UK Honeymoon Couple Attacked in S.A.

[madala]

audidoody said:

I lived in Jhb, Hillbrow for a year in the late '70's. I went back on a business trip about 10 years ago.

Imagine that Knightsbridge has become Mogadishu ...

.....'spect you know "late night Als" well then.....great steaks....

[okgo]

Fookin prawns

[Pesty]

[Puggit]

[Puggit]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-11769...

So apparently they DID decide to drive through the township - but apparently it wasn't reckless.

As posted above, this was death by suicide. As a frequent visitor to SA, I would never, ever, ever, ever have left the N2 to check out the night scene (or even the day scene) in a township.

[Deva Link]

Puggit said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-11769...

So apparently they DID decide to drive through the township - but apparently it wasn't reckless.

Me thinks (that maybe) he doth protest too much.

[TonyToniTone]

Jimbeaux said:

Muntu said:

TonyToniTone said:

Jimbeaux said:

Used to be such a nice place I hear.

Jimbeaux said:

IIRC, it certainly was far from a sthole then; what changed?.....oh, yea.

People like you lost power that's what happened.

Precicely.

Unfortunately this has resulted in South Africa's rapid descent to third world sthole status, in line with the rest of the continent.

"People like us". Other racists took over but that seems to be OK with TonyToniTone because they are the "correct racists".

It's obvious by your various post on this and other forums that you place a higher value on being white and you are making the same noises as Eugene Terreblan hence the people like you.

I guess you didn't commemorate or even notice the 50th anniversary of desegregation - you probaly think your state was better segregated. Anyone no form of racism is good just a shame you can't see that.

[Jimbeaux]

TonyToniTone said:

Jimbeaux said:

Muntu said:

TonyToniTone said:

Jimbeaux said:

Used to be such a nice place I hear.

Jimbeaux said:

IIRC, it certainly was far from a sthole then; what changed?.....oh, yea.

People like you lost power that's what happened.

Precicely.

Unfortunately this has resulted in South Africa's rapid descent to third world sthole status, in line with the rest of the continent.

"People like us". Other racists took over but that seems to be OK with TonyToniTone because they are the "correct racists".

It's obvious by your various post on this and other forums that you place a higher value on being white and you are making the same noises as Eugene Terreblan hence the people like you.

I guess you didn't commemorate or even notice the 50th anniversary of desegregation - you probaly think your state was better segregated. Anyone no form of racism is good just a shame you can't see that.

It is a further shame you assume too much as I am married to a minority.

[Traveller]

In SA, a simple rule to remember, you either the hunter or the prey, as a tourist you have a nice big target in the middle of your forehead. Going into Gugulethu, Tembisa, Soweto or Hillbrow without knowing diddly squat about the place will be a life shorting experience. SA is not for the faint hearted. Violence is endemic.

People in the UK complain about crime, wait till you have seen the aftermath of a farm invasion, daughters raped in front of parents, wife raped and shot, husband tied up and shot after watching the subhumans toy with his family, and it not even making the news. The indescribable horror of listening to a white child protection officer having to explain to a black African mother that her 1 year old daughter has been raped, and seeing the effect it has on both of them. This has nothing to do with racism or apartheid, it is barbarism.

South Africa, both politically and socially is becoming the next Nigeria, rich in mineral wealth but due to corruption, nepotism and bad leadership will fail its most vulnerable. The moneyed elite have merely changed colour, it is not black and white any more, it is have and have not. Look at the leader and wonder what his less sophisticated acolytes are like.

I have family members in the ANC, and the grass roots can see it, but the upper echelons don't care and are too busy filling their pockets.

Edited by Traveller on Tuesday 16th November 22:23

[Jasandjules]

Jimbeaux said:

Jasandjules said:

My only question here is why did they let the bloke go (a fellow who can ID them) then kill the wife?

Are you thinking a setup by him to kill his wife for some reason?

Well, the bottom line is this:

He was attacked by two guys who were going to rape/kill his wife. They did so. YET they let him go without a scratch? Why if they were going to rob and kill, did they not just kill him too?? Surely he defended his new wife in some way? Is it not a lot easier for them that way?

Now, someone above said he was quite wealthy, so I guess my next question is was he wearing nice clothes/watch/shoes? Why were these not taken?

Basically, I don't understand why some people who were going to rob him and presumably rape and murder his wife, let him go unharmed? It doesn't make much sense to me. It is not exactly a nice area full of lovely executives with their 2.4 children, mortgage and cars is it now? I mean, South Africa that I know (by way of talking to people who have lived there, I've never been) is that robbery/burglary tends to occur at the end of a gun, and quite often people are shot dead during crimes.

[FarleyRusk]

Jasandjules said:

Jimbeaux said:

Jasandjules said:

My only question here is why did they let the bloke go (a fellow who can ID them) then kill the wife?

Are you thinking a setup by him to kill his wife for some reason?

Well, the bottom line is this:

He was attacked by two guys who were going to rape/kill his wife. They did so. YET they let him go without a scratch? Why if they were going to rob and kill, did they not just kill him too?? Surely he defended his new wife in some way? Is it not a lot easier for them that way?

Now, someone above said he was quite wealthy, so I guess my next question is was he wearing nice clothes/watch/shoes? Why were these not taken?

Basically, I don't understand why some people who were going to rob him and presumably rape and murder his wife, let him go unharmed? It doesn't make much sense to me. It is not exactly a nice area full of lovely executives with their 2.4 children, mortgage and cars is it now? I mean, South Africa that I know (by way of talking to people who have lived there, I've never been) is that robbery/burglary tends to occur at the end of a gun, and quite often people are shot dead during crimes.

I'm going to hell for this, but its dark and a black guy you've never seen before is in your face. Are you sure you can ID him if asked? Went to SA and did a 3 week fly-drive in 2004. Lovely country, but we felt very unsafe so we won't ever be going back. If I wanted to live in a room with guards outside and bars on the window I'd go and steal something.

[Bing o]

Jimbeaux said:

Bing o said:

TonyToniTone said:

Jimbeaux said:

Used to be such a nice place I hear.

Jimbeaux said:

IIRC, it certainly was far from a sthole then; what changed?.....oh, yea.

People like you lost power that's what happened.

Jim just misses people calling him "Masser" of a morning.

I think it's all our fault for not keeping the darkies in their place, what ho!

Big assumption on your part. Even ironic seeing as my wife is a racial minority.

Does she wear a white pinny and call you masser Jim?

[Colonial]

Bing o said:

Jimbeaux said:

Bing o said:

TonyToniTone said:

Jimbeaux said:

Used to be such a nice place I hear.

Jimbeaux said:

IIRC, it certainly was far from a sthole then; what changed?.....oh, yea.

People like you lost power that's what happened.

Jim just misses people calling him "Masser" of a morning.

I think it's all our fault for not keeping the darkies in their place, what ho!

Big assumption on your part. Even ironic seeing as my wife is a racial minority.

Does she wear a white pinny and call you masser Jim?

Only if he asks nicely

[Jimbeaux]

Jasandjules said:

Jimbeaux said:

Jasandjules said:

My only question here is why did they let the bloke go (a fellow who can ID them) then kill the wife?

Are you thinking a setup by him to kill his wife for some reason?

Well, the bottom line is this:

He was attacked by two guys who were going to rape/kill his wife. They did so. YET they let him go without a scratch? Why if they were going to rob and kill, did they not just kill him too?? Surely he defended his new wife in some way? Is it not a lot easier for them that way?

Now, someone above said he was quite wealthy, so I guess my next question is was he wearing nice clothes/watch/shoes? Why were these not taken?

Basically, I don't understand why some people who were going to rob him and presumably rape and murder his wife, let him go unharmed? It doesn't make much sense to me. It is not exactly a nice area full of lovely executives with their 2.4 children, mortgage and cars is it now? I mean, South Africa that I know (by way of talking to people who have lived there, I've never been) is that robbery/burglary tends to occur at the end of a gun, and quite often people are shot dead during crimes.

I agree, it sound fishy.

[Jimbeaux]

Bing o said:

Jimbeaux said:

Bing o said:

TonyToniTone said:

Jimbeaux said:

Used to be such a nice place I hear.

Jimbeaux said:

IIRC, it certainly was far from a sthole then; what changed?.....oh, yea.

People like you lost power that's what happened.

Jim just misses people calling him "Masser" of a morning.

I think it's all our fault for not keeping the darkies in their place, what ho!

Big assumption on your part. Even ironic seeing as my wife is a racial minority.

Does she wear a white pinny and call you masser Jim?

That's pretty low of you to speak of my wife in that way; that is not like you. No, she is an equal partner in our marriage, more like a senior partner.

[Jimbeaux]

Colonial said:

Bing o said:

Jimbeaux said:

Bing o said:

TonyToniTone said:

Jimbeaux said:

Used to be such a nice place I hear.

Jimbeaux said:

IIRC, it certainly was far from a sthole then; what changed?.....oh, yea.

People like you lost power that's what happened.

Jim just misses people calling him "Masser" of a morning.

I think it's all our fault for not keeping the darkies in their place, what ho!

Big assumption on your part. Even ironic seeing as my wife is a racial minority.

Does she wear a white pinny and call you masser Jim?

Only if he asks nicely

Not even then. I find it telling, that you al like to label me neatly as a racist and then, upon finding my wife is a minority, resort to calling her some sort of subserveant. I would die for that woman without a minutes hesitation. ETA: If I am ever at a BT&P event, see to it that I don't see you two. If you think that's a bluff, then all the better for me.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 17th November 02:22

[Colonial]

Jimbeaux said:

Colonial said:

Bing o said:

Jimbeaux said:

Bing o said:

TonyToniTone said:

Jimbeaux said:

Used to be such a nice place I hear.

Jimbeaux said:

IIRC, it certainly was far from a sthole then; what changed?.....oh, yea.

People like you lost power that's what happened.

Jim just misses people calling him "Masser" of a morning.

I think it's all our fault for not keeping the darkies in their place, what ho!

Big assumption on your part. Even ironic seeing as my wife is a racial minority.

Does she wear a white pinny and call you masser Jim?

Only if he asks nicely

Not even then. I find it telling, that you al like to label me neatly as a racist and then, upon finding my wife is a minority, resort to calling her some sort of subserveant. I would die for that woman without a minutes hesitation. ETA: If I am ever at a BT&P event, see to it that I don't see you two. If you think that's a bluff, then all the better for me.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 17th November 02:22

Mate, it was a joke. Well, at least my part was.

Y'know - wearing a custom for kinky games but only if you ask nicely implying some kind of level of equality.

You like dishing st out, but when someone makes a small joke at your expense you really do throw the toys out of the pram, don't you?

[Jimbeaux]

Colonial said:

Jimbeaux said:

Colonial said:

Bing o said:

Jimbeaux said:

Bing o said:

TonyToniTone said:

Jimbeaux said:

Used to be such a nice place I hear.

Jimbeaux said:

IIRC, it certainly was far from a sthole then; what changed?.....oh, yea.

People like you lost power that's what happened.

Jim just misses people calling him "Masser" of a morning.

I think it's all our fault for not keeping the darkies in their place, what ho!

Big assumption on your part. Even ironic seeing as my wife is a racial minority.

Does she wear a white pinny and call you masser Jim?

Only if he asks nicely

Not even then. I find it telling, that you al like to label me neatly as a racist and then, upon finding my wife is a minority, resort to calling her some sort of subserveant. I would die for that woman without a minutes hesitation. ETA: If I am ever at a BT&P event, see to it that I don't see you two. If you think that's a bluff, then all the better for me.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 17th November 02:22

Mate, it was a joke. Well, at least my part was.

Y'know - wearing a custom for kinky games but only if you ask nicely implying some kind of level of equality.

You like dishing st out, but when someone makes a small joke at your expense you really do throw the toys out of the pram, don't you?

I can see your part as a joke; I apologize for lumping you in with Bingo. No, I can take it until it hurts, about anything but my wife or mother. I won't take that from any man nor will I give it. As far as abuse to me, there are no limits.

[Bing o]

Jimbeaux said:

Not even then. I find it telling, that you al like to label me neatly as a racist and then, upon finding my wife is a minority, resort to calling her some sort of subserveant. I would die for that woman without a minutes hesitation. ETA: If I am ever at a BT&P event, see to it that I don't see you two. If you think that's a bluff, then all the better for me.

And I find it telling that you resort to threats of violence.

I am a minority going out with a majority - does that make it any better?


(And I should have put a smiley on my previous post - my rather dry sense of humour doesn't translate very well on t'internets)

[Jimbeaux]

Bing o said:

Jimbeaux said:

Not even then. I find it telling, that you al like to label me neatly as a racist and then, upon finding my wife is a minority, resort to calling her some sort of subserveant. I would die for that woman without a minutes hesitation. ETA: If I am ever at a BT&P event, see to it that I don't see you two. If you think that's a bluff, then all the better for me.

And I find it telling that you resort to threats of violence.

I am a minority going out with a majority - does that make it any better?


(And I should have put a smiley on my previous post - my rather dry sense of humour doesn't translate very well on t'internets)

My apologies then.