Iplayer to need TV licence from 1/9/2016 - full fee required

[oyster]

dudleybloke said:

Maybe if the BBC made more shows that are good enough to be sold worldwide and stopped bidding on sports tournaments trying to compete with commercial channels they could reduce the TV tax to a reasonable level.

Reasonable level?

It's the cheapest entertainment of all.


A meal out costs more than an entire year of television and radio access.

[Welshbeef]

oyster said:

Reasonable level?

It's the cheapest entertainment of all.


A meal out costs more than an entire year of television and radio access.

Yea.

We're all here arguing the toss over £144 a year!!
If that's the biggest concern the non payers have their lives must be pretty sweet - then again they are ignoring the big pink elephant in the room our Ponzi state pension and most public sector pension Ponzi schemes which we are all on the hook for -oh well if that helps them sleep at night

[danllama]

What grinds me is that i'm paying for biased crap. If it was balanced I would have no issue with it. The way they handled the referendum and brexit is something I will never forgive or forget.

I will not be renewing my tv license when I move home soon.

[Welshbeef]

danllama said:

What grinds me is that i'm paying for biased crap. If it was balanced I would have no issue with it. The way they handled the referendum and brexit is something I will never forgive or forget.

I will not be renewing my tv license when I move home soon.

Forgive and forget?

Jesus you don't have very thick skin do you.

[eldar]

danllama said:

What grinds me is that i'm paying for biased crap. If it was balanced I would have no issue with it. The way they handled the referendum and brexit is something I will never forgive or forget.

I will not be renewing my tv license when I move home soon.

Any idea where you could find unbiased mainstream media?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2QZprRgxDc

[anonymous-user]

Is Eric OK I mean its about the BBC and its gone 7 pages and no word from him ..................................

[98elise]

AJL308 said:

technodup said:

AJL308 said:

Why not just fund the BBC out of general taxation? How about every Premiership player having to give, say, £10K a week of the insane wages they earn towards the BBC?

How about forgetting new taxes and just let people buy what they want?

I tend to agree but you are quoting me out of context. The argument is made that the BBC exists for the benefit of the country as a whole and is not intended to operate along commercial lines. It is there to provide what cannot, or will not, be provided by other operators.

Why do they have soap operas on in the evening, and Saturday night celeb shows then? Day time stuff is all pretty much by the numbers as well, its either

1. Filming the public
2. Game shows
3. Antiques
4. all of the above

The BBC are essentially taking customers from commercial channels, and making you pay for it even if you only use the commercial channels. That alone seems wrong.

TV is entertainment, and is becoming less relevant as every year goes by. My kids do not watch broadcast TV ever. They watch Netflix, Youtube or Facebook. We're even going that way. TV is on because we're used to it but generally we're paying more attention to our tablets. My kids have a play room with a TV. It broke 3 months ago and after initially telling me it didn't work they never mentioned it again.

[Welshbeef]

98elise said:

Why do they have soap operas on in the evening, and Saturday night celeb shows then? Day time stuff is all pretty much by the numbers as well, its either

1. Filming the public
2. Game shows
3. Antiques
4. all of the above

The BBC are essentially taking customers from commercial channels, and making you pay for it even if you only use the commercial channels. That alone seems wrong.

TV is entertainment, and is becoming less relevant as every year goes by. My kids do not watch broadcast TV ever. They watch Netflix, Youtube or Facebook. We're even going that way. TV is on because we're used to it but generally we're paying more attention to our tablets. My kids have a play room with a TV. It broke 3 months ago and after initially telling me it didn't work they never mentioned it again.

Can I suggest your kids watch CBeebies it is exceptional truly educational unlike the normal cartoons you get on sky kids channels.

You can pass me a Internet pint for that .

[21TonyK]

Changes also mean that students in a shared house (with individual tenancy agreements) all need separate licenses so they can watch iPlayer on their laptops.

Doubt many will.

[Welshbeef]

21TonyK said:

Changes also mean that students in a shared house (with individual tenancy agreements) all need separate licenses so they can watch iPlayer on their laptops.

Doubt many will.

They will need to input a TV licence number.


Really & Ive done this before - landlord should pay TV licence and simply add that into the rental cost. Takes away all the churn hassle.

[21TonyK]

Welshbeef said:

They will need to input a TV licence number.


Really & Ive done this before - landlord should pay TV licence and simply add that into the rental cost. Takes away all the churn hassle.

If its a shared tenancy you can but if they have individual tenancy agreements then they all need their own license.

9 students in a big house. 9 licenses.

[CrutyRammers]

Welshbeef said:

They will need to input a TV licence number.

So how do you stop people sharing numbers around?
It's a model that's totally at odds with how the world is now, and can only be made to work by a very costly process of chasing people through the courts, which achieves what, exactly, for society?

[Welshbeef]

CrutyRammers said:

Welshbeef said:

They will need to input a TV licence number.

So how do you stop people sharing numbers around?
It's a model that's totally at odds with how the world is now, and can only be made to work by a very costly process of chasing people through the courts, which achieves what, exactly, for society?

Limit the number of users per licence.

Just like sky do with sky go.

[AJL308]

98elise said:

AJL308 said:

technodup said:

AJL308 said:

Why not just fund the BBC out of general taxation? How about every Premiership player having to give, say, £10K a week of the insane wages they earn towards the BBC?

How about forgetting new taxes and just let people buy what they want?

I tend to agree but you are quoting me out of context. The argument is made that the BBC exists for the benefit of the country as a whole and is not intended to operate along commercial lines. It is there to provide what cannot, or will not, be provided by other operators.

Why do they have soap operas on in the evening, and Saturday night celeb shows then? Day time stuff is all pretty much by the numbers as well, its either

1. Filming the public
2. Game shows
3. Antiques
4. all of the above

The BBC are essentially taking customers from commercial channels, and making you pay for it even if you only use the commercial channels. That alone seems wrong.

TV is entertainment, and is becoming less relevant as every year goes by. My kids do not watch broadcast TV ever. They watch Netflix, Youtube or Facebook. We're even going that way. TV is on because we're used to it but generally we're paying more attention to our tablets. My kids have a play room with a TV. It broke 3 months ago and after initially telling me it didn't work they never mentioned it again.

I totally agree. It isn't 'public service' broadcasting. That's just the excuse used for the BBC to exist in its current form.

While they are making that excuse though, it is surely a reasonable argument that something which exists for the greater public benefit should be paid for by the public as a whole.

[Efbe]

Welshbeef said:

VolvoT5 said:

Long term I don't see how the licence fee model of funding the BBC is going to be viable. How can they enforce this anyway, it is already possible to stream pay per view TV like sky sports free.

I've asked lots of times on here about this legal ability to stream pay TV for free - no one has given instructions on how his is done. We want to share this info to Martin Lewis Money saving expert to save many people lots of money legally.
Why will noone here - who have already stated they do stream and watch all the stuff I watch & pay for - post up about how you do it.

I don't know how you can get to see a film before its gone on DVD /blue ray release - for free. Simply how is that possible? Surely if everyone did that no one would make any films ? Is that the reason there is no one confirming how it's done - or is there a nudge nudge wink wink rolled up trouser leg initiation/ or there is no fight club there is no fight club you will not talk about fight club?

google: Kodi
or search on ebay for: Kodi

[CrutyRammers]

Welshbeef said:

Limit the number of users per licence.

Just like sky do with sky go.

You'd have to mean "devices" as you've no way of knowing how many users there are. So, how many do you reckon? 6? 10? Enough for a house full of students to buy 1 licence between them and thus get around the law.

[Welshbeef]

Efbe said:

google: Kodi
or search on ebay for: Kodi

Apple iPhone doesn't allow that application ?

[ashleyman]

Welshbeef said:

Apple iPhone doesn't allow that application ?

I've got it on my iPhone and it works perfectly.

[Ian974]

I think the thing that shows how in touch the licence fee is, is the fact it still offers a discounted rate for watching in black and white. I'd be surprised if there is really any practical way for someone to watch live broadcast digital TV with a black and white set which is still operational.
I'd have no issue with paying the licence fee if I actually watched anything either on TV or iPlayer, but all I have is a Netflix subscription. Why pay a licence fee for something you don't use?

[crofty1984]

I've not had a TV licence for years. Not going to get one now, I'd rather put the money towards Netflix or pies. Shame, the new robot wars looked good, but not £145 worth.

Edited by crofty1984 on Thursday 4th August 22:01