Shots fired in Munich shopping centre?

[type-r]

Twiglets said:

Does anyone know if this is genuine? Can't see why someone would be filming him.
https://mobile.twitter.com/NUFCinnocent/status/756...

Yes it is genuine. Has been posted on the BBC live feed aswell. I can only imagine he has seen the gunman with the firearm on his shoulder prior to whipping out his phone.

[Mr_B]

Twiglets said:

Does anyone know if this is genuine? Can't see why someone would be filming him.
https://mobile.twitter.com/NUFCinnocent/status/756...

BBC just broadcast this. The camerman may have stared filming in general when hearing or seeing something else happen, as in the full video you can see people fleeing a shop when this guy pulls a gun.

[tannhauser]

WinstonWolf said:

I've just re-read the Rivers of Blood speech, it seems strangely prophetic of late.

Indeed it does.

[croyde]

Twiglets said:

Does anyone know if this is genuine? Can't see why someone would be filming him.
https://mobile.twitter.com/NUFCinnocent/status/756...

Same video on BBC site. Was gonna say that handguns are not the usual Jihadi tool.

Those people are only feet away, kids as well. Awful.

[Twiglets]

type-r said:

Yes it is genuine. Has been posted on the BBC live feed aswell. I can only imagine he has seen the gunman with the firearm on his shoulder prior to whipping out his phone.

I hadn't thought of that, obviously eyesight is a lot clearer than the video!

[Stickyfinger]

Not a chance in hell that our plod could deploy as many armed teams as quickly......worrying

[jmorgan]

Much as instant media is helpful, how much does it help the attacker?

[baldy1926]

BertieWooster said:

German media now reporting a second shooting at Stachus which is near Marienplatz.

There is also footage on Twitter of a man shooting at people outside of OEZ.

I dont do twitter is there any why other than signing up of seeing updates etc

[BertieWooster]

baldy1926 said:

I dont do twitter is there any why other than signing up of seeing updates etc

Just Google twitter #Munich. You should then be able to go to Twitter's site without needing to sign up.

[mickk]

jmorgan said:

Much as instant media is helpful, how much does it help the attacker?

The German police have tweeted not to broadcast photos or videos.

[dudleybloke]

I think they attack on a Friday because in their eyes all good Muslims will be at prayer so won't be out shopping.

The whabist doctrine is a cancer growing on the face of the civilised world.
Sticking a band aid on doesn't stop cancer so the west needs to remove the problem at its root to stop further growth.

Things might be hard for a while if the Saudis play hardball with their oil and cash but the matter at hand is more important than peoples Bank balances.

An alternative that should be immediately investigated is swapping our oil business to Venezuela, they need the cash too so we can make a deal.

We have to treat Wahabism like we did with the Nazis back when they posed a threat

[Digga]

dudleybloke said:

I think they attack on a Friday because in their eyes all good Muslims will be at prayer so won't be out shopping.

The whabist doctrine is a cancer growing on the face of the civilised world.
Sticking a band aid on doesn't stop cancer so the west needs to remove the problem at its root to stop further growth.

Things might be hard for a while if the Saudis play hardball with their oil and cash but the matter at Hans is more important than peoples Bank balances.

An alternative that should be immediately investigated is swapping our oil business to Venezuela, they need the cash too so we can make a deal.

We have to treat Wahabism like we did with the Nazis back when they posed a threat

An interesting take.

Sadly, one thing which is not helping security forces tackle extremism is the ongoing, uncontrolled movement of migrants.

[Mr_B]

Elroy Blue said:

Video of the gunman has him talking German and he doesn't look Middle Eastern. Worth noting that today is the anniversary of Anders Breivik atrocity.

I think you maybe onto something here. BBC showing another video of him on a car park saying he is a German.

[Fittster]

Digga said:

Digga said:

Fittster said:

What is your solution? I'm sure you have the confidence to post your views.

What's yours?

Well?

I'm not one posting that's a solution.

Wayne E Edge said:

"We are not going to solve this, ever, tiptoeing around...'everybody knows what but we're not allowed to say'

I don't know what this solution. Maybe you or Wayne could tell me.

[BertieWooster]

German news site n24.de has just said there may be a possible third shooting near Isartorplatz.

Main train station (Hauptbahnhof) has also been evacuated.

[swimd]

there's a video making the rounds where a munich citizen is shouting predictable insults from his high-rise flat at one of the assailants on the parking deck. he even responds with "i was born in germany".
the argument goes on for a while and ends with shots in the general direction of the person who took the video...

[ian in lancs]

tannhauser said:

ian in lancs said:

SilverSpur said:

Early reports of Nice attack were 10 dead. Then 24. Then 50.

Hard to say yet where this one is going.

And German police routinely carry guns. When this happens here God knows how long until an armed response turns up. If it happens in Southampton or Bath or York or Preston will armed police even be in the same city?

Seems armed police are already in Preston - few weeks ago I was in a petrol station filling up and a police transit pulled up and one officer with gun, vest and other toys went inside for snacks! I suspect there are a lot of armed response officers behind the scenes.

Snackbar, perchance?!

ETA: Too early to joke, but what else can we do?!

Not sure I get the joke but I was pleased to see it and admired the willingness to enter life threatening situations to protect the public and maintain law and order. If you are one I thank you.

[Digga]

Fittster said:

I don't know what this solution. Maybe you or Wayne could tell me.

its confirmed as a terrorist attack. I'd say all of us who don't want to live like this need to accept things must change.

[GG89]

There are a fair amount of people saying it was white far-right shooters. I can't get my head around that at all - shooting up a McDonalds? Wouldn't they target a mosque or something, I know this is all pure speculation at this point, though.

[CAPP0]

WinstonWolf said:

I've just re-read the Rivers of Blood speech, it seems strangely prophetic of late.

It's been prophetic since 1968.