Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result

[JawKnee]

CaptainSlow said:

Rubbish. In actual fact people are more enthusiastic about leaving than before now they realise the apocalypse hasn't happened. Project fear failed and now it has been proven to by lies.

Given another vote Leave would have a greater margin.

Not a chance

[anonymous-user]

JawKnee said:

Yep. The period since the vote has not been great for this country. A lot of people have lost their appetite for leaving.

"A lot" hmmm that's that then obviously

[alfie2244]

don'tbesilly said:

You've just confirmed what many people think, you do live on a different planet in a completely different universe.
You're certifiable and should be sectioned for the sake of humanity!

Indeed so why spend £ trillions on looking for life on far flung planets.......perhaps JK recently surfaced from the depths of the Mariana Trench.

Edited by alfie2244 on Thursday 3rd November 14:48

[CaptainSlow]

JawKnee said:

Not a chance

Well, we'll never find out. Article 50 will be enacted after a bit of debating in Parliament.

[B'stard Child]

FN2TypeR said:

Part of me hopes that Parliament votes it down just so I can witness the potential political fallout

Interesting times - very interesting

[don4l]

Dr Doofenshmirtz said:

I voted leave, but I have to be honest and say I'd vote remain if asked again.

So, why did you vote Leave and what has changed?

[AC43]

Guybrush said:

So governments aren't obliged to carry through what the people want.

They have a responsibility to listen the the opinion poll and then calculate the real risks and benefits.

If the risks significantly outweigh the benefits they should proceed accordingly.

The referendum itself is not legally binding and a decision of this magnitude should of course be voted on in the houses.

[B'stard Child]

alfie2244 said:

don'tbesilly said:

You've just confirmed what many people think, you do live on a different planet in a completely different universe.
You're certifiable and should be sectioned for the sake of humanity!

Indeed so why spent £ trillions on looking for life on far flung planets.......perhaps JK recently surfaced from the depths of the Mariana Trench.

I've not met him - but I think he'd have a happier face

[M3333]

JawKnee said:

andymadmak said:

JawKnee said:

So you want to keep rerunning it until you get the answer you want? You lost, get over it.

Thats a little bit rich coming from someone who does not accept the outcome of the Referendum...

I think that Art 50 will still be triggered, it's just that the MPs will now have to vote for it rather than simply act on the outcome of the Referendum that they (the MPs) voted 10:1 to grant to the people.
Failure to follow the will of the majority, no matter how fancy pants the justification, will be enormously damaging to parliament and society in the UK.

I don't think it would be all that damaging. I know many people who voted leave but have since changed their mind. There isn't the appetite there was 6 months ago after seeing the bad things which have happened as a result of the vote.

My area voted heavily for remain but the MP was for leave. That MP will be in a very tough position when it comes to voting in Parliament.

[don'tbesilly]

B'stard Child said:

don'tbesilly said:

JawKnee said:

andymadmak said:

JawKnee said:

So you want to keep rerunning it until you get the answer you want? You lost, get over it.

Thats a little bit rich coming from someone who does not accept the outcome of the Referendum...

I think that Art 50 will still be triggered, it's just that the MPs will now have to vote for it rather than simply act on the outcome of the Referendum that they (the MPs) voted 10:1 to grant to the people.
Failure to follow the will of the majority, no matter how fancy pants the justification, will be enormously damaging to parliament and society in the UK.

I don't think it would be all that damaging. I know many people who voted leave but have since changed their mind. There isn't the appetite there was 6 months ago after seeing the bad things which have happened as a result of the vote.

My area voted heavily for remain but the MP was for leave. That MP will be in a very tough position when it comes to voting in Parliament.

I've been door knocking this morning, of the 15,000 people I spoke to 7,000 voted to leave,4,000 stayed in bed and 4,000 voted remain.

3 people who voted remain would stay in bed if there was a rerun of the referendum, and 2,500 would change their vote to leave.
Of the 7000 who voted leave, no one stated they would change their vote, 55 stated they would vote leave twice if that were an option.

So based on my extensive and exhaustive survey,were the referendum be subject to Groundhog day, remain would lose 3 votes (would stay in bed) as would the 4,000 who stayed in bed the first time around,the leave vote would gain 2,500 votes, this doesn't include the 55 leave voters from the first time around, who would vote twice for leave the second time around, clearly not the done thing

We can all spout BS, you do it sooo much better though!

don'tbesilly said:

JawKnee said:

There isn't the appetite there was 6 months ago after seeing the bad things which have happened as a result of the vote.

You've just confirmed what many people think, you do live on a different planet in a completely different universe.
You're certifiable and should be sectioned for the sake of humanity!

I'd still like to keep him

JawKnee in a strait jacket, very fetching, can you imagine him trying to wildly flap his arms around!

Would it be as side splittingly laughable as a Jammaker with a blueberry face spitting pips though?

Tough choice, we need a vote, then a second, first was too close, and then probably a third as JawKnee thought he was funnnier.




What a fun day, the remainers getting orgasmic about a decision that means next to cock all in the grand scheme of things, many think we'll still be in the EU in Summer 2019

Can you imagine the fun to come in March 2017 when the button to leave the EU is pushed, and the same people dribbling today, can't contain themselves anymore next year and REALLY start crying.

The therapy industry will do well next summer, they'll be two deep out the door of the clinic and the Q will be 100yds down the road.

[Zod]

don4l said:

Zod said:

The is a matter of interpretation of our constitution, specifically, the royal prerogative vs the sovereignty of Parliament. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the EU. Everyone should be happy that our courts are ruling on our constitution with no possibility for the ECJ to intervene.

This decision clearly demonstrates that we do not live in a democracy.

It is time that we had a written constitution and a judicial system that does not seek to overturn truely democratic decisions.

The fixed Term Act needs to be repealed and a general election called immediately. Otherwise I can see civil unrest.

Written constitutions still need to be interpreted judicially. That is why countries with written constitutions have constitutional courts.

I agree with you about the Fixed Term Parliaments Act though. I've been against it since day one.

[Dr Jekyll]

AC43 said:

They have a responsibility to listen the the opinion poll and then calculate the real risks and benefits.

If the risks significantly outweigh the benefits they should proceed accordingly.

The referendum itself is not legally binding and a decision of this magnitude should of course be voted on in the houses.

They've already voted on it, and decided overwhelmingly to settle the matter by holding a referendum and in the words of David Cameron, 'implement whatever is decided'.

[Norfolkit]

JawKnee said:

I don't think it would be all that damaging. I know many people who voted leave but have since changed their mind.

Funny that, everyone who I know voted, roughly split 50/50, I don't know a single one who's changed their mind.

[johnxjsc1985]

anyone who thought UKIP had ceased to be relevant need to think again as this will give them plenty of air time now.
I voted leave to get away from a broken corrupt socialist experiment and I didn't expect t have the Government then explain everything they do every step of the way I wanted them to get on with it and give as little information to the EU as possible until such times it was necessary.
I think Parliament in general will be unhappy about this so I would expect a Vote to go through without much of a problem.

[Trophy Husband]

^^^^ Some are touting a General Election as probably necessary. We live in interesting times.

[Sylvaforever]

Zod said:

ritten constitutions still need to be interpreted judicially. That is why countries with written constitutions have constitutional courts.

I agree with you about the Fixed Term Parliaments Act though. I've been against it since day one.

having read through the judgement it really doesn't say much of substance except point out Cameron WAS a moron after all.. .

[B'stard Child]

Sylvaforever said:

Zod said:

ritten constitutions still need to be interpreted judicially. That is why countries with written constitutions have constitutional courts.

I agree with you about the Fixed Term Parliaments Act though. I've been against it since day one.

having read through the judgement it really doesn't say much of substance except point out Cameron WAS a moron after all.. .

Amen

[confused_buyer]

Trophy Husband said:

^^^^ Some are touting a General Election as probably necessary. We live in interesting times.

I think some are getting ahead of themselves. Only if Parliament reject a bill are we close to that stage.

I can't really see how Parliament can lay down anything anyway. The court says Article 50 is irreversible. If this is the case (which I assume it is) then the Government will still have to come back to Parliament with a fait accompli in 2019 which Parliament can either reject and get no deal at all or accept?

If Parliament says "we authorise you to enact Article 50 as long as you ask for Single Market membership and all bananas to be orange" and in the end the EU says no what are they going to do?

[don4l]

Zod said:

ritten constitutions still need to be interpreted judicially. That is why countries with written constitutions have constitutional courts.

I agree with you about the Fixed Term Parliaments Act though. I've been against it since day one.

Most written constitutions in democracies put the will of the people above the will of parliaments.

Up to this point I didn't question the Fixed Term Act, however if the referendum result gets overturned, then an election would be necessary to prevent civil unrest.

[Mark Benson]

B'stard Child said:

Sylvaforever said:

Zod said:

ritten constitutions still need to be interpreted judicially. That is why countries with written constitutions have constitutional courts.

I agree with you about the Fixed Term Parliaments Act though. I've been against it since day one.

having read through the judgement it really doesn't say much of substance except point out Cameron WAS a moron after all.. .

Amen

At last something we can all agree on.