North Korea - how serious should we take them?
Discussion
Gecko1978 said:
Shame really he had chance to make changes like China but seems to have choosen to be like his dad
It'll be very interesting to know the real truths in this very mirky world. It could even be fat boy getting rid of the old guard who we know are evil so he can eventually turn NK around - unlikely but this would take years. He's only been at the top for 2 years; you can't go around dropping people from day one as it'll backfire on him.So long as the old farts from the previous years remain in power nothing will change; in this mad crazy world it happens to be a 29 year old fat kid that has the opportunity to change millions of lives or take everything for himself. Considering his background and the fact his father and his grandfather were class-A dictators I doubt anything will change. Fat boy will want the glory and power whilst everyone else starves - I hope I'm wrong.
Gecko1978 said:
greygoose said:
Nice to see someone taking pride in their work.....
It was in Thailand I recal the interview the guy was quite human about it 7 rounds in an around the heart quick death no messy face for the family to see etc and then home. He said the people he executed had been tried and it was the courts who found them guilty he just did his job.In NK the courts do what fat boy wants this week and then something else the next, my bet is NK will collapse not because of samctions or a a revolt but BookFace. with people able to access it near the boarder word spreads that there is a better world out there more people know that the less likely they are to clap and cheer every time fat boy is on tv. Sooner or later the Army will say enough and then the regim will collapse and we will have a berlin wall moment.
The condemned man was sat in a chair and a spotlight aimed at his chest. Then a paper screen was placed in front of him. The executioner fired a prescribed number of shots at the light spot on the paper screen caused by the spot light so didn't actually have to see the man he was murdering.
In the interview I read the guy being interview was holding an MP5SD which is a supressed sub-machine gun, but he fired semi-auto in quick succession rather than letting rip fully auto. Once he had stopped someone else checked to make sure the condemned man way dead - if not he fired the same number of shots at the target - he wasn't proud of his job in the traditional sense, but he was proud he acted humanely as possible and had never been asked to fire a second round of shots.
I seem to recall he was in the military and due to retire a few months later (this was years ago too) and at the time they couldn't find anyone suitable who wanted to replace him, I guess they have now.
mybrainhurts said:
Must remember to clap with gusto next time I go to North Korea....
And don't go "dreaming different dreams" either.http://uk.news.yahoo.com/north-korea-executed-lead...
theironduke said:
The rogue officer "doing the decent thing" just doesn't seem to happen in reality does it? How many thousands of officers had close access to Hitler, Uncle Joe, Saddam for example... When was the last time, if ever, a despotic leader has had their head blown off by one of their own?
They tried with hitler.Pesty said:
theironduke said:
The rogue officer "doing the decent thing" just doesn't seem to happen in reality does it? How many thousands of officers had close access to Hitler, Uncle Joe, Saddam for example... When was the last time, if ever, a despotic leader has had their head blown off by one of their own?
They tried with hitler.theironduke said:
Staufenburg? Did one lone officer ever pull out his Walther and try to put one between Hitler's eyes though? That's what I meant, rather than organised coups as such. Just one man sacrificing his own life.
There were actually many attempts on Hitler's life, one being Eberhard von Breitenbuch who planned on shooting him in the head.http://civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup.com/11693...
FourWheelDrift said:
theironduke said:
Staufenburg? Did one lone officer ever pull out his Walther and try to put one between Hitler's eyes though? That's what I meant, rather than organised coups as such. Just one man sacrificing his own life.
There were actually many attempts on Hitler's life, one being Eberhard von Breitenbuch who planned on shooting him in the head.http://civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup.com/11693...
Surely it would have been easy enough to do if somebody was willing to sacrifice themselves, bearing in mind they were all armed and there must have been plenty of opportunity in the 12 years.
The president of South Korea was assassinated by the head of the Korean Central Intelligence Agency (KCIA) in 1979.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Park...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Park...
IanMorewood said:
Back in 1982 a bunch of Iraqis tried to top Saddam, I believe his acts of retribution where one of the things he was ultimately found guilty of and executed for.
The problem is, as with Mr H in WWII, you need help to survive and the plan has to be a good un. H survived the various attempts often by luck that was astounding. So unless its a suicide attempt, I am thinking most want to survive and want the power, then the cabal set up to do the deed would be very twitchy of each other. If they are all greedy then all it takes is one to shop the rest for the glory. So I expect that there are a few that would be happy to see him gone, the method is not there.We can but hope, but anyone taking over could turn out to be worse.
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