Sir Cliff Richard

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V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

134 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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La Liga said:
t's hard to draw comparisons. Regardless, creating a situation where you'll link physical fitness and capability to pay will only have a detrimental impact. I'd speculate it's exceptionally unlikely to occur so it's practically irrelevant.

It's an issue for the government / management of the future to sort so I don't worry too much.
Injury = reduced pay is prevalent in several sectors e.g. construction, engineering, agriculture, forestry, commercial fishing.

The current decade of austerity is a result of leaving issues for future gubmints / management to resolve.

Thorodin

2,459 posts

135 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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When someone is injured and incapacitated in the course of their duties, surely existing arrangements for compensation and being re-engaged in a 'light duty' capacity on lower pay is usual? I see no fault in applying that to police. It's not a dignity-affecting penalty - it's a recognition that they have a useful role to continue to play. Pension entitlements could easily remain.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

230 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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BlackLabel said:
While we are on the subject of multi millionaire singers and composers, I see that Elton John may be in a bit of trouble.

TMZ.com said:
Sir Elton John forced himself on a former security guard, grabbing the man's genitals on multiple occasions ... at least that's the claim in a lawsuit just filed against Elton.

Jeffrey Wenninger says 3 alleged incidents went down in 2014. In the suit, Wenninger says he and Elton were in a car together when Elton put his hands in Wenninger's pants. He says Elton attempted to grab his genitals and put his fingers between Wenninger's butt cheeks.

According to the suit, Elton then told him to "Get your todger out" and "say hello to Uncle Elton."

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2016/03/28/elton-john-lawsuit-s...
hehe Uncle Elton. hehe

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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V8 Fettler said:
La Liga said:
It's hard to draw comparisons. Regardless, creating a situation where you'll link physical fitness and capability to pay will only have a detrimental impact. I'd speculate it's exceptionally unlikely to occur so it's practically irrelevant.

It's an issue for the government / management of the future to sort so I don't worry too much.
Injury = reduced pay is prevalent in several sectors e.g. construction, engineering, agriculture, forestry, commercial fishing.
I don't see how that answers the bold. Any private vs public comparisons are often towards the lowest common denominator. Take the worst pension from X, the lowest leave allocation from Y, and the worst working environment from Z and draw comparisons etc.

V8 Fettler said:
The current decade of austerity is a result of leaving issues for future gubmints / management to resolve.
Or it's a result the banks wrecking the economy through direct or indirect exposure to sub-prime debt.



Cupramax

10,489 posts

254 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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funkyrobot said:
BlackLabel said:
While we are on the subject of multi millionaire singers and composers, I see that Elton John may be in a bit of trouble.

TMZ.com said:
Sir Elton John forced himself on a former security guard, grabbing the man's genitals on multiple occasions ... at least that's the claim in a lawsuit just filed against Elton.

Jeffrey Wenninger says 3 alleged incidents went down in 2014. In the suit, Wenninger says he and Elton were in a car together when Elton put his hands in Wenninger's pants. He says Elton attempted to grab his genitals and put his fingers between Wenninger's butt cheeks.

According to the suit, Elton then told him to "Get your todger out" and "say hello to Uncle Elton."

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2016/03/28/elton-john-lawsuit-s...
hehe Uncle Elton. hehe
Have another laugh

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

134 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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La Liga said:
V8 Fettler said:
La Liga said:
It's hard to draw comparisons. Regardless, creating a situation where you'll link physical fitness and capability to pay will only have a detrimental impact. I'd speculate it's exceptionally unlikely to occur so it's practically irrelevant.

It's an issue for the government / management of the future to sort so I don't worry too much.
Injury = reduced pay is prevalent in several sectors e.g. construction, engineering, agriculture, forestry, commercial fishing.
I don't see how that answers the bold. Any private vs public comparisons are often towards the lowest common denominator. Take the worst pension from X, the lowest leave allocation from Y, and the worst working environment from Z and draw comparisons etc.

V8 Fettler said:
The current decade of austerity is a result of leaving issues for future gubmints / management to resolve.
Or it's a result the banks wrecking the economy through direct or indirect exposure to sub-prime debt.
The comparison is occupations where earnings do not drop significantly following significant injury compared with occupations where earnings typically drop following significant injury.

The financial sector has been creating issues for the UK economy for decades to varying degrees; the cash flow crisis of 2008 was a direct result of loss of confidence by the bankers re: sub prime. There is a separate issue re: public spending that Dave, Georgie and their cronies are dismally failing to address.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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V8 Fettler said:
The financial sector has been creating issues for the UK economy for decades to varying degrees; the cash flow crisis of 2008 was a direct result of loss of confidence by the bankers re: sub prime. There is a separate issue re: public spending that Dave, Georgie and their cronies are dismally failing to address.
Confidence? It was a direct result of excessive greed though gross over-leveraging and a total disregard of risk.

There is an issue re: raising sufficient revenue to fund the public services to e able to provide the levels of service the public want.

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

134 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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La Liga said:
Confidence? It was a direct result of excessive greed though gross over-leveraging and a total disregard of risk.

There is an issue re: raising sufficient revenue to fund the public services to e able to provide the levels of service the public want.
A fair and generally accurate analysis of the cash flow crisis in 2008, although the confidence element revolves around short-termism, the UK financial sector having little regard for the long term.

The level of service the public wants is not always the level of service the public are prepared to pay for.

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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V8 Fettler said:
The level of service the public wants is not always the level of service the public are prepared to pay for.
Agreed.

Sam All

3,101 posts

103 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Cliff back in the news - evidence file passed to prosecutors

benjj

6,787 posts

165 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Aaaaaaargh. Every time this thread gets bumped I think that Cliff is dead, and then it turns out he isn't.

Digga

40,478 posts

285 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Sam All said:
Cliff back in the news - evidence file passed to prosecutors
I am not surprised but let's allow justice to take its course.

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Digga said:
Sam All said:
Cliff back in the news - evidence file passed to prosecutors
I am not surprised but let's allow justice to take its course.
Indeed...let's not jump the gun



smile



KTF

9,843 posts

152 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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That's pretty good smile

I like the R Kelly lyrics better though. Nicely ironic given what happened:

"My mind's telling me no
But my body, my body's telling me yes"

TheGuru

744 posts

103 months

Wednesday 11th May 2016
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Probably something to do with The Young Ones


schmunk

4,399 posts

127 months

Wednesday 11th May 2016
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TheGuru said:
Probably something to do with The Young Ones
Somebody's been crying, talking...

Cupramax

10,489 posts

254 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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Well well well, no further action to be taken, another person whos reputation has been ruined but still, as long as the media get their story eh. rolleyes

SGirl

7,918 posts

263 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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Exactly that. The BBC should be ashamed of themselves.

snuffy

9,958 posts

286 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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The CPS make my piss boil when they always say "insufficient evidence to prosecute".

What they mean is there is no evidence because he's not done anything but they will under no circumstances admit to that fact.