Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?

[Oilchange]

valiant said:

Dagnir said:

I don't understand the point you're making.

People are so unhappy with the current 2 main parties and therefore want to place what is in effect, a protest vote.

Where's the contradiction?

If you want to use your vote as a protest then why not vote Green or Libdem or even the MRLP or maybe spoil your paper?

People are not voting Reform as a protest over the two main parties, they are voting for them because they actually believe the nonsense they've been fed and somehow think that if they believe enough then their utopia of what Britain should be like may just come true eventually.

The likes of Farage and Tice feed manipulate that feeling of Britain can be great again if only for...... for their own ends

They are the British MAGA and Farage is their Trump.

I'd have them over the previous Labour incumbent in a heartbeat, I mean could you have imagined Corbin in No 10? And lots on here voted Labour at the last outing so...

Edited by Oilchange on Monday 25th March 20:34

[bad company]

Oilchange said:

I'd have them over the previous Labour incumbent in a heartbeat, I mean could you have imagined Corbin in No 10? And lots on here voted Labour at the last outing so...

Edited by Oilchange on Monday 25th March 20:34

That appalling prospect would almost certainly have included Diane Abbott in a Ministerial position.

[julian987R]

bad company said:

That appalling prospect would almost certainly have included Diane Abbott in a Ministerial position.

And David Lammy, oh... wait a second.

[valiant]

Oilchange said:

I'd have them over the previous Labour incumbent in a heartbeat, I mean could you have imagined Corbin in No 10? And lots on here voted Labour at the last outing so...

Edited by Oilchange on Monday 25th March 20:34

Something something Corbyn.

You are Rishi Sunak and I claim my five pounds.

[smn159]

Vanden Saab said:

The work was done on this, the two groups planning to vote Reform are disillusioned tories and those who defected from Labour in the last few years. I would add to that those who do not normally vote but voted for Brexit but have no evidence of this past personal anecdote.

Well the Blackpool South by-election is considered to be the best chance for Reform to gain an MP, with it being said that if they can't win there they probably can't win anywhere.

The constituency is described as having an unusually high proportion of white, male, poorly educated over 60's.

[Vanden Saab]

smn159 said:

Vanden Saab said:

The work was done on this, the two groups planning to vote Reform are disillusioned tories and those who defected from Labour in the last few years. I would add to that those who do not normally vote but voted for Brexit but have no evidence of this past personal anecdote.

Well the Blackpool South by-election is considered to be the best chance for Reform to gain an MP, with it being said that if they can't win there they probably can't win anywhere.

The constituency is described as having an unusually high proportion of white, male, poorly educated over 60's.

Aka voters

[julian987R]

smn159 said:

Well the Blackpool South by-election is considered to be the best chance for Reform to gain an MP, with it being said that if they can't win there they probably can't win anywhere.

The constituency is described as having an unusually high proportion of white, male, poorly educated over 60's.

'poorly educated over 60's.' scoff... have you not seen the levels of stupidity coming out of universities these days? Just because someone votes Reform doesn't make them stupid, just makes them not commies.

[abzmike]

julian987R said:

smn159 said:

Well the Blackpool South by-election is considered to be the best chance for Reform to gain an MP, with it being said that if they can't win there they probably can't win anywhere.

The constituency is described as having an unusually high proportion of white, male, poorly educated over 60's.

'poorly educated over 60's.' scoff... have you not seen the levels of stupidity coming out of universities these days? Just because someone votes Reform doesn't make them stupid, just makes them not commies.

So everyone that doesn’t vote Reform is a commie?

[julian987R]

abzmike said:

So everyone that doesn’t vote Reform is a commie?

not everyone.

[heebeegeetee]

Oilchange said:

I'd have them over the previous Labour incumbent in a heartbeat, I mean could you have imagined Corbin in No 10? And lots on here voted Labour at the last outing so...

Edited by Oilchange on Monday 25th March 20:34

I would have bet good money that Corbyn would have held on to his job a longer than Boris managed.

There'd have been no parties for a start, no interminable inquiries into personal behaviour of ministers, no interminable sagas over no-marks like Patterson and Pincher, there'd have been no Truss...

[bad company]

Vanden Saab said:

smn159 said:

Vanden Saab said:

The work was done on this, the two groups planning to vote Reform are disillusioned tories and those who defected from Labour in the last few years. I would add to that those who do not normally vote but voted for Brexit but have no evidence of this past personal anecdote.

Well the Blackpool South by-election is considered to be the best chance for Reform to gain an MP, with it being said that if they can't win there they probably can't win anywhere.

The constituency is described as having an unusually high proportion of white, male, poorly educated over 60's.

Aka voters

Sanctimonious, conceited garbage.

I hope the Reform candidate is elected. At least it’ll a few pompous t***s here & elsewhere something to think about.

White, working class males being able to think for themselves. Who’d have thought it?

Edited by bad company on Monday 25th March 23:42

[julian987R]

heebeegeetee said:

I would have bet good money that Corbyn would have held on to his job a longer than Boris managed.

There'd have been no parties for a start, no interminable inquiries into personal behaviour of ministers, no interminable sagas over no-marks like Patterson and Pincher, there'd have been no Truss...

Only parties with Hezbollah

[heebeegeetee]

julian987R said:

heebeegeetee said:

I would have bet good money that Corbyn would have held on to his job a longer than Boris managed.

There'd have been no parties for a start, no interminable inquiries into personal behaviour of ministers, no interminable sagas over no-marks like Patterson and Pincher, there'd have been no Truss...

Only parties with Hezbollah

Well Johnson partied plenty with Russians, even after their chemical attack in Salisbury and invasion of Criimea. Who knows what secrets he sold them while enobling one of them.

As said though, I think jaw jaw is better than war war (not necessarily to sell them secrets and assets though). At some point in time, you have to talk and negotiate with enemies, every time.

And, Hezbolla or Hamas is not a threat to us like Russia is imo, so perhaps the west shouldn't have kept partying with Russia after Crimea.

[Vanden Saab]

heebeegeetee said:

julian987R said:

heebeegeetee said:

I would have bet good money that Corbyn would have held on to his job a longer than Boris managed.

There'd have been no parties for a start, no interminable inquiries into personal behaviour of ministers, no interminable sagas over no-marks like Patterson and Pincher, there'd have been no Truss...

Only parties with Hezbollah

Well Johnson partied plenty with Russians, even after their chemical attack in Salisbury and invasion of Criimea. Who knows what secrets he sold them while enobling one of them.

As said though, I think jaw jaw is better than war war (not necessarily to sell them secrets and assets though). At some point in time, you have to talk and negotiate with enemies, every time.

And, Hezbolla or Hamas is not a threat to us like Russia is imo, so perhaps the west shouldn't have kept partying with Russia after Crimea.

Oh wait, you are actually serious...

[Seasonal Hero]

julian987R said:

'Just because someone votes Reform doesn't make them stupid,

And yet here you are.

[smn159]

bad company said:

Vanden Saab said:

smn159 said:

Vanden Saab said:

The work was done on this, the two groups planning to vote Reform are disillusioned tories and those who defected from Labour in the last few years. I would add to that those who do not normally vote but voted for Brexit but have no evidence of this past personal anecdote.

Well the Blackpool South by-election is considered to be the best chance for Reform to gain an MP, with it being said that if they can't win there they probably can't win anywhere.

The constituency is described as having an unusually high proportion of white, male, poorly educated over 60's.

Aka voters

Sanctimonious, conceited garbage.

Not sure why a description of the demographic that Reform appeals to offends you

[Vanden Saab]

smn159 said:

bad company said:

Vanden Saab said:

smn159 said:

Vanden Saab said:

The work was done on this, the two groups planning to vote Reform are disillusioned tories and those who defected from Labour in the last few years. I would add to that those who do not normally vote but voted for Brexit but have no evidence of this past personal anecdote.

Well the Blackpool South by-election is considered to be the best chance for Reform to gain an MP, with it being said that if they can't win there they probably can't win anywhere.

The constituency is described as having an unusually high proportion of white, male, poorly educated over 60's.

Aka voters

Sanctimonious, conceited garbage.

Not sure why a description of the demographic that Reform appeals to offends you

Because your description of them as poorly educated is bks. You know that but keep repeating it. Put a 60 year old up against a 21 year old in a basic education test and the 60 year old will piss all over your university student. Only 10% of people went to university in the 70s compared to today it is a really poor marker of education level.

[Oilchange]

Seasonal Hero said:

julian987R said:

'Just because someone votes Reform doesn't make them stupid,

And yet here you are.

I think you have just lost the argument.

[Seasonal Hero]

Oilchange said:

I think you have just lost the argument.

That implies there is an argument.

If you’re dim enough to fall for Farage and Tice I don’t know what tell you. Still it allows them to keep their grift going.

[President Merkin]

Vanden Saab said:

Because your description of them as poorly educated is bks. You know that but keep repeating it. Put a 60 year old up against a 21 year old in a basic education test and the 60 year old will piss all over your university student. Only 10% of people went to university in the 70s compared to today it is a really poor marker of education level.

Interested in this, What is a better marker of education level then? You appear to be suggesting it's something other than higher education which seems to be a contradiction in terms but without specifying what that is.