2001, the crunch and crash didn't arrive until 2007.
The UK's ability to manage the crunch and recession was hindered by Brown the Big Spender spunking away like billyo.
turbobloke said:
The Labour government ran a budget deficit after 2001, the crunch and crash didn't arrive until 2007.
The UK's ability to manage the crunch and recession was hindered by Brown the Big Spender spunking away like billyo.
"The wise man fixes his roof while the sun is shining". Confuscious?The UK's ability to manage the crunch and recession was hindered by Brown the Big Spender spunking away like billyo.
During the good times they should have stashed some money away for the bad times- they didn't. If you spend more than you earn during the good times, god help you when those good times end. This is so simple, even socialists should understand it.
Zod said:
My god that's painful to watch. I almost feel sorry for him.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff