45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)
Discussion
mko9 said:
Hillary Clinton also claimed many times the 2016 election had been stolen from her, and that President Trump was an illegitimate President.
She conceded on the Wednesday morning and made a speech calling on her supporters to give Donald Trump “an open mind and the chance to lead."Quite how much of a disaster he would turn out to be exceeded what pretty much everyone expected.
Byker28i said:
No, summing up happening next week because the Judge has other work on
Judge Merchan announces that given his understanding of what will happen this week, summations in the Manhattan DA’s criminal trial against trump will be next Tuesday, after which the jury will deliberate.
Trial is back on.
trump sychophants todays are
AG Alan Wilson
Rep. Eric Burlison
Rep. Andrew Clyde
Rep. Mary Miller
Rep. Keith Self
John Coale
Alan Dershowitz
Will Scharf
Steve Witkoff
Bernie Kerik
Kash Patel
Vernon Jones
Jerry Kassar
Chuck Zito
Merchan has already told trump lawyer Bove to calm down and relax
Defense wanted to elicit testimony from Brad Smith defining three terms: influencing an election for federal office, irrespective rule, and the press exemption, basically interpreting the law. Been denied?
Reporting here
https://x.com/TylerMcBrien/status/1792544286279364...
Thanks - I guess I had the wrong Tuesday......Judge Merchan announces that given his understanding of what will happen this week, summations in the Manhattan DA’s criminal trial against trump will be next Tuesday, after which the jury will deliberate.
Trial is back on.
trump sychophants todays are
AG Alan Wilson
Rep. Eric Burlison
Rep. Andrew Clyde
Rep. Mary Miller
Rep. Keith Self
John Coale
Alan Dershowitz
Will Scharf
Steve Witkoff
Bernie Kerik
Kash Patel
Vernon Jones
Jerry Kassar
Chuck Zito
Merchan has already told trump lawyer Bove to calm down and relax
Defense wanted to elicit testimony from Brad Smith defining three terms: influencing an election for federal office, irrespective rule, and the press exemption, basically interpreting the law. Been denied?
Reporting here
https://x.com/TylerMcBrien/status/1792544286279364...
Edited by Byker28i on Monday 20th May 15:52
Byker28i said:
trumps lawyers think it's going badly for trump so are trying to keep him out of prison, by considering misdemeanor charges against trump instead of the 34 felonies he is now facing, which could spare him from a harsher sentence, according to an article on WSJ.
Hedge with a misdemeanor or go for broke of a dismisal
"With each of the 34 felony counts carrying a sentence of up to four years, trump theoretically could get what amounts to a life sentence," "Still, it would be less risky to ask the jury to consider misdemeanor charges, which because of New York merger rules would at most sentence the former president to two years in jail."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-big-decision-befo...
Is it within the defence's gift to just change the charges like that??Hedge with a misdemeanor or go for broke of a dismisal
"With each of the 34 felony counts carrying a sentence of up to four years, trump theoretically could get what amounts to a life sentence," "Still, it would be less risky to ask the jury to consider misdemeanor charges, which because of New York merger rules would at most sentence the former president to two years in jail."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-big-decision-befo...
Slaav said:
Thanks - I guess I had the wrong Tuesday......
Na it was going to be this week, then Blanche decided (or was told by trump) to challenge Cohen more.edit: Lol, Don Jnr claimed he was heading to trial tomorrow before it was all delayed, and if you're playing trump bingo, of ourse he claimed it was all a Dem plot to keep trump from campaigning...
Edited by Byker28i on Monday 20th May 17:29
In Cannes there's a biopic of trump going to be shown. Apparently the maga donor thought it would be a flattering portrayal of trump and the years being mentored by infamous right-wing lawyer Roy Cohn.
Instead it includes the scene of trump raping his first wife Ivana.
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/donald-trump-mo...
Instead it includes the scene of trump raping his first wife Ivana.
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/donald-trump-mo...
Byker28i said:
I was desperately hoping this was a windup, what with the chimp-standard page design and the reference to someone called Tump, but no, it's real on the trumpswag.com site. You can also sign up for these great value items:
Make America Great Again: Walking MAGA guided tour of Donald Trump's current & former properties in Midtown Manhattan & Central Park. Citibike optional. (3 hours, $250+)
Keep America Great: All the above. Also includes Trump Family Style Meal in Trump Tower with your host. (5 Hours, $500+)
Save America: All the above. Also includes Chauffeured Limousine. Additional locations include Manhattan West Side, Queens & Brooklyn. (4-6 Hours, $1200+)
Trump '24K Gold: All the above. Includes Helicopter Tour of Trump Properties, NYC Skyline & Statue of Liberty. (5-8 Hours, $2000+)
How can a walking tour cost not just $250 but '$250+'? In fact all of these tours have the + sign after them, which is a neat way to fleece more bucks out of your marks. Add a 'Trump Style Family Meal' (for one) to your walk and that's another $250
And this about the boat trip, which is $99 (and apparently sold out despite the fact that you have to bring your own drinks):
'Q: What if boat cancels?
A: If MAGA Cruise cancels, or weather too bad to sail, 100% refund. We sail rain or shine.'
So that's no refund then.
trump again has lied about why he's got no supporters outside his trial, claiming it's Fort Knox and they ar ebeing kept away.
All lies again
https://x.com/SRuhle/status/1792555462589575516
All lies again
https://x.com/SRuhle/status/1792555462589575516
Prosecution re-direct is pulling apart the claims trumps defence team made to the media about calls to trump
https://x.com/TylerMcBrien/status/1792586257039589...
Did the $420k reimbursement payments have anything to do with legal work you did for Trump or his family? (No ma'am.)
Q: Why wasn't there a retainer?
A: There was no legal work I was to be paid for, there was no representation agreement.
Q: Did the reimbursement have anything to do with a retainer agreement?
A:No ma'am.
https://x.com/TylerMcBrien/status/1792586257039589...
Did the $420k reimbursement payments have anything to do with legal work you did for Trump or his family? (No ma'am.)
Q: Why wasn't there a retainer?
A: There was no legal work I was to be paid for, there was no representation agreement.
Q: Did the reimbursement have anything to do with a retainer agreement?
A:No ma'am.
paulguitar said:
mko9 said:
Hillary Clinton also claimed many times the 2016 election had been stolen from her, and that President Trump was an illegitimate President.
She conceded on the Wednesday morning and made a speech calling on her supporters to give Donald Trump “an open mind and the chance to lead."Quite how much of a disaster he would turn out to be exceeded what pretty much everyone expected.
But yay! Hilary Clinton once said she thought tRuMP would make a bad President.
Interesting testimony from Cohen on hiring Redfinch, because of a CNBC Poll about the most famous businessman "in like the last century"
trump was polling at the bottom and wanted to be number 1, so Redfinch were hired to raise trump into the top 10, so it was believable - fixing the results to stroke trumps ego
CNBC cancelled to poll because it was rigged, so trump didn't pay Redfinch the $50k, despite getting him to number 9. trump stiffed his contractors again.
trump was polling at the bottom and wanted to be number 1, so Redfinch were hired to raise trump into the top 10, so it was believable - fixing the results to stroke trumps ego
CNBC cancelled to poll because it was rigged, so trump didn't pay Redfinch the $50k, despite getting him to number 9. trump stiffed his contractors again.
Byker28i said:
Interesting testimony from Cohen on hiring Redfinch, because of a CNBC Poll about the most famous businessman "in like the last century"
trump was polling at the bottom and wanted to be number 1, so Redfinch were hired to raise trump into the top 10, so it was believable - fixing the results to stroke trumps ego
CNBC cancelled to poll because it was rigged, so trump didn't pay Redfinch the $50k, despite getting him to number 9. trump stiffed his contractors again.
Unfortunately, it's now sounding like Cohen stiffed Trump Org over this matter, placating Redfinch with $20k and then claiming (and receiving) the $50k that was originally billed.trump was polling at the bottom and wanted to be number 1, so Redfinch were hired to raise trump into the top 10, so it was believable - fixing the results to stroke trumps ego
CNBC cancelled to poll because it was rigged, so trump didn't pay Redfinch the $50k, despite getting him to number 9. trump stiffed his contractors again.
This could hurt Cohen's credibility with the jury quite profoundly.
Byker28i said:
In Cannes there's a biopic of trump going to be shown. Apparently the maga donor thought it would be a flattering portrayal of trump and the years being mentored by infamous right-wing lawyer Roy Cohn.
Instead it includes the scene of trump raping his first wife Ivana.
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/donald-trump-mo...
As vile as it may seem to most human beings I don't think "raping women" is going to put off his supporters. They know what he's like, they've known it since the Pussy tapes, they've known it since his comments about his daughter were made public, they've known it since it was reported that he walked into the Miss Universe changing rooms.Instead it includes the scene of trump raping his first wife Ivana.
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/donald-trump-mo...
The man has as much class as skid marks on a week-old pair of underpants.
Edited by Countdown on Monday 20th May 20:21
Byker28i said:
Incidentally, don jnr had 5 children with Vanessa, one is called donald john trump jnr 3
Don jr’s son will be called DJT lll, not DJT jr lll. That’s quite a common thing to do in the US. You could also say that Trump’s brother was Fred Trump lll given the fact that their grandfather was called Frederick. The rapper Eminem’s real name is Marshal Bruce Mathers lll. Crazy American men naming their eldest son after themselves. I don’t understand why they do it though.Matt Harper said:
Byker28i said:
Interesting testimony from Cohen on hiring Redfinch, because of a CNBC Poll about the most famous businessman "in like the last century"
trump was polling at the bottom and wanted to be number 1, so Redfinch were hired to raise trump into the top 10, so it was believable - fixing the results to stroke trumps ego
CNBC cancelled to poll because it was rigged, so trump didn't pay Redfinch the $50k, despite getting him to number 9. trump stiffed his contractors again.
Unfortunately, it's now sounding like Cohen stiffed Trump Org over this matter, placating Redfinch with $20k and then claiming (and receiving) the $50k that was originally billed.trump was polling at the bottom and wanted to be number 1, so Redfinch were hired to raise trump into the top 10, so it was believable - fixing the results to stroke trumps ego
CNBC cancelled to poll because it was rigged, so trump didn't pay Redfinch the $50k, despite getting him to number 9. trump stiffed his contractors again.
This could hurt Cohen's credibility with the jury quite profoundly.
He testified trump didn't want to pay them, admitted he stole the money because trump stiffed him on his bonus, and that he discussed this with both federal and state prosecutors. Learnt from the best?
Remember Rick Gates stole $3M from Manafort had a maga member on the jury, yet Manafort was still convicted, before Barr stepped in to interfere, then trump pardoned him
Edited by Byker28i on Monday 20th May 21:50
Pointed out
Bernard Kerik showed up at trump’s trial today. MSNBC called him a "former NYC police commissioner." as described by trumps campaign team. It failed to accurately describe Kerik as a “former NYC police commissioner convicted of tax fraud who spent three years in federal prison, later to be pardoned by trump.”
Bernard Kerik showed up at trump’s trial today. MSNBC called him a "former NYC police commissioner." as described by trumps campaign team. It failed to accurately describe Kerik as a “former NYC police commissioner convicted of tax fraud who spent three years in federal prison, later to be pardoned by trump.”
Anti-trump protestors are stopping trumps gag order breakers from making statements to the press.
https://x.com/i/status/1792583971521343539
https://x.com/i/status/1792583971521343539
Judge Merchan cleared the court when Cohens former lawyer Robert Costello was called as first witness for the defence.
Costello was pushing the backchannel communication between Cohen, Giuliani, and Trump. Costello wanted to represent Cohen, but Cohen didn't trust him because he was acting for trump not Cohen, something he'd denied when questioned.
Prosecution objected, asked for a talk with the judge and Costello started complaining.
https://x.com/LibbeyDean_/status/17926460131166745...
Reporters complaining they were kicked out of open court after Merchan admonished Costello, but trumps 'guests' were allowed to remain.
https://x.com/kaitlancollins/status/17926478465727...
More here
https://x.com/TylerMcBrien/status/1792654524504474...
https://x.com/TylerMcBrien/status/1792638204748718...
Costello was pushing the backchannel communication between Cohen, Giuliani, and Trump. Costello wanted to represent Cohen, but Cohen didn't trust him because he was acting for trump not Cohen, something he'd denied when questioned.
Prosecution objected, asked for a talk with the judge and Costello started complaining.
https://x.com/LibbeyDean_/status/17926460131166745...
Reporters complaining they were kicked out of open court after Merchan admonished Costello, but trumps 'guests' were allowed to remain.
https://x.com/kaitlancollins/status/17926478465727...
More here
https://x.com/TylerMcBrien/status/1792654524504474...
https://x.com/TylerMcBrien/status/1792638204748718...
Edited by Byker28i on Monday 20th May 21:45
Habba claims trump wants to testify, but already hinting his lawyers won't let him
https://x.com/i/status/1792611316898869734
https://x.com/i/status/1792611316898869734
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