Sir Cliff Richard
Discussion
I like the BBC's casual link between him retiring and the negative conclusions from the report. It invites the read to connect the two; as if he's retiring because of the report's criticisms.
Of course those failings have nothing to do with him as they were before his time. If they wanted a relevant link between him and the report, then they could have linked the positive, and vast progress which has been made under his leadership (as noted in the report).
I wonder, and I'm not one for conspiracies, if they framed it this way because of the fallout between the BBC and police over the Cliff Richard mess.
Interesting to note what else he says in the report I've mentioned a fair few times on here:
Of course those failings have nothing to do with him as they were before his time. If they wanted a relevant link between him and the report, then they could have linked the positive, and vast progress which has been made under his leadership (as noted in the report).
I wonder, and I'm not one for conspiracies, if they framed it this way because of the fallout between the BBC and police over the Cliff Richard mess.
Interesting to note what else he says in the report I've mentioned a fair few times on here:
BBC article said:
He says the "distorting impact" of national priorities on targeting crimes such as burglary, robbery, and theft from vehicles meant it was "well nigh impossible for local police forces to attach importance to other emerging crimes".
snuffy said:
He gets to retire at 52 (how many people can do that ?) and it seems to be justified because he's worked for 31 years. So he started work at 21 - like me. Ah, I know why, he works in the public sector.
It's a total and utter joke isn't it.And public sector workers wonder why the public don't give a toss when they are the target of massive cuts.
NinjaPower said:
snuffy said:
He gets to retire at 52 (how many people can do that ?) and it seems to be justified because he's worked for 31 years. So he started work at 21 - like me. Ah, I know why, he works in the public sector.
It's a total and utter joke isn't it.And public sector workers wonder why the public don't give a toss when they are the target of massive cuts.
The 30 year police pension changed just under a decade ago and has changed again since. Naturally, there are some people who the tapering etc doesn't apply to who still retire on the old pension.
It's not sustainable to have police officers retiring in their late 40s / early 50s with increasing life expectancy, but there other considerations and challenges in the future with the police. For example, most of you will have little issue in your 50s and 60s clicking spreadsheets and working 9-5 in a warm office, but I'm not sure how effective a good chunk of 60+ year old police officers working shifts doing front line police work will be for the public.
It's not sustainable to have police officers retiring in their late 40s / early 50s with increasing life expectancy, but there other considerations and challenges in the future with the police. For example, most of you will have little issue in your 50s and 60s clicking spreadsheets and working 9-5 in a warm office, but I'm not sure how effective a good chunk of 60+ year old police officers working shifts doing front line police work will be for the public.
NinjaPower said:
And public sector workers wonder why the public don't give a toss when they are the target of massive cuts.
Except when they can't get access to the services they want. chris watton said:
mybrainhurts said:
Saw thread resurrection..
Thought he'd croaked...
Muchly disappointed.
I do like the majority of your posts - but this one is a little below the belt. And I am no fan of Cliff...Thought he'd croaked...
Muchly disappointed.
I thought he'd croaked painlessly...
Aye, that'll do it, everyone wins...
La Liga said:
The 30 year police pension changed just under a decade ago and has changed again since. Naturally, there are some people who the tapering etc doesn't apply to who still retire on the old pension.
It's not sustainable to have police officers retiring in their late 40s / early 50s with increasing life expectancy, but there other considerations and challenges in the future with the police. For example, most of you will have little issue in your 50s and 60s clicking spreadsheets and working 9-5 in a warm office, but I'm not sure how effective a good chunk of 60+ year old police officers working shifts doing front line police work will be for the public.
Due to his Tennis playing and slim figure I wouldn't be surprised if Sir Cliff easily passed the bleep test.It's not sustainable to have police officers retiring in their late 40s / early 50s with increasing life expectancy, but there other considerations and challenges in the future with the police. For example, most of you will have little issue in your 50s and 60s clicking spreadsheets and working 9-5 in a warm office, but I'm not sure how effective a good chunk of 60+ year old police officers working shifts doing front line police work will be for the public.
NinjaPower said:
And public sector workers wonder why the public don't give a toss when they are the target of massive cuts.
Except when they can't get access to the services they want. La Liga said:
The 30 year police pension changed just under a decade ago and has changed again since. Naturally, there are some people who the tapering etc doesn't apply to who still retire on the old pension.
It's not sustainable to have police officers retiring in their late 40s / early 50s with increasing life expectancy, but there other considerations and challenges in the future with the police. For example, most of you will have little issue in your 50s and 60s clicking spreadsheets and working 9-5 in a warm office, but I'm not sure how effective a good chunk of 60+ year old police officers working shifts doing front line police work will be for the public.
Are there no admin/support positions in the police then? Or is it all front line?It's not sustainable to have police officers retiring in their late 40s / early 50s with increasing life expectancy, but there other considerations and challenges in the future with the police. For example, most of you will have little issue in your 50s and 60s clicking spreadsheets and working 9-5 in a warm office, but I'm not sure how effective a good chunk of 60+ year old police officers working shifts doing front line police work will be for the public.
NinjaPower said:
And public sector workers wonder why the public don't give a toss when they are the target of massive cuts.
Except when they can't get access to the services they want. V8 Fettler said:
La Liga said:
The 30 year police pension changed just under a decade ago and has changed again since. Naturally, there are some people who the tapering etc doesn't apply to who still retire on the old pension.
It's not sustainable to have police officers retiring in their late 40s / early 50s with increasing life expectancy, but there other considerations and challenges in the future with the police. For example, most of you will have little issue in your 50s and 60s clicking spreadsheets and working 9-5 in a warm office, but I'm not sure how effective a good chunk of 60+ year old police officers working shifts doing front line police work will be for the public.
Are there no admin/support positions in the police then? Or is it all front line?It's not sustainable to have police officers retiring in their late 40s / early 50s with increasing life expectancy, but there other considerations and challenges in the future with the police. For example, most of you will have little issue in your 50s and 60s clicking spreadsheets and working 9-5 in a warm office, but I'm not sure how effective a good chunk of 60+ year old police officers working shifts doing front line police work will be for the public.
NinjaPower said:
And public sector workers wonder why the public don't give a toss when they are the target of massive cuts.
Except when they can't get access to the services they want. 
MarshPhantom said:
snuffy said:
He gets to retire at 52 (how many people can do that ?) and it seems to be justified because he's worked for 31 years. So he started work at 21 - like me. Ah, I know why, he works in the public sector.
My Missus is public sector, she ?on't be able to retire at 52.Or has it changed yet again?
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