UK Honeymoon Couple Attacked in S.A.
Discussion
Pints said:
It's very easy to make statements like these with hindsight. Not everybody copes well, or makes sensible or rationale decisions, in moments of extreme stress.
As a daft example, when I was a really young lad (not yet in double-digits agewise), our family was woken at 4am to the sound of an explosion and a red glow in the sky which could only be coming from one of our immediate neighbours.
While Old Man Pints dashed outside in dressing gown to help, my mother ran around the house like a headless chicken until I told her to calm down and phone the emergency services.
Moments of stress and duress are dealt with very differently by people and, what would seem like a logical and obvious decision to make in the cold light of day and with benefit of hindsight, may not be the decision taken at the time.
Indeed. He could have plucked the feathers from a pintard and gone dancing on the motorway. As a daft example, when I was a really young lad (not yet in double-digits agewise), our family was woken at 4am to the sound of an explosion and a red glow in the sky which could only be coming from one of our immediate neighbours.
While Old Man Pints dashed outside in dressing gown to help, my mother ran around the house like a headless chicken until I told her to calm down and phone the emergency services.
Moments of stress and duress are dealt with very differently by people and, what would seem like a logical and obvious decision to make in the cold light of day and with benefit of hindsight, may not be the decision taken at the time.
But as you allude to in your example, people tend to default to either practical behaviour or hysterical during shocking events.
Glassman said:
What about this very brief mention of SD's sexuality? And that there's a male prozzie who claims SD is/was a client?
Could drugs have been involved? Withdrawing cash, dealing with the locals... or maybe there was a sexual motive - she had sussed out his liking of men so he offered to take her down town to show her how he can take a length.
Lowlife in shock opportunist grab for money was the outcome I seem to recall. Could drugs have been involved? Withdrawing cash, dealing with the locals... or maybe there was a sexual motive - she had sussed out his liking of men so he offered to take her down town to show her how he can take a length.
Edited by Glassman on Friday 30th March 11:16
capitalist said:
Mermaid said:
The implication is of something that is not routine - the mother would detect that in the voice.
I thought the mother said that "she was not worried at the time"Mermaid said:
Fair enough - my interpretation was that the mother had sensed something was afoot, rather than just happy talk about the honeymoon.
Mother in law in 'not approving of daughter's husband' shocker? 
As we've all said, the big facts are completely missing and all we've got to go on are little things that various parties have warped to fit their agenda.
Pretty sure he wouldn't get a fair trial regardless.
Glassman said:
Any views on the SD's family/friends/parents not defending his corner?
I'm sure they are but I'm also sure that they are saying nothing to the media under guidance from good solicitors. They've employed legal and Clifford to handle that and I'm sure don't want anyone saying anything that a twisted media could distort or misinterpret. His family cannot possibly say anything that can help him - unless they have the key piece of evidence thatno one knows about that proves he is innocent.
They could try and go for sympathy but that is a risky game considering all the sympathy is with the brides family.
Long story short, anything they do say is almost likely to be twist by the media - so better to keep mouths shut.
They could try and go for sympathy but that is a risky game considering all the sympathy is with the brides family.
Long story short, anything they do say is almost likely to be twist by the media - so better to keep mouths shut.
Mermaid said:
DonkeyApple said:
Pretty sure he wouldn't get a fair trial regardless.
But if there isn't a smoking gun, and with the media/UK interest, very difficult to find him guilty. rover 623gsi said:
Mermaid said:
But if there isn't a smoking gun, and with the media/UK interest, very difficult to find him guilty.
I don't know whether or he's innocent or guilty, but why would a South African care about, or even be that aware of, the British media?Pints said:
Perhaps it's too early in the morning for me but why would it be difficult? Not sure I follow your logic.
If there isn't a smoking gun, and he is convicted (& he would not have been here), it reeks of politics of a kind the UK Government could not allow to happen to one of its citizens, and therefore get embroiled IMO.Also I doubt the SA Government can cope with the negative world wide publicity if the conviction is not sound. Perhaps I am being naive
Mermaid said:
If there isn't a smoking gun, and he is convicted (& he would not have been here), it reeks of politics of a kind the UK Government could not allow to happen to one of its citizens, and therefore get embroiled IMO.
Also I doubt the SA Government can cope with the negative world wide publicity if t casehec conviction is not sound. Perhaps I am being naive
Ah. In which case I agree. Also I doubt the SA Government can cope with the negative world wide publicity if t casehec conviction is not sound. Perhaps I am being naive
Pints said:
Further personal attacks on SD.
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Another-gay...
A televised trial, if ever there is one, would be OJ all over again - leather gloves all.http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Another-gay...
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