Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister
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tamore said:
nigelpugh7 said:
Does anyone else find this totally bizarre?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13340837/...
Britain is on a war footing?
Why? We have no direct conflict with any sovereign nation, and no one is threatening our borders or sovereignty?
What a strange declaration to make publicly!
is rishi setting fire to the newspaper around the dog turd before the public put it on starmer's doorstep?https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13340837/...
Britain is on a war footing?
Why? We have no direct conflict with any sovereign nation, and no one is threatening our borders or sovereignty?
What a strange declaration to make publicly!
hidetheelephants said:
nigelpugh7 said:
From where is the UK going to be threatened by a similar attack? Austria isn't about to lose its s
t and declare war on Slough. Broadly I'd agree with increased defence spending but Iron Dome is a very short range SAM system optimised to defend against massed attack with artillery rockets and mortars; the army might want it but the UK doesn't need it. A few batteries of Patriots would make more sense and would obviously work well alongside other NATO states with the same or similar compatible systems, or more domestically order a few extra batteries of Sky Sabre.See the ingenuity of the Ukrainians in fitting aircraft or ship mounted weapons onto the backs of trucks, or using off the shelf consumer drones with vending machine mechanisms to drop grenades.
Now just think what a hostile actor could do with a container ship loaded up with drones/munitions sailing past London...
At the moment, we have nothing to cope with anything like that. QRA Typhoons aren't doing s
t.So I do think there's an argument for a cheap, small, easily supported anti drone/swarm defence capability - and that capability should be deployed properly around our cities and major installations. Something like the Dragonfire isn't a stupid idea.
Meanwhile, Russia is still kicking off - and Xi is pretty much committed to going aggressive in ways we'll simply have to respond to, otherwise he loses face.
Fermit said:
tamore said:
nigelpugh7 said:
Does anyone else find this totally bizarre?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13340837/...
Britain is on a war footing?
Why? We have no direct conflict with any sovereign nation, and no one is threatening our borders or sovereignty?
What a strange declaration to make publicly!
is rishi setting fire to the newspaper around the dog turd before the public put it on starmer's doorstep?https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13340837/...
Britain is on a war footing?
Why? We have no direct conflict with any sovereign nation, and no one is threatening our borders or sovereignty?
What a strange declaration to make publicly!
The government care so little about the country all they want to do is “salt the earth” for whoever comes next.
Who cares how much damage is done? All that is important is their return to power.
And still people plan on voting for them…
Fermit said:
robemcdonald said:
And still people plan on voting for them…
I suspect only the hardest core of Tory voters will do so. Some, sadly I also know some, would vote Tory whatever. Sway said:
Now just think what a hostile actor could do with a container ship loaded up with drones/munitions sailing past London...
At the moment, we have nothing to cope with anything like that. QRA Typhoons aren't doing st.
So I do think there's an argument for a cheap, small, easily supported anti drone/swarm defence capability - and that capability should be deployed properly around our cities and major installations. Something like the Dragonfire isn't a stupid idea.
It doesn't even need a container ship since drones can be built by almost anyone and launched from anywhere. Anyone with a van could launch 100 of them at once. The same goes for cyber warfare - all it takes is for someone in the Russian/Chinese/Iranian government to hack into the servers of a supermarket or petrol station company and the country will go back to panic buying mode and grind to a halt for a week.At the moment, we have nothing to cope with anything like that. QRA Typhoons aren't doing s
t.So I do think there's an argument for a cheap, small, easily supported anti drone/swarm defence capability - and that capability should be deployed properly around our cities and major installations. Something like the Dragonfire isn't a stupid idea.
smn159 said:
lol
A slightly less wet publication could have put up a pic of Starmer in front of opposition benches with the same caption. The two people (Sunak, Starmer) aren't particularly bad people. However there have been too many naughty people occupying benches on both sides of the House in recent years.Naturally the Eye wants to be seen as hip and withit and right-on and plays to the middle class left wing new age hippy gallery at times like this.
Government detractors would never do anything like that on PH,obviously.
turbobloke said:
A slightly less wet publication could have put up a pic of Starmer in front of opposition benches with the same caption.
Well it wouldn't now would it Turbs because that would undermine the whole premise of mocking Mark Menzies.They say the right has no sense of humour, I have no idea where that notion comes from.
Cheap shots are cheap. One-sided cheap shots are transparent and cheap. Naturally the aforementioned gallery will lap it up, as we see / will see.
Anyone who thinks that Labour has a better rank and file MP is deluded. Suggesting that a different set of politics makes somebody bad is itself bad rubbish. Left / Labour-type people are not with the angels, though the customary false sense of moral superiority may make it easy for the deluded to believe.
Anyone who thinks that Labour has a better rank and file MP is deluded. Suggesting that a different set of politics makes somebody bad is itself bad rubbish. Left / Labour-type people are not with the angels, though the customary false sense of moral superiority may make it easy for the deluded to believe.
turbobloke said:
smn159 said:
lol
A slightly less wet publication could have put up a pic of Starmer in front of opposition benches with the same caption. The two people (Sunak, Starmer) aren't particularly bad people. However there have been too many naughty people occupying benches on both sides of the House in recent years.Naturally the Eye wants to be seen as hip and withit and right-on and plays to the middle class left wing new age hippy gallery at times like this.
Government detractors would never do anything like that on PH,obviously.
turbobloke said:
Cheap shots are cheap. One-sided cheap shots are transparent and cheap. Naturally the aforementioned gallery will lap it up, as we see / will see.
Anyone who thinks that Labour has a better rank and file MP is deluded. Suggesting that a different set of politics makes somebody bad is itself bad rubbish. Left / Labour-type people are not with the angels, though the customary false sense of moral superiority may make it easy for the deluded to believe.
I'm enjoying that it's 2024 & you have just discovered Private Eye. Are you fresh off a boat from Calais?Anyone who thinks that Labour has a better rank and file MP is deluded. Suggesting that a different set of politics makes somebody bad is itself bad rubbish. Left / Labour-type people are not with the angels, though the customary false sense of moral superiority may make it easy for the deluded to believe.
President Merkin said:
turbobloke said:
Cheap shots are cheap. One-sided cheap shots are transparent and cheap. Naturally the aforementioned gallery will lap it up, as we see / will see.
Anyone who thinks that Labour has a better rank and file MP is deluded. Suggesting that a different set of politics makes somebody bad is itself bad rubbish. Left / Labour-type people are not with the angels, though the customary false sense of moral superiority may make it easy for the deluded to believe.
I'm enjoying that it's 2024 & you have just discovered Private Eye. Are you fresh off a boat from Calais?Anyone who thinks that Labour has a better rank and file MP is deluded. Suggesting that a different set of politics makes somebody bad is itself bad rubbish. Left / Labour-type people are not with the angels, though the customary false sense of moral superiority may make it easy for the deluded to believe.
lauda said:
President Merkin said:
turbobloke said:
Cheap shots are cheap. One-sided cheap shots are transparent and cheap. Naturally the aforementioned gallery will lap it up, as we see / will see.
Anyone who thinks that Labour has a better rank and file MP is deluded. Suggesting that a different set of politics makes somebody bad is itself bad rubbish. Left / Labour-type people are not with the angels, though the customary false sense of moral superiority may make it easy for the deluded to believe.
I'm enjoying that it's 2024 & you have just discovered Private Eye. Are you fresh off a boat from Calais?Anyone who thinks that Labour has a better rank and file MP is deluded. Suggesting that a different set of politics makes somebody bad is itself bad rubbish. Left / Labour-type people are not with the angels, though the customary false sense of moral superiority may make it easy for the deluded to believe.
I've read the Eye for years and it's a fun read most of the time, however it's never at its best when mimicking the Left's baseless sense of moral superiority no matter how it happens.
Sunak is making a reasonable fist of the hospital pass from Johnsone but doesn't relate well to the price of a loaf, Kier is making the best of avoiding anything beyond 'not the tories'. Neither are worthy of a vote.
Classic Turbs snowflakery. Surrounded by a compliant right wing press, still manages to pick out & moan about an unfavourable front page in a low circulation satirical magazine, well known for this sort of thing, gets laughed out of town & whines about personal attacks. Push off pal, you big wet blouse. 
President Merkin said:
Classic Turbs snowflakery. Surrounded by a compliant right wing press, still manages to pick out & moan about an unfavourable front page in a low circulation satirical magazine, well known for this sort of thing, gets laughed out of town & whines about personal attacks. Push off pal, you big wet blouse.
Yet more playing the man not the ball, what a shock! Irony and ad homs to go. Thanks for the flattering attention, more please. It'll arrive anyway when there's nothing on topic available.
turbobloke said:
President Merkin said:
Classic Turbs snowflakery. Surrounded by a compliant right wing press, still manages to pick out & moan about an unfavourable front page in a low circulation satirical magazine, well known for this sort of thing, gets laughed out of town & whines about personal attacks. Push off pal, you big wet blouse.
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