US Journalists Shot Dead On Air

[MrBarry123]

Just watched both the camera POV and shooter POV videos on LiveLeak.

Jesus Christ. Horrible. Neither stood a chance, completely unaware.

[AJL308]

MrBarry123 said:

Just watched both the camera POV and shooter POV videos on LiveLeak.

Jesus Christ. Horrible. Neither stood a chance, completely unaware.

I find it quite repulsive that people choose to seek out and watch st like this, to be honest. I have absolutely zero desire to see it.

That's even before you get into any discussion about how it just fuels the next fktard nutter.

[Gandahar]

More guns, more deaths by shooting.

For whatever reason. It's a no brainer,statistics show that. Yet in the US of A it never that, it is always down to some other factor like lack of education or training, or mentally ill people getting them or this that or the other. this, that, the other. bks, the reason is you have too many guns to close to hand.

As Homer J Simpson would cleverly say

"Doh"


People in the US love their guns because they are more in tune with John Wayne protecting the homestead in the 19th C than being part of the world in the 21st C.

The problem is that if the US clings to their old fashioned beliefs it's going to look more ridiculous in the 22nd Century than it does today. When are they going to wake up?

[paranoid airbag]

Willy Nilly said:

It's sad for the 2 people he shot and to a lessor extent for the gun man, but not sad in the slightest for the country.

They have got themselves into this mess and they will have to put up with various mass and or high profile shooting like this until they act in someway to stop it. It won't happen, guns are to ingrained into US culture. Maybe it would be better if these incidents weren't even reported, hard to do in this instance, bt I feel a lot are looking for fame and notoriety.

It's not shocking in the slightest, unless you truly know nothing about people.

The 2nd protects the 1st, eh? Seems to work brilliantly. You could get that engraved on their tombstone - "the government didn't kill me, hooray".

[MrBarry123]

AJL308 said:

MrBarry123 said:

Just watched both the camera POV and shooter POV videos on LiveLeak.

Jesus Christ. Horrible. Neither stood a chance, completely unaware.

I find it quite repulsive that people choose to seek out and watch st like this, to be honest. I have absolutely zero desire to see it.

That's even before you get into any discussion about how it just fuels the next fktard nutter.

As you would expect, I don't agree.

The vast majority of people see these kinds of stories on the news and just glaze over; killing having becoming almost normalised to us now. If more people watched the video, maybe we wouldn't be so comfortable with senseless murder and be more, quite rightly, repulsed by what is happening in the world these days.

[Sheets Tabuer]

AJL308 said:

I find it quite repulsive that people choose to seek out and watch st like this

I'm a very sensitive soul but I've seen some horrors in my life, I firmly believe people need to see stuff, from this to ISIS throwing people off buildings. People need to squirm, they need to see the horror man does so they do something about it.

[No Bend]

Sheets Tabuer said:

AJL308 said:

I find it quite repulsive that people choose to seek out and watch st like this

I'm a very sensitive soul but I've seen some horrors in my life, I firmly believe people need to see stuff, from this to ISIS throwing people off buildings. People need to squirm, they need to see the horror man does so they do something about it.

I stupidly watched that Jordanian pilot being burned. That was a mistake, I wouldn't recommend it as viewing.

[Blaster72]

AJL308 said:

MrBarry123 said:

Just watched both the camera POV and shooter POV videos on LiveLeak.

Jesus Christ. Horrible. Neither stood a chance, completely unaware.

I find it quite repulsive that people choose to seek out and watch st like this, to be honest. I have absolutely zero desire to see it.

That's even before you get into any discussion about how it just fuels the next fktard nutter.

Every time something like this comes up the ghouls come out and start sharing and watching what are essentially snuff movies, I don't understand it either and never will. Like the beheading videos, I've no idea why someone would want to seek this video out and sit at home watching it.

Some people are just wired up differently to you and me I guess.

[Blaster72]

Sheets Tabuer said:

AJL308 said:

I find it quite repulsive that people choose to seek out and watch st like this

I'm a very sensitive soul but I've seen some horrors in my life, I firmly believe people need to see stuff, from this to ISIS throwing people off buildings. People need to squirm, they need to see the horror man does so they do something about it.

I disagree but we're all different. I can imagine what happened without having to see those poor young people murdered from a POV camera.

[jogger1976]

I've seen some pretty shocking stuff on the net', but that first-person footage was some of the most creepy, surreal and fked up st I've ever witnessed.

Without wanting to sound flippant, it was almost like GTA made real

On a side note, I think this footage has finally convinced me that I'm done with the USA as a holiday destination.

[Baryonyx]

jogger1976 said:

On a side note, I think this footage has finally convinced me that I'm done with the USA as a holiday destination.

Why do people in times like this strive to outdo each other with their most ridiculous asseverations? Virginia is an absolutely wonderful place, you'd be poorer for not going. You're far more likely to be killed by a runaway donkey cart in the UK than you are getting shot whilst on holiday in America.

[dandarez]

Blaster72 said:

Sheets Tabuer said:

AJL308 said:

I find it quite repulsive that people choose to seek out and watch st like this

I'm a very sensitive soul but I've seen some horrors in my life, I firmly believe people need to see stuff, from this to ISIS throwing people off buildings. People need to squirm, they need to see the horror man does so they do something about it.

I disagree but we're all different. I can imagine what happened without having to see those poor young people murdered from a POV camera.

Not forgetting that the more this kind of stuff happens, 'eventually' is it possible we may become totally emotionally and cognitively desensitised to these forms of crazed violence?

Extreme scenario?
'Oh yeah I agree Dan, it's happening so often these days. Talk of the devil, Dan, look. That guy has just had his head blown off across the road by another nutter. Seems they're all over the place these days.
What was that you saying?
Oh okay, let's go for that pint now, good idea!'

[anonymous-user]

On the other side we generally make better decisions when desensitised. Perhaps it's best to have a balance of those who are desensitised to make decisions, and those who are not to remind those who are why such decisions need to be made.

[RDMcG]

I worry about the convergence of two things here.

(1) The universal selfie.
It seems as if a significant number of people have a narcissistic need to post everything about their lives, Facebook/twitter addiction that is some kind of ego driven need to display ( or in current parlance "share"),

(2) In the US and elsewhere, the availability of firepower.

This deranged person not only destroyed perfectly innocent people, but needed to post the result. Think about it. He is ready to kill himself, and does,but he needs to post on Twitter and Facebook. More important than committing suicide.

We have brought narcissism to the level of selfie murder.

[rxtx]

I think you have 1 and 2 mixed up.

[JumboBeef]

Blaster72 said:

I can imagine what happened without having to see those poor young people murdered from a POV camera.

Now deemed as family viewing. Staring at you from every front page today, it will be hard for anyone, including children, to avoid it today:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-3407037...

[JumboBeef]

This is different though.

I know two people were killed, but the woman was the main focus of the POV.

You see a healthy, attractive young woman, just doing her job, then she is shot. She is defenceless and is shot repealty as she tries to escape.

This isn't some movie or game, no matter how realistic it is we know that is fake. This is real, and we are watching the last seconds of this woman's life as she dies in terror.

I hope everyone in America sees it. Maybe, just maybe people might start to take on board what "shot" actually means.

[walm]

Wishful thinking, sadly.
Gun nuts already saying that obviously the reporter and cameraman should have been packing, that would have saved them.

While the steps forward with homophobia and racism/sexism etc... have been astonishing over my lifetime, the needle just isn't moving for guns.

[S10GTA]

That graph is really interesting, showing the peaks and troughs. You can clearly see the 9/11 effect. but what are the other spikes?

[Ste1987]

S10GTA said:

That graph is really interesting, showing the peaks and troughs. You can clearly see the 9/11 effect. but what are the other spikes?

For the previous spike, wasn't that around the time of the first attack on the WTC?