UK Honeymoon Couple Attacked in S.A.
Discussion
Breadvan72 said:
Maybe taxi drivers read newspapers.
Maybe they do. Maybe they do indeed. Consider my thinking turned on its head. Pints said:
Or are guided to amend their stories repeatedly by a prosecution who were hell-bent on securing a guilty verdict to appease the baying masses.
What baying masses? Mermaid said:
South Africa - post Pistorius & Dewani -anyone think this will affect tourism?
I would not go to Gugulethu, but lots of nice places out there - great weather, good food & wine, excellent roads....
Dodgy justice system too for those holiday makers planning on bumping off their partners.I would not go to Gugulethu, but lots of nice places out there - great weather, good food & wine, excellent roads....
JF87 said:
What baying masses?
Did you not see the videos taken outside the court? The mob were incandescent with rage. One woman being interviewed was absolutely frothing and the rest of the crowd were in agreement (which is an understatement).Any South African news site where comments are permitted will give you an idea of the people's view on this.
Pints said:
Did you not see the videos taken outside the court? The mob were incandescent with rage. One woman being interviewed was absolutely frothing and the rest of the crowd were in agreement (which is an understatement).
Yes, but you're claiming that the SA authorities pursued this case in order to appease the baying masses. If they hadn't bothered, and had simply satisfied themselves with the killers they'd already banged up, the masses you're talking about wouldn't have been there to bay. I just struggle rather with the idea that an entire legal system would trouble themselves to pursue a basically vexatious case - and one that was always very likely to end in vast international controversy and indeed the odd baying mass.
Far more probable in my eyes that the investigators and prosecutors were completely certain of Dewani's involvement, and ploughed on with the case on that basis.
If we are to accept the courts decision and he is an innocent man then Dewani really has gone through hell - wife murdered on honeymoon, you are accused of arranging it, mental illness, hospitalised, a trial, a media circus, almost zero chance of anyone(female)marrying you again etc.
Andy Zarse said:
Mermaid said:
Husband is the well off one.
Well he is now the big life assurance policy he took out on her is going to pay out! 
http://companycheck.co.uk/director/917318944/--PSP...
TTmonkey said:
And if you accept that he lived a complete double life, you can easily accept that he had her killed, with reports ( probably unfounded) of large life insurance policies and money problems in his business.
What?Bit of a leap there! Many people keep there sexual preferences secret, especially if they are a little erm, left of field. But even more understandble if you know anything about asian cultural norms.
Accepting his secrecy around his sex life does not make it "easy" to accept he had a woman brutally killed!!
JF87 said:
Yes, but you're claiming that the SA authorities pursued this case in order to appease the baying masses. If they hadn't bothered, and had simply satisfied themselves with the killers they'd already banged up, the masses you're talking about wouldn't have been there to bay.
I just struggle rather with the idea that an entire legal system would trouble themselves to pursue a basically vexatious case - and one that was always very likely to end in vast international controversy and indeed the odd baying mass.
Far more probable in my eyes that the investigators and prosecutors were completely certain of Dewani's involvement, and ploughed on with the case on that basis.
I don't disagree. I just struggle rather with the idea that an entire legal system would trouble themselves to pursue a basically vexatious case - and one that was always very likely to end in vast international controversy and indeed the odd baying mass.
Far more probable in my eyes that the investigators and prosecutors were completely certain of Dewani's involvement, and ploughed on with the case on that basis.
But I also have no doubt that there was enormous public pressure to bring Dewani to trial. The South African masses have been demanding his return to stand trial from the very beginning, certain that he was guilty of having her killed.
What I struggle with is that if the prosecution were so certain of his involvement, I don't see why they'd have needed to effectively fabricate the witness statements.
The kidnap and murder of a foreign couple on honeymoon in South Africa was possibly perceived to have had the potential to have a far more detrimental impact on the country's tourism industry than the thousands of murders and other violent crimes which go largely unreported in the country each year.
DoubleSix said:
TTmonkey said:
And if you accept that he lived a complete double life, you can easily accept that he had her killed, with reports ( probably unfounded) of large life insurance policies and money problems in his business.
What?Bit of a leap there! Many people keep there sexual preferences secret, especially if they are a little erm, left of field. But even more understandble if you know anything about asian cultural norms.
Accepting his secrecy around his sex life does not make it "easy" to accept he had a woman brutally killed!!
Breadvan72 said:
DoubleSix said:
TTmonkey said:
And if you accept that he lived a complete double life, you can easily accept that he had her killed, with reports ( probably unfounded) of large life insurance policies and money problems in his business.
What?Bit of a leap there! Many people keep there sexual preferences secret, especially if they are a little erm, left of field. But even more understandble if you know anything about asian cultural norms.
Accepting his secrecy around his sex life does not make it "easy" to accept he had a woman brutally killed!!
Mermaid said:
Honour killing kind of?
Along those lines yes, I don't know if honour killings are a part of the culture Dewani has his roots in. Or maybe he just panicked at the thought of having his secret out in the family and community.Edited by Finlandia on Tuesday 9th December 12:21
Finlandia said:
Would those cultural norms be reason enough for getting rid of someone who may have been about to bring light into your deviating sexuality?
I can only reiterate that the Judge, equipped with more info than we have, ruled Tha sexuality was irrelevant.As for the idea of "deviancy", are we in the 1850s?
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