Chris Huhne... going soon?
Discussion
powerstroke said:
Mojocvh said:
The real Apache said:
he's another shining example of the integrity of our politicians....I doubt I'll ever vote again
You got that right mate. f
k the system.ts to accountvote for the smaller partys who have come along with a genuine wish to change things.... not the same old same old from the two main players;)
The real Apache said:
Tried that, and got shouted down by the "any vote for UKIP is a vote for Labour" brigade...people won't step out of their comfort zone I'm afraid
Explain how a vote for UKIP does not help Labour then?In any marginal seat the Tories have a chance of winning, a vote for UKIP helps the other party, whether Labour or (likely to be rare in the future) LibDem.
Zod said:
The real Apache said:
Tried that, and got shouted down by the "any vote for UKIP is a vote for Labour" brigade...people won't step out of their comfort zone I'm afraid
Explain how a vote for UKIP does not help Labour then?In any marginal seat the Tories have a chance of winning, a vote for UKIP helps the other party, whether Labour or (likely to be rare in the future) LibDem.
The real Apache said:
Zod said:
The real Apache said:
Tried that, and got shouted down by the "any vote for UKIP is a vote for Labour" brigade...people won't step out of their comfort zone I'm afraid
Explain how a vote for UKIP does not help Labour then?In any marginal seat the Tories have a chance of winning, a vote for UKIP helps the other party, whether Labour or (likely to be rare in the future) LibDem.
You must vote for this party as they are less s
t then the other partyNo thanks
I'd rather vote for who i belive in and the UK would be alot better off if everyone did that
Zod said:
The real Apache said:
Tried that, and got shouted down by the "any vote for UKIP is a vote for Labour" brigade...people won't step out of their comfort zone I'm afraid
Explain how a vote for UKIP does not help Labour then?In any marginal seat the Tories have a chance of winning, a vote for UKIP helps the other party, whether Labour or (likely to be rare in the future) LibDem.
They espoused policies that many of us wanted to see implemented. However, they have now been in power for a year, so we can now judge them by their actions.
We wanted spending cuts. However spending continues to rise.
We wanted a sensible energy policy, but they are going to build windmills instead.
We want to be protected from criminals, but they have cut the police budget (so that they can build windmills!).
We were promised a "bonfire of quangos". What happened... nothing.
We were promised that all the red tape that Labour saddled us with would be removed.
They said that they would get the state finances under control, and then they increased the International Aid budget. We are borrowing money so that we can give it away.
This government is not acting any differently to a Labour government. Voting Tory to keep Labour out is utterly pointless. Cameron's conservatives are as left wing as most of the Labour party.
Meanwhile, we are sliding further into the mess with another £141bn of government borrowing this year. It would not have been any different if Labour had won the last election.
Don
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Don is absolutely correct, but I'm afraid it's too late to make a difference now. As Zod so perfectly demonstrated, we have been stuck in this mindless 2 party battle for decades and the damage is done, we have a jaded electorate that doesn't vote because they see no difference between the 2 main parties and because of the constant sleaze. Those who do vote can't see the wood for the trees.
As I said I see little point in it anymore as todays politician has neither the experience or interest to run the country, they are totally preoccupied with winning an election then making it impossible to be voted out.
As I said I see little point in it anymore as todays politician has neither the experience or interest to run the country, they are totally preoccupied with winning an election then making it impossible to be voted out.
Edited by The real Apache on Monday 23 May 10:49
F i F said:
powerstroke said:
vote for the smaller partys who have come along with a genuine wish to change things.... not the same old same old from the two main players;)
Isn't that why people voted for the Lib Dims? I'm sort of confused by your proposal to be honest.
Lib Dims
smaller party - check
not one of the same two old parties - check
expressing a genuine desire to change things - check (even if you didn't agree with their policies)
I can only see Lib Dims being consigned to pages of history after the next election.
Just a thought, Lib Dims seem to be having a hard time of it particularly at the moment, this is all to teh advantage of who?
The two main parties of course.
2+2=5 perhaps.
Edited by powerstroke on Monday 23 May 10:49
The real Apache said:
As I said I see little point in it anymore as todays politician has neither the experience or interest to run the country, they are totally preoccupied with winning an election then making it impossible to be voted out.
Like this threadThe utter joy at the prospect of Huhne going.
Why?
He'll only be replaced by another tosser the only benefit will be to the company that does the headed paper.
don4l said:
Zod said:
The real Apache said:
Tried that, and got shouted down by the "any vote for UKIP is a vote for Labour" brigade...people won't step out of their comfort zone I'm afraid
Explain how a vote for UKIP does not help Labour then?In any marginal seat the Tories have a chance of winning, a vote for UKIP helps the other party, whether Labour or (likely to be rare in the future) LibDem.
They espoused policies that many of us wanted to see implemented. However, they have now been in power for a year, so we can now judge them by their actions.
We wanted spending cuts. However spending continues to rise.
We wanted a sensible energy policy, but they are going to build windmills instead.
We want to be protected from criminals, but they have cut the police budget (so that they can build windmills!).
We were promised a "bonfire of quangos". What happened... nothing.
We were promised that all the red tape that Labour saddled us with would be removed.
They said that they would get the state finances under control, and then they increased the International Aid budget. We are borrowing money so that we can give it away.
This government is not acting any differently to a Labour government. Voting Tory to keep Labour out is utterly pointless. Cameron's conservatives are as left wing as most of the Labour party.
Meanwhile, we are sliding further into the mess with another £141bn of government borrowing this year. It would not have been any different if Labour had won the last election.
Don
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The real Apache said:
Zod said:
The real Apache said:
Tried that, and got shouted down by the "any vote for UKIP is a vote for Labour" brigade...people won't step out of their comfort zone I'm afraid
Explain how a vote for UKIP does not help Labour then?In any marginal seat the Tories have a chance of winning, a vote for UKIP helps the other party, whether Labour or (likely to be rare in the future) LibDem.
don4l said:
I think that you have to ask yourself if you really support the Conservatives.
They espoused policies that many of us wanted to see implemented. However, they have now been in power for a year, so we can now judge them by their actions.
We wanted spending cuts. However spending continues to rise.
We wanted a sensible energy policy, but they are going to build windmills instead.
We want to be protected from criminals, but they have cut the police budget (so that they can build windmills!).
We were promised a "bonfire of quangos". What happened... nothing.
We were promised that all the red tape that Labour saddled us with would be removed.
They said that they would get the state finances under control, and then they increased the International Aid budget. We are borrowing money so that we can give it away.
This government is not acting any differently to a Labour government. Voting Tory to keep Labour out is utterly pointless. Cameron's conservatives are as left wing as most of the Labour party.
Meanwhile, we are sliding further into the mess with another £141bn of government borrowing this year. It would not have been any different if Labour had won the last election.
Don
Couldn't have said it better myself. I cried with joy when that criminally incompetent imbecile Brown left with his tail between his legs. Sadly, over the last twelve months, I've become more disillusioned with Politics than I've ever been in my life. We have a Lib-Dem Government now, so desperate is CMD to be in power.They espoused policies that many of us wanted to see implemented. However, they have now been in power for a year, so we can now judge them by their actions.
We wanted spending cuts. However spending continues to rise.
We wanted a sensible energy policy, but they are going to build windmills instead.
We want to be protected from criminals, but they have cut the police budget (so that they can build windmills!).
We were promised a "bonfire of quangos". What happened... nothing.
We were promised that all the red tape that Labour saddled us with would be removed.
They said that they would get the state finances under control, and then they increased the International Aid budget. We are borrowing money so that we can give it away.
This government is not acting any differently to a Labour government. Voting Tory to keep Labour out is utterly pointless. Cameron's conservatives are as left wing as most of the Labour party.
Meanwhile, we are sliding further into the mess with another £141bn of government borrowing this year. It would not have been any different if Labour had won the last election.
Don
The feckless benefit leeches continue to be paid tens of thousands of pounds a year, no action against tax avoidance. Ten billion pounds a year in 'aid' when our country is bankrupt. It's mind boggling. CMD has been a massive disappointment. Same s
t, different tie. I've voted Conservative in every election since I was 18. On their performance over the last twelve months, I can't see that happening again. Quite frankly, they have proved what I've believed for many a year. Politicians are the lowest form of life, who don't give a st about anyone else but themselves.Me too, Conservative every election since 18, except last time.
I was same in same mind as the Real Apache, voted for what I believed in after trying unsuccessfully to engage with CMD's buffoons at both national and local level and was comprehensively ignored, deleted and moderated out.
So never get my vote again.
I was same in same mind as the Real Apache, voted for what I believed in after trying unsuccessfully to engage with CMD's buffoons at both national and local level and was comprehensively ignored, deleted and moderated out.
So never get my vote again.
I don’t know if it’s just me, but I now perceive any UK government of the ‘mainstream’ variety as merely ‘puppets’ for the EU government, and that’s why there is virtually nothing between any of them – at the moment, I am as likely to vote labour as Tory (read – never - not in their current guise)
And why are the Lib-Dems given so much slack, and are usually headline news – I didn’t vote for them and nor did most of the country, so why are we having to suffer them and their lunatic policies now – they are virtual political non-entities!
And why are the Lib-Dems given so much slack, and are usually headline news – I didn’t vote for them and nor did most of the country, so why are we having to suffer them and their lunatic policies now – they are virtual political non-entities!
Things are getting worse for Mr Huhne. The Liberal Democrat Voice has turned against him.
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LibDem Voice said:
Many things in the Coalition are not going well for the Lib Dems. Perhaps our best hope in the medium term is to show that we are not just a protest Party but that we can be a competent Party of Government. However good Huhne is as Energy Secretary it will be overshadowed by the continuing coverage of his private life. He should stand down now, on the understanding that if he is cleared by the police he will be able to re-enter the Government in due course.
If he chooses not to do this then Clegg should show that he will put the interests of the Party first and fire him.
DonIf he chooses not to do this then Clegg should show that he will put the interests of the Party first and fire him.
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Elroy Blue said:
don4l said:
I think that you have to ask yourself if you really support the Conservatives.
They espoused policies that many of us wanted to see implemented. However, they have now been in power for a year, so we can now judge them by their actions.
We wanted spending cuts. However spending continues to rise.
We wanted a sensible energy policy, but they are going to build windmills instead.
We want to be protected from criminals, but they have cut the police budget (so that they can build windmills!).
We were promised a "bonfire of quangos". What happened... nothing.
We were promised that all the red tape that Labour saddled us with would be removed.
They said that they would get the state finances under control, and then they increased the International Aid budget. We are borrowing money so that we can give it away.
This government is not acting any differently to a Labour government. Voting Tory to keep Labour out is utterly pointless. Cameron's conservatives are as left wing as most of the Labour party.
Meanwhile, we are sliding further into the mess with another £141bn of government borrowing this year. It would not have been any different if Labour had won the last election.
Don
Couldn't have said it better myself. I cried with joy when that criminally incompetent imbecile Brown left with his tail between his legs. Sadly, over the last twelve months, I've become more disillusioned with Politics than I've ever been in my life. We have a Lib-Dem Government now, so desperate is CMD to be in power.They espoused policies that many of us wanted to see implemented. However, they have now been in power for a year, so we can now judge them by their actions.
We wanted spending cuts. However spending continues to rise.
We wanted a sensible energy policy, but they are going to build windmills instead.
We want to be protected from criminals, but they have cut the police budget (so that they can build windmills!).
We were promised a "bonfire of quangos". What happened... nothing.
We were promised that all the red tape that Labour saddled us with would be removed.
They said that they would get the state finances under control, and then they increased the International Aid budget. We are borrowing money so that we can give it away.
This government is not acting any differently to a Labour government. Voting Tory to keep Labour out is utterly pointless. Cameron's conservatives are as left wing as most of the Labour party.
Meanwhile, we are sliding further into the mess with another £141bn of government borrowing this year. It would not have been any different if Labour had won the last election.
Don
The feckless benefit leeches continue to be paid tens of thousands of pounds a year, no action against tax avoidance. Ten billion pounds a year in 'aid' when our country is bankrupt. It's mind boggling. CMD has been a massive disappointment. Same s
t, different tie. I've voted Conservative in every election since I was 18. On their performance over the last twelve months, I can't see that happening again. Quite frankly, they have proved what I've believed for many a year. Politicians are the lowest form of life, who don't give a st about anyone else but themselves.Why?
Actually politically the only Scottish party leader with an ounce of vision and leadership is Alex Salmond.
As a unionist at heart I had NO PLACE TO GO.
I feel that the current euro-centric government is NOT what a majority of people voted tory for in the general election, just the opposite in fact.
Look at how our forces have been tasked to do the impossible ONCE AGAIN, look at how OUR independent nuclear deterrent has to rely on OTHER COUNTRIES armed forces to provide airborne cover ahead of the bombers, look at the deceit over the election pledges, the defecit still getting bigger and WHERE ARE THE CUTS to put this country back on track both fiscally and politically?????
Politicians, now what did billy connelly say
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