Labour MP Jo Cox Shot

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Laurel Green

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234 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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There was certainly a couple in a dingy with a small child or two during the demonstration, as I thought when seeing it on the news that it was not best a wise decision.

Digga

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285 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Oakey said:
Was she actually there with the Geldof thing? I just thought that was one of those Facebook 'facts'
No, it did happen, there are plenty of pictures and stories confirming this. That, in itself, is neither here nor there to me, other than confirming her political alignment, but I did think it slightly unwise to take kids into that sort of a scenario.


rscott

14,821 posts

193 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Digga said:
Oakey said:
Was she actually there with the Geldof thing? I just thought that was one of those Facebook 'facts'
No, it did happen, there are plenty of pictures and stories confirming this. That, in itself, is neither here nor there to me, other than confirming her political alignment, but I did think it slightly unwise to take kids into that sort of a scenario.

The kids are probably pretty aware of the dangers around the river though - don't they live on a houseboat on the Thames?

Laurel Green

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234 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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rscott said:
The kids are probably pretty aware of the dangers around the river though - don't they live on a houseboat on the Thames?
yes

pc.iow

1,879 posts

205 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Her husband was interviewed on Sky news, shown this morning(wife's birthday i think i heard?). Seems to come accross very resilient to whats happened and the way forward with the children.
I'm not criticising or suggesting anything untoward in any way but it did seem strange how normal his process of thought was.

Digga

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285 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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boxxob said:
exactly. There's a piece on youtube about her and the family, showing that they on a houseboat whilst in London and their commute is done on that rib (or one similar). I don't think it was necessarily unwise to take the kids - the family may have been distanced from the Geldof/trawler angst or they may have left when it became tense. They would have used their judgement on the safety aspect, and it's arguable no more dangerous than crossing the average London street.
Guess so, but as the trawlermen threatening to ram Sir bob's boat proves, you never really know how these things will go down. My point was not a major criticism of her though, but merely something I personally found interesting.

The Don of Croy

6,012 posts

161 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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I don't think it's Jo Cox in the boat - unless her hair grew several inches overnight.

Worldwide tributes today - from Nairobi to Washington apparently. Hastings did their march already.

Digga

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Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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The Don of Croy said:
I don't think it's Jo Cox in the boat - unless her hair grew several inches overnight.

Worldwide tributes today - from Nairobi to Washington apparently. Hastings did their march already.
FWIW, here husband and kids in a picture she Tweeted.

Seems/sounds as though she was in another boat perhaps:



Mentioned here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3648678/...

Smollet

10,728 posts

192 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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What I find very sad is that someone who had a job became an MP has been lost. Makes a change from the career MPs who've never done a day's work outside of their party yet proclaim to know what's best for us lesser mortals

FredClogs

14,041 posts

163 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Smollet said:
What I find very sad is that someone who had a job became an MP has been lost. Makes a change from the career MPs who've never done a day's work outside of their party yet proclaim to know what's best for us lesser mortals v
Her dad worked in a toothpaste factory, like Charlie Bucket's dad. Struck me that did. But to be fair and checking on her wiki page I don't think she ever had a "real" job other than some summer stuff packing toothpaste, she went from Cambridge to the LSE and then straight into working for the Labour party. Student summer jobs don't count as real jobs, not the way I did them anyway.

Smollet

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192 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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FredClogs said:
Smollet said:
What I find very sad is that someone who had a job became an MP has been lost. Makes a change from the career MPs who've never done a day's work outside of their party yet proclaim to know what's best for us lesser mortals v
Her dad worked in a toothpaste factory, like Charlie Bucket's dad. Struck me that did. But to be fair and checking on her wiki page I don't think she ever had a "real" job other than some summer stuff packing toothpaste, she went from Cambridge to the LSE and then straight into working for the Labour party. Student summer jobs don't count as real jobs, not the way I did them anyway.
I stand corrected. I thought she did a lot of charity work around the world

Eric Mc

122,215 posts

267 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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She was a project co-ordinator with Oxfam - which I would look on as a job.

There are over 600 MPs. What is the breakdown of their previous employment or business record outside of being an MP?

Smollet

10,728 posts

192 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Eric Mc said:
She was a project co-ordinator with Oxfam - which I would look on as a job.

There are over 600 MPs. What is the breakdown of their previous employment or business record outside of being an MP?
Now that is an interesting question.

GOG440

9,247 posts

192 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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MarshPhantom said:
ChemicalChaos said:
I saw a news article linked earlier on FB, which I now cannot find, which claims that on the day she was murdered, reporting restirctions were lifted on another Muslim grooming gang - this time in her constituency. The tone was that this issue close to home had been ignored/covered up whilst at the same time she was busy flying out to Syria doing charity work for refugees.

If this is all true then I think we have a far clearer possible reason why Mair attacked her and claimed "Britain First" than the current media reason of "because of the Leave Campaign"
yikes
Mair is a nutter from a family who to be kind skirt around the edges of what is legal, usually from the wrong side all I can see happening to him is a long stretch in a secure psychiatric unit.
Nothing to do with any grooming gang.
And I'm not just spouting crap, I have had this first hand from people who know him, this all happened in my town and he was caught 200yards from my house

rscott

14,821 posts

193 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Eric Mc said:
She was a project co-ordinator with Oxfam - which I would look on as a job.

There are over 600 MPs. What is the breakdown of their previous employment or business record outside of being an MP?
Head of Policy at Oxfam, not just a project co-ordinator.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

163 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Smollet said:
FredClogs said:
Smollet said:
What I find very sad is that someone who had a job became an MP has been lost. Makes a change from the career MPs who've never done a day's work outside of their party yet proclaim to know what's best for us lesser mortals v
Her dad worked in a toothpaste factory, like Charlie Bucket's dad. Struck me that did. But to be fair and checking on her wiki page I don't think she ever had a "real" job other than some summer stuff packing toothpaste, she went from Cambridge to the LSE and then straight into working for the Labour party. Student summer jobs don't count as real jobs, not the way I did them anyway.
I stand corrected. I thought she did a lot of charity work around the world
Maybe I stand corrected, I suppose it all hinges on whether you consider her charity work to be a job inside and outside of politics. I'd say it was a grey area, the labour party advisory positions and high end charity positions seem to osmose, but here's a summary from wikipedia.

[i]Following her graduation, Cox worked as an adviser to Labour MP Joan Walley, before moving to Brussels to spend two years advising Glenys Kinnock, who was then a Member of the European Parliament.[1] Cox worked for the aid groups Oxfam and Oxfam International between 2001 and 2009, first in Brussels as the leader of the group's trade-reform campaign, as head of policy and advocacy at Oxfam GB in 2005, and head of Oxfam International's humanitarian campaigns in New York City in 2007.[13] Her work for Oxfam where she met disadvantaged groups in Darfur and Afghanistan influenced her political career.[1]

Cox's charity work led to a role advising Sarah Brown (the wife of former Prime Minister Gordon Brown), who was spearheading a campaign to prevent deaths in pregnancy and childbirth.[8][14] Cox was the national chair of the Labour Women's Network and a senior adviser to the Freedom Fund, an anti-slavery charity.[/i]


(There's no need for further Kinnock bashing, we all know how you feel chaps)

Eric Mc

122,215 posts

267 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Where does "politics" end and "real work" begin?


DMN

2,991 posts

141 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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FredClogs

14,041 posts

163 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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DMN said:
The really scary thing is the guy who wrote it appears to be a barrister...

Michael Shrimpton is a prominent Eurosceptic, having advised the Maastricht rebels. He is a former Chairman of the Bruges Group and former National Committee member of the Campaign for an Independent Britain. He defected to the Tory Party in 1997, mainly on the issue of Europe. As a barrister he led the defence of the Metric Martyrs. His major intelligence text Spyhunter: The Secret History of German Intelligence was published by June Press in 2014. He has written on European matters for The Times and Eurofacts.

Oh, wait a minute - a quick Google gave me this...

http://www.bucksherald.co.uk/news/more-news/jail-f...

Probably German intelligence trying to smear him...

Edited: Just read the article, he did in fact claim MI5 planted the child abuse images on his memory stick.


Edited by FredClogs on Wednesday 22 June 17:13

smn159

12,828 posts

219 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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