Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?
Discussion
President Merkin said:
Like a K-Tel greatest hits compilation with a scratch in here. Europe, wasters, woke eggs, all the burning issues of the day. Meanwhile in definitely credible alternative & not a bunch of facetious gimps news.
I suspect that this will ramp up to hysterical levels after the election as the right tears itself apart.Happy days.
crankedup5 said:
mike9009 said:
It is interesting considering why Reform are not pushing the benefits and opportunities created by Brexit?
Why would that be?
They don’t want to antagonise ‘remoaners’ ? Why would that be?
It is strange they are ignoring the benefits to be had from their last political foray.... Surely their last success should be forefront of this campaign.....
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hstewie said:
hstewie said:Vanden Saab said:
With a projected 200+ new Labour MPs and PPCs falling like flies over questionable associations already it will be fertile ground. 
I suspect you're right about that tbh.mike9009 said:
crankedup5 said:
mike9009 said:
It is interesting considering why Reform are not pushing the benefits and opportunities created by Brexit?
Why would that be?
They don’t want to antagonise ‘remoaners’ ? Why would that be?
It is strange they are ignoring the benefits to be had from their last political foray.... Surely their last success should be forefront of this campaign.....
S600BSB said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Seasonal Hero said:
What about treatment for people stupid enough to fall for Tice and Farage?
What about people stupid enough to fall for Starmer and Sunak AGAIN?There'll certainly be one demographic that we won't need a census to identify after the election
crankedup5 said:
mike9009 said:
crankedup5 said:
mike9009 said:
It is interesting considering why Reform are not pushing the benefits and opportunities created by Brexit?
Why would that be?
They don’t want to antagonise ‘remoaners’ ? Why would that be?
It is strange they are ignoring the benefits to be had from their last political foray.... Surely their last success should be forefront of this campaign.....
And yet they pushed hard for Brexit, acknowledge the implementation was flawed and now don't seem to want to capitalise on the benefits foreseen. Unfortunately, I see very close parallels between the two and can only see impending disaster
The only potential benefit of Reform is it does give another democratic view, which can provide a balanced approach to policy by taking an 'extreme' viewpoint. Those thinking Reform is 'the' solution will sadly be let down if the policies are enacted.....
It would be revealing if Reform managed to get one or more seats, purely to reveal the magnitude of the quake as left-illiberati quake in their collective boot Oxford brogue. As it's unlikely, seeing the LibDems flounder outside the SW will have to do. Labour has no chance here, people have more sense, so a tactical vote for the Tories may be needed to try to keep the LDs out...it's 50:50 atm.
mike9009 said:
crankedup5 said:
mike9009 said:
crankedup5 said:
mike9009 said:
It is interesting considering why Reform are not pushing the benefits and opportunities created by Brexit?
Why would that be?
They don’t want to antagonise ‘remoaners’ ? Why would that be?
It is strange they are ignoring the benefits to be had from their last political foray.... Surely their last success should be forefront of this campaign.....
And yet they pushed hard for Brexit, acknowledge the implementation was flawed and now don't seem to want to capitalise on the benefits foreseen. Unfortunately, I see very close parallels between the two and can only see impending disaster
The only potential benefit of Reform is it does give another democratic view, which can provide a balanced approach to policy by taking an 'extreme' viewpoint. Those thinking Reform is 'the' solution will sadly be let down if the policies are enacted.....
turbobloke said:
It would be revealing if Reform managed to get one or more seats, purely to reveal the magnitude of the quake as left-illiberati quake in their collective boot Oxford brogue. As it's unlikely, seeing the LibDems flounder outside the SW will have to do. Labour has no chance here, people have more sense, so a tactical vote for the Tories may be needed to try to keep the LDs out...it's 50:50 atm.
Think people will vote tactically for a Libdem in areas where they have strong history or are the second party. Times polling has them at over 20 seats and a good portion of those will be the West Country.As an aside, what would be considered a good night for Reform? 5 seats? More? Pushing the Tories into third place locally?
Conversely, what do you consider a minimum performance to look like that as a Reform supporter you’d expect?
Not specifically for you TB, more throwing it out to the room.
valiant said:
turbobloke said:
It would be revealing if Reform managed to get one or more seats, purely to reveal the magnitude of the quake as left-illiberati quake in their collective boot Oxford brogue. As it's unlikely, seeing the LibDems flounder outside the SW will have to do. Labour has no chance here, people have more sense, so a tactical vote for the Tories may be needed to try to keep the LDs out...it's 50:50 atm.
Think people will vote tactically for a Libdem in areas where they have strong history or are the second party. Times polling has them at over 20 seats and a good portion of those will be the West Country.As an aside, what would be considered a good night for Reform? 5 seats? More? Pushing the Tories into third place locally?
Conversely, what do you consider a minimum performance to look like that as a Reform supporter you’d expect?
Not specifically for you TB, more throwing it out to the room.
I do not think there has ever been a time where any one of 4 candidates could win a seat.
wisbech said:
bad company said:
Correct BUT, we’re carrying too many malingerers.
As no-one born after 1944 or so did national service, what Reform could propose is bringing back National Service for pensioners. Sure, you get your state pension but in return you need to work 20 hours a week on community projects until you are too frail. Plenty that needs doing.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatton_Garden_safe_d...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/hatton...
As thick and repellent as Gullis is, this is disgusting and Tice the opportunistic grifter should not be blackmailing Members of Parliament.
What a complete scummer. Presumably this is something that Lee Anderson has on him.
Not a chance these pricks should be anywhere near Parliament.
What a complete scummer. Presumably this is something that Lee Anderson has on him.
Not a chance these pricks should be anywhere near Parliament.
President Merkin said:
crankedup5 said:
They are not going to get anywhere near No 10, but I would like to see them reap a high percentage of electoral votes. From that base they can build, refine and mature into a credible political party. ATM they have some way to go.
I think the effect of Reform will be to influence the Conservative Party to be more well conservative. Hopefully that’ll make them electable again.
bad company said:
I think the effect of Reform will be to influence the Conservative Party to be more well conservative.
Hopefully that’ll make them electable again.
I find it interesting that Blair moved Labour rightwards to make them electable, whereas recent Tory leaders have moved the Tory party leftwards in order to make them un-electable.Hopefully that’ll make them electable again.
valiant said:
turbobloke said:
It would be revealing if Reform managed to get one or more seats, purely to reveal the magnitude of the quake as left-illiberati quake in their collective boot Oxford brogue. As it's unlikely, seeing the LibDems flounder outside the SW will have to do. Labour has no chance here, people have more sense, so a tactical vote for the Tories may be needed to try to keep the LDs out...it's 50:50 atm.
Think people will vote tactically for a Libdem in areas where they have strong history or are the second party. Times polling has them at over 20 seats and a good portion of those will be the West Country.As an aside, what would be considered a good night for Reform? 5 seats? More? Pushing the Tories into third place locally?
Conversely, what do you consider a minimum performance to look like that as a Reform supporter you’d expect?
Not specifically for you TB, more throwing it out to the room.
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