Jobless mum spends £2k of benefits on christmas
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Deva Link said:
significant benefits on top.
Such as?Off the top of my head those benefits would include:
- 30 days off (if full time) per year: she doesn't work!
- Life insurance: I doubt she is that bothered about it!
- Pension: she is on benefits for the rest of her life. In any case she would need to give up some of her wages (if she were working) to contribute, which may not be beneficial.
Unless she was going to go straight in at supervisor and be happy to work those awkward hours and not see her kids, its not worth her doing.
Just how stupid is this crawling generation of cowardly British people?
How did a once great nation become a cesspit of shouty, unthinking, gullible idiots who attack the weakest members of society just because they have the weakest voice?
EVEN THE DISABLED AND DYING HAVE BEEN VILIFIED.
I am genuinely ashamed of my country, the people in it are a disgrace.
It is apparently OK for an UNELECTED Government of stooges to openly steal BILLIONS of our Tax money and you cower and do NOTHING! You KNOW it is happening because the money is publicly siphoned to the 'special' friends clubs (like the EU sham or criminal banker fiasco) they are even increasing Taxes everywhere (whilst cutting services) so they can do it again but for even more.
YET, its the poor people with nothing who claim benefits who are causing the problem?
The same Government and the same 'special pals' are busy closing small to medium businesses with nonsense bureaucracy so the 'chumley network' can generate more profits through monopolising their cartels. Ironically meaning there are not enough jobs for the population/profit .
But again its people that claim benefits who are the 'real issue'?
Lets not forgo a cheap dig at Johnny Foreigner either, he plays a role too being an easy almost completely voiceless target.
1 thing is clear.
Morons are the only surplus Britain creates now, a shower of
s..
IF this woman and her familys lives are so great (as the whiners moaning are trying to convince everyone) then off you go.
Claim benefits and live the dream yourself.
How did a once great nation become a cesspit of shouty, unthinking, gullible idiots who attack the weakest members of society just because they have the weakest voice?
EVEN THE DISABLED AND DYING HAVE BEEN VILIFIED.
I am genuinely ashamed of my country, the people in it are a disgrace.
It is apparently OK for an UNELECTED Government of stooges to openly steal BILLIONS of our Tax money and you cower and do NOTHING! You KNOW it is happening because the money is publicly siphoned to the 'special' friends clubs (like the EU sham or criminal banker fiasco) they are even increasing Taxes everywhere (whilst cutting services) so they can do it again but for even more.
YET, its the poor people with nothing who claim benefits who are causing the problem?
The same Government and the same 'special pals' are busy closing small to medium businesses with nonsense bureaucracy so the 'chumley network' can generate more profits through monopolising their cartels. Ironically meaning there are not enough jobs for the population/profit .
But again its people that claim benefits who are the 'real issue'?
Lets not forgo a cheap dig at Johnny Foreigner either, he plays a role too being an easy almost completely voiceless target.
1 thing is clear.
Morons are the only surplus Britain creates now, a shower of
s.. IF this woman and her familys lives are so great (as the whiners moaning are trying to convince everyone) then off you go.
Claim benefits and live the dream yourself.
extraT said:
Deva Link said:
significant benefits on top.
Such as?Off the top of my head those benefits would include:
- 30 days off (if full time) per year: she doesn't work!
- Life insurance: I doubt she is that bothered about it!
- Pension: she is on benefits for the rest of her life. In any case she would need to give up some of her wages (if she were working) to contribute, which may not be beneficial.
Unless she was going to go straight in at supervisor and be happy to work those awkward hours and not see her kids, its not worth her doing.
£159.33 Working tax credit and child tax credit.
£43.43 Your full rent of £111.00 per week will be reduced by £43.43 per week
£33.70 Child Benefit
Total Entitlements £12,329.90 £236.46 weekly
DonkeyApple said:
Negative Creep said:
vdp1 said:
If only I was in charge of the benefits system.
9am monday down the office: ring ring.
dole scum: 'yea, what is is mate, I aint got no money in my bank in it'
me: Well have you done any work in the last two weeks sir?
DS: 'na mate, me aint done nufink bro'
me: well there's you fking problem then you lazy fking tt.
In fact the best answer would be to use the benefits money to pay for child care between true working hours, say 0700 to 1800, or earlier/later if needs be. That way the 'parents' would have no excuse not to go to work as the kids would be looked after and fed. And if they didn't bother then who cares what happens to them.
I would gladly pay more taxes just to see the great unwashed stood at a bus stop in the dark in January heading off to put nuts and bolts in a cardboard box all day for £6.
Presumably your system will treat people who are laid off through no fault of their own and looking for work but unable to find it exactly the same?9am monday down the office: ring ring.
dole scum: 'yea, what is is mate, I aint got no money in my bank in it'
me: Well have you done any work in the last two weeks sir?
DS: 'na mate, me aint done nufink bro'
me: well there's you f
king problem then you lazy fking tt.In fact the best answer would be to use the benefits money to pay for child care between true working hours, say 0700 to 1800, or earlier/later if needs be. That way the 'parents' would have no excuse not to go to work as the kids would be looked after and fed. And if they didn't bother then who cares what happens to them.
I would gladly pay more taxes just to see the great unwashed stood at a bus stop in the dark in January heading off to put nuts and bolts in a cardboard box all day for £6.
Negative Creep said:
DonkeyApple said:
Negative Creep said:
vdp1 said:
If only I was in charge of the benefits system.
9am monday down the office: ring ring.
dole scum: 'yea, what is is mate, I aint got no money in my bank in it'
me: Well have you done any work in the last two weeks sir?
DS: 'na mate, me aint done nufink bro'
me: well there's you fking problem then you lazy fking tt.
In fact the best answer would be to use the benefits money to pay for child care between true working hours, say 0700 to 1800, or earlier/later if needs be. That way the 'parents' would have no excuse not to go to work as the kids would be looked after and fed. And if they didn't bother then who cares what happens to them.
I would gladly pay more taxes just to see the great unwashed stood at a bus stop in the dark in January heading off to put nuts and bolts in a cardboard box all day for £6.
Presumably your system will treat people who are laid off through no fault of their own and looking for work but unable to find it exactly the same?9am monday down the office: ring ring.
dole scum: 'yea, what is is mate, I aint got no money in my bank in it'
me: Well have you done any work in the last two weeks sir?
DS: 'na mate, me aint done nufink bro'
me: well there's you f
king problem then you lazy fking tt.In fact the best answer would be to use the benefits money to pay for child care between true working hours, say 0700 to 1800, or earlier/later if needs be. That way the 'parents' would have no excuse not to go to work as the kids would be looked after and fed. And if they didn't bother then who cares what happens to them.
I would gladly pay more taxes just to see the great unwashed stood at a bus stop in the dark in January heading off to put nuts and bolts in a cardboard box all day for £6.
My guess is that it would need to be somewhere between 6-9 months to be reasonable?
You would also set it so that this can't be triggered until a person has done 'x' years work. This would stop kids getting used to not having to work and prevent the migration of non workers.
At the same time you have to ensure that people who do non paying work that is beneficial to society as a whole can earn an 'income'. So this aspect would support social volunteers and also maybe extend to the function of raising children?
One thing is currently for sure and that is that a woman with 2 young children and no real qualifications is probably benefiting society more by using her time to raise those two children than leaving them to strangers while earning the same money they get from benefits.
Part of the current social issue has to be a result of the breakdown/change of the family unit. But one could easy argue that this has been a result of excessive welfare in the first instance and that removing this so that communities revert to relying on each other rather than being a collection of isolated households sent money by the state.
There is clearly no easy answer but the evidence clearly supports the arguement that we humans are essentially programmed to follow the easiest path and when the path is too easy then it leads to a massive moral decline, rapidly.
Unfortunately, us humans for the most part need a spot of fear to motivate us. Curb welfare rewards and people won't suddenly start dying in the streets, what will happen after the period of social unrest, is that people will simply go and get jobs one way or another. Some of those jobs will be illegal but the vast majority will be the basic jobs that we currently have to import low level labour for.
My personal view is that excessive money corrupts and that if you pull this back then many of our irritating social ills will actually resolve themselves as just a function of human nature.
The saying 'be cruel to be kind' has, like many sayings, it's roots in common sense.
Whether the Conservatives are doing anything is questionable but if you wanted to remove damaging benefits from the masses you would start with small steps and the first of which would be to remove them from the middle classes, so maybe we are on the right track.
Regardless, it is madness to blame the recipients of welfare. If someone knocked on our door and offered us a genuine no strings attached £1k we would take it. It wouldn't make us wrong or evil. If we were then told that we could either continue to go to work or just be sent the same amount of money each month for doing nothing then the average person would take the latter. It's just human nature and in many cases simply the sensible option.
But, start removing this free money to the point that getting up and sweeping streets gives you a better standard of living and people will go and find work, especially if there are active programmes to bring real jobs to blighted areas etc.
vdp1 said:
If only I was in charge of the benefits system.
9am monday down the office: ring ring.
dole scum: 'yea, what is is mate, I aint got no money in my bank in it'
me: Well have you done any work in the last two weeks sir?
DS: 'na mate, me aint done nufink bro'
me: well there's you fking problem then you lazy fking tt.
In fact the best answer would be to use the benefits money to pay for child care between true working hours, say 0700 to 1800, or earlier/later if needs be. That way the 'parents' would have no excuse not to go to work as the kids would be looked after and fed. And if they didn't bother then who cares what happens to them.
I would gladly pay more taxes just to see the great unwashed stood at a bus stop in the dark in January heading off to put nuts and bolts in a cardboard box all day for £6.
Id bet money youre ignorant enough to believe this would fix the problem? 9am monday down the office: ring ring.
dole scum: 'yea, what is is mate, I aint got no money in my bank in it'
me: Well have you done any work in the last two weeks sir?
DS: 'na mate, me aint done nufink bro'
me: well there's you f
king problem then you lazy fking tt.In fact the best answer would be to use the benefits money to pay for child care between true working hours, say 0700 to 1800, or earlier/later if needs be. That way the 'parents' would have no excuse not to go to work as the kids would be looked after and fed. And if they didn't bother then who cares what happens to them.
I would gladly pay more taxes just to see the great unwashed stood at a bus stop in the dark in January heading off to put nuts and bolts in a cardboard box all day for £6.
Another brain-dead mouthbreathing tt. Regurgitating a tired old Daily Mail scenario is the best effort at a 'solution' you have? Thats it is it?
An exemplary simpleton and grade A tool combined is a rare thing, I genuinely pity those that have to be around you.
I applaud you for 1 thing.
Your imbicillic response means I need to readjust my understanding of what an "ignorant idiot" is,
you've shown me a whole new level of stupidity that I never even knew existed.
Bravo
JagLover said:
thinfourth2 said:
Poor little tories voters were sold a pup
Osbourne had a hard enough job getting a mere 1% rise in benefits past the Lib Dems.The Coalition cannot roll it back in 5 years. Any such roll back may never happen.
At least, not until the money runs out.
Negative Creep said:
vdp1 said:
If only I was in charge of the benefits system.
9am monday down the office: ring ring.
dole scum: 'yea, what is is mate, I aint got no money in my bank in it'
me: Well have you done any work in the last two weeks sir?
DS: 'na mate, me aint done nufink bro'
me: well there's you fking problem then you lazy fking tt.
In fact the best answer would be to use the benefits money to pay for child care between true working hours, say 0700 to 1800, or earlier/later if needs be. That way the 'parents' would have no excuse not to go to work as the kids would be looked after and fed. And if they didn't bother then who cares what happens to them.
I would gladly pay more taxes just to see the great unwashed stood at a bus stop in the dark in January heading off to put nuts and bolts in a cardboard box all day for £6.
Presumably your system will treat people who are laid off through no fault of their own and looking for work but unable to find it exactly the same?9am monday down the office: ring ring.
dole scum: 'yea, what is is mate, I aint got no money in my bank in it'
me: Well have you done any work in the last two weeks sir?
DS: 'na mate, me aint done nufink bro'
me: well there's you f
king problem then you lazy fking tt.In fact the best answer would be to use the benefits money to pay for child care between true working hours, say 0700 to 1800, or earlier/later if needs be. That way the 'parents' would have no excuse not to go to work as the kids would be looked after and fed. And if they didn't bother then who cares what happens to them.
I would gladly pay more taxes just to see the great unwashed stood at a bus stop in the dark in January heading off to put nuts and bolts in a cardboard box all day for £6.
My father in law has never worked in the entire time I've known him (25+ years). He lives in a reasonable 3 bed place, 2 streets from me, has a new car every few years (motability), and never seems short of money (has a flat screen, sky, mobile phone etc).
Something is very wrong with the way benefits work.
Pistonwot said:
Id bet money youre ignorant enough to believe this would fix the problem? Another brain-dead mouthbreathing tt.
Regurgitating a tired old Daily Mail scenario is the best effort at a 'solution' you have? Thats it is it?
An exemplary simpleton and grade A tool combined is a rare thing, I genuinely pity those that have to be around you.
I applaud you for 1 thing.
Your imbicillic response means I need to readjust my understanding of what an "ignorant idiot" is,
you've shown me a whole new level of stupidity that I never even knew existed.
Bravo
The irony is strong with this one. Another brain-dead mouthbreathing tt. Regurgitating a tired old Daily Mail scenario is the best effort at a 'solution' you have? Thats it is it?
An exemplary simpleton and grade A tool combined is a rare thing, I genuinely pity those that have to be around you.
I applaud you for 1 thing.
Your imbicillic response means I need to readjust my understanding of what an "ignorant idiot" is,
you've shown me a whole new level of stupidity that I never even knew existed.
Bravo
Ari said:
Globs said:
That's all very lovely, but you forget one inconvenient fact: We KNOW people who do this.
Do you though? Really? Single mums on benefits out every weekend and spending £2.5k on their kids at Christmas?I doubt it.
98elise said:
Thats pretty much what happens if you have any income coming in. I was laid off at 46, wife working part time on minimum wage, 2 kids in school. We got job seekers and nothing else. £60 per week......thats it.
My father in law has never worked in the entire time I've known him (25+ years). He lives in a reasonable 3 bed place, 2 streets from me, has a new car every few years (motability), and never seems short of money (has a flat screen, sky, mobile phone etc).
Something is very wrong with the way benefits work.
And yes I do know a single mum from Slovakia, she was a bit picky about her free house but yes, she's getting on fine now and always amazes the staff where she used to work (she decided to stop working and become a single mum), when she comes in during the day and spends our money.My father in law has never worked in the entire time I've known him (25+ years). He lives in a reasonable 3 bed place, 2 streets from me, has a new car every few years (motability), and never seems short of money (has a flat screen, sky, mobile phone etc).
Something is very wrong with the way benefits work.
The thing people forget is that living fully on benefits is like living with mum and day - every extra pound is like pocket money - you can just spend it all without worrying about home repaires, car repairs/servicing, pensions etc. Their spare money is REALLY spare, whereas our money - the sucker taxpayer - needs to be put away for a rainy day because the council won't insulate our home for free, replace the roof, put a new boiler and double glazing in - will they?.
I have noticed a few of the racist comments from earlier have gone, as well as a couple of replies quoting them and pointing out the fact, Inc mine.
Who's deleting these? not me certainly. Strange, no notice, I can understand the posters not wanting to stand by racist dribble but they can't delete others responded who call them on it.
Mods?
Who's deleting these? not me certainly. Strange, no notice, I can understand the posters not wanting to stand by racist dribble but they can't delete others responded who call them on it.
Mods?
Let's say she really spent 2k of benefits money she'd saved over a year on Xmas presents for her children. What is that a week? £40 or so. Could be easily made from not smoking and putting aside her child benefit payments.
The bit that got me from reading this thread was that there's no requirement for her to seek work until her youngest is 5. I don't know of anyone with children who can afford to do this.
The bit that got me from reading this thread was that there's no requirement for her to seek work until her youngest is 5. I don't know of anyone with children who can afford to do this.
RedTrident said:
The bit that got me from reading this thread was that there's no requirement for her to seek work until her youngest is 5.
There's no point - childcare would cost a fair bit more than she was likely to be able to earn, and, in a low paid job, she'd be getting more (a lot more with childcare tax benefits) in benefits (on top of her salary) than she it now.RedTrident said:
I don't know of anyone with children who can afford to do this.
So either they earn a lot more than the sort of money this girl could get, or they rely on family for childcare. If they had to pay the full cost (typically £40 per child per day) they'd have to earn a chunky salary to make it worthwhile, escecially one you've taken travel costs into account. There is some tax relief available on childcare costs, but it's limited. Childcare vouchers using salary sacrifice is available too, but benefits the higher paid more.
Edited by Deva Link on Sunday 16th December 19:55
Tampon said:
I have noticed a few of the racist comments from earlier have gone, as well as a couple of replies quoting them and pointing out the fact, Inc mine.
Who's deleting these? not me certainly. Strange, no notice, I can understand the posters not wanting to stand by racist dribble but they can't delete others responded who call them on it.
Mods?
normally means the posts have been reported and deleted, other posts that contain them are also deleted. Hopefully the retards have also been banned.Who's deleting these? not me certainly. Strange, no notice, I can understand the posters not wanting to stand by racist dribble but they can't delete others responded who call them on it.
Mods?
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