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[davidball]

Ah the usual pro police drivel from La Liga. Perhaps the plans to only accept recruits with a degree will up the standards. It will be interesting to see how the Bristol plod wriggle out of this one. Will tax payers money be paid in compensation yet again?

[Greendubber]

davidball said:

Ah the usual pro police drivel from La Liga. Perhaps the plans to only accept recruits with a degree will up the standards. It will be interesting to see how the Bristol plod wriggle out of this one. Will tax payers money be paid in compensation yet again?

And the usual narrow minded rubbish from you.

[anonymous-user]

davidball said:

Ah the usual pro police drivel from La Liga.

Just because you don't understand anything about the subjects you're so keen to comment about doesn't mean anything I write is drivel.

Why don't you go and learn something about these matters? It's all online.

[Greendubber]

La Liga said:

ust because you don't understand anything about the subjects you're so keen to comment about doesn't mean anything I write is drivel.

Why don't you go and learn something about these matters?

I'll tell you why he wont, huge prejudice.

[alfie2244]

davidball said:

Ah the usual pro police drivel from La Liga. Perhaps the plans to only accept recruits with a degree will up the standards. It will be interesting to see how the Bristol plod wriggle out of this one. Will tax payers money be paid in compensation yet again?

Just heard he got compo for a similar thing last time(damaged shoulder) is that what you mean "yet again"

[SystemParanoia]

Greendubber said:

La Liga said:

ust because you don't understand anything about the subjects you're so keen to comment about doesn't mean anything I write is drivel.

Why don't you go and learn something about these matters?

I'll tell you why he wont, huge prejudice.

Yes both from you and la liga

[Bigends]

This was always a worry when rolling taser out - it would be used as a compliance tool rather than in self defence as per in the USA. Had he been punching and swinging at them - then maybe a different matter - this was merely resistance on his part which all cops on here will have dealt with without resorting to the use of weapons. Maybe could have paid some attention to the bloke filming as well and maybe got him to engage in the incident if he knew the bloke....and how about the woman officer stop pissing about shouting and waving the taser about and actually laying hands on the bloke and helping her colleague out?

Edited by Bigends on Friday 20th January 19:00

[anonymous-user]

SystemParanoia said:

Greendubber said:

La Liga said:

ust because you don't understand anything about the subjects you're so keen to comment about doesn't mean anything I write is drivel.

Why don't you go and learn something about these matters?

I'll tell you why he wont, huge prejudice.

Yes both from you and la liga

How's that, because I talk about the law and things that are actually relevant to the matter as opposed to yourself who says it's wrong therefore it is?

Wow, what an intelligent, rational and cohesive argument you put forward.

You're another one whose keenness to post your opinion on the matter is sadly well below your willingness to actually learn something about it.

[anonymous-user]

Rude-boy said:

Stop being such an obtuse individual.

Would the Police have drawn and fired the Taser if he had complied with their reasonable request to identify himself.

None of your "I know my rights and they'f have to arrest me to find that out if i don;t want them to."

Really simple. If a Police officer asks you to identify yourself are you more likely (in the UK) to get tasered if you say -

A) "No I am not Joe Bloggs I am Fred Smith. I have my wallet in my back pocket with photo ID in there - let me show you."

or

B) "No I am not Joe Bloggs and I don't have to tell you who I am unless you want to arrest me" and walk off.

Choosing B doesn't warrant being tasered, surely he did more than that?

[pinchmeimdreamin]

Bigends said:

This was always a worry when rolling taser out - it would be used as a compliance tool rather than in self defence as per in the USA. Had he been punching and swinging at them - then maybe a different matter - this was merely resistance on his part which all cops on here will have dealt with without resorting to the use of weapons. Maybe could have paid some attention to the bloke filming as well and maybe got him to engage in the incident if he knew the bloke.

But we don't know what happened in the big chunk of video the "good Samaritan" cut from his footage, It went from the police telling the man to be calm to him battling with the officers through the gate.

What happened inbetween ?

[anonymous-user]

Bigends said:

This was always a worry when rolling taser out - it would be used as a compliance tool rather than in self defence as per in the USA.

Her justification is clearly going to go down the route of self-defence.

[anonymous-user]

La Liga said:

er justification is clearly going to go down the route of self-defence.

If it is found there was no requirement for any force would you expect criminal charges to be brought?

How reliable is the body camera?

[Rovinghawk]

La Liga said:

er justification is clearly going to go down the route of self-defence.

He was backing away with empty hands when she fired.

Edited by Rovinghawk on Friday 20th January 19:10

[anonymous-user]

Rovinghawk said:

La Liga said:

er justification is clearly going to go down the route of self-defence.

He was backing away with raisd empty hands when she fired.

That's not very good.

[Greendubber]

La Liga said:

SystemParanoia said:

Greendubber said:

La Liga said:

ust because you don't understand anything about the subjects you're so keen to comment about doesn't mean anything I write is drivel.

Why don't you go and learn something about these matters?

I'll tell you why he wont, huge prejudice.

Yes both from you and la liga

How's that, because I talk about the law and things that are actually relevant to the matter as opposed to yourself who says it's wrong therefore it is?

Wow, what an intelligent, rational and cohesive argument you put forward.

You're another one whose keenness to post your opinion on the matter is sadly well below your willingness to actually learn something about it.

Spot on.

[pinchmeimdreamin]

Rovinghawk said:

He was backing away with empty hands after having fought with and pushed both officers away when she fired.

Edited by Rovinghawk on Friday 20th January 19:10

Fixed that for you

[Bigends]

La Liga said:

Bigends said:

This was always a worry when rolling taser out - it would be used as a compliance tool rather than in self defence as per in the USA.

Her justification is clearly going to go down the route of self-defence.

From what??? He was hardly laying into the pair of them. Had he subdued the male cop then maybe - this was certainly not justified - the matter wasnt out of hand by any stretch - surely youve handled worse than this without resorting to weapons havent you??

Edited by Bigends on Friday 20th January 19:16

[Rovinghawk]

pinchmeimdreamin said:

Rovinghawk said:

He was backing away with empty hands after having fought with and pushed both officers away when she fired.

Edited by Rovinghawk on Friday 20th January 19:10

Fixed that for you

At the time she fired he was not a threat.

[Greendubber]

Rovinghawk said:

La Liga said:

er justification is clearly going to go down the route of self-defence.

He was backing away with empty hands when she fired.

Edited by Rovinghawk on Friday 20th January 19:10

Are we watching the same clip?

After he's trying to close a gate on the officers they end up on the pavement and the chap in blue is struggling with the male officer. That officer moves away and she deploys taser.

ETA: glad you've changed it from raised empty hands, seeing what you wanted to see rather than what actually happened perhaps?

Edited by Greendubber on Friday 20th January 19:19

[Greendubber]

Rovinghawk said:

pinchmeimdreamin said:

Rovinghawk said:

He was backing away with empty hands after having fought with and pushed both officers away when she fired.

Edited by Rovinghawk on Friday 20th January 19:10

Fixed that for you

At the time she fired he was not a threat.

Of course he could have been a threat, he's just squashed them in a gate and struggled with the male officer. He made no suggestion he would comply within the half a second it took for the male officer to push him away.