UK Honeymoon Couple Attacked in S.A.
Discussion
Breadvan72 said:
Finlandia said:
Would those cultural norms be reason enough for getting rid of someone who may have been about to bring light into your deviating sexuality?
I can only reiterate that the Judge, equipped with more info than we have, ruled Tha sexuality was irrelevant.As for the idea of "deviancy", are we in the 1850s?
Finlandia said:
Breadvan72 said:
Finlandia said:
Would those cultural norms be reason enough for getting rid of someone who may have been about to bring light into your deviating sexuality?
I can only reiterate that the Judge, equipped with more info than we have, ruled Tha sexuality was irrelevant.As for the idea of "deviancy", are we in the 1850s?
Breadvan72 said:
It may be worth reminding people that suggesting guilt when someone has been found not guilty may expose Haymarket, publishers of this website, to litigation risk, which is unfair as the site is free and fun.
It's odd that it's you who is asking people to post why they think he might be guilty in the first place. el stovey said:
Breadvan72 said:
It may be worth reminding people that suggesting guilt when someone has been found not guilty may expose Haymarket, publishers of this website, to litigation risk, which is unfair as the site is free and fun.
It's odd that it's you who is asking people to post why they think he might be guilty in the first place. Mermaid said:
& I am trying to understand this - the case was thrown out, is that the same as "found not guilty"?
You're not 'found not guilty', you're always presumed innocent (until a court convicts you). He was innocent when he walked in and in the absence of a guilty verdict he's innocent now.Finlandia said:
DoubleSix said:
Understandable I said...
Even more understandable if you know anything about asian cultural norms, actually 
Which would indicate that it's a very good idea to keep it a secret.
I'm being picky here but whethers it's good or bad is subjective.
Whether it's understandable is not.
Pedantry matters etc
allergictocheese said:
Mermaid said:
& I am trying to understand this - the case was thrown out, is that the same as "found not guilty"?
You're not 'found not guilty', you're always presumed innocent (until a court convicts you). He was innocent when he walked in and in the absence of a guilty verdict he's innocent now.BlackLabel said:
If we are to accept the courts decision and he is an innocent man then Dewani really has gone through hell - wife murdered on honeymoon, you are accused of arranging it, mental illness, hospitalised, a trial, a media circus, almost zero chance of anyone(female)marrying you again etc.
Has he been found innocent? I missed that. All I saw was that the case against had no prospect of success so it was dismissed and he has been found no guilty. I can't see how he can be deemed innocent until he answers some of the questions that remain.
REALIST123 said:
Has he been found innocent? I missed that. All I saw was that the case against had no prospect of success so it was dismissed and he has been found no guilty.
I can't see how he can be deemed innocent until he answers some of the questions that remain.
he was cleared of the charge why isn't that being innocentI can't see how he can be deemed innocent until he answers some of the questions that remain.
What is worse for SA? The idea that taking a taxi in Cape Town runs the risk of kidnap/murder, or the idea that you can hop in a cab and ask the driver to kill your wife? Either way, the upshot of the case is that the Police and State prosecution service are exposed as being shambolic.
My grandmother was from SA, I visited several times as a lad and loved it. Haven't been back since, and I'm not sure I'm keen to any time soon....
My grandmother was from SA, I visited several times as a lad and loved it. Haven't been back since, and I'm not sure I'm keen to any time soon....
johnxjsc1985 said:
REALIST123 said:
Has he been found innocent? I missed that. All I saw was that the case against had no prospect of success so it was dismissed and he has been found no guilty.
I can't see how he can be deemed innocent until he answers some of the questions that remain.
he was cleared of the charge why isn't that being innocentI can't see how he can be deemed innocent until he answers some of the questions that remain.
Mermaid said:
el stovey said:
Breadvan72 said:
It may be worth reminding people that suggesting guilt when someone has been found not guilty may expose Haymarket, publishers of this website, to litigation risk, which is unfair as the site is free and fun.
It's odd that it's you who is asking people to post why they think he might be guilty in the first place. el stovey said:
Breadvan72 said:
It may be worth reminding people that suggesting guilt when someone has been found not guilty may expose Haymarket, publishers of this website, to litigation risk, which is unfair as the site is free and fun.
It's odd that it's you who is asking people to post why they think he might be guilty in the first place. 
Breadvan72 said:
el stovey said:
Breadvan72 said:
It may be worth reminding people that suggesting guilt when someone has been found not guilty may expose Haymarket, publishers of this website, to litigation risk, which is unfair as the site is free and fun.
It's odd that it's you who is asking people to post why they think he might be guilty in the first place. Breadvan72 said:
Mermaid said:
el stovey said:
Breadvan72 said:
It may be worth reminding people that suggesting guilt when someone has been found not guilty may expose Haymarket, publishers of this website, to litigation risk, which is unfair as the site is free and fun.
It's odd that it's you who is asking people to post why they think he might be guilty in the first place. June steenkamp appears to be doing the whole tv tour promo thing at the moment.. now that he is free to go, presumably there will be a great many wanting to read his story and who will pay substantially for the privelage of and 'exclusive'.
His life is pretty much shafted as well. No matter where he goes he will be asked about for many years to come. but then again his answer is 'I'm innocent', so if he makes money from an account of his experiences, then why not. I'm curious to see how the next few months pan out for him. I am inclinded to think that he will be pretty damming of the south African judiciary.
His life is pretty much shafted as well. No matter where he goes he will be asked about for many years to come. but then again his answer is 'I'm innocent', so if he makes money from an account of his experiences, then why not. I'm curious to see how the next few months pan out for him. I am inclinded to think that he will be pretty damming of the south African judiciary.
drivin_me_nuts said:
.. I am inclinded to think that he will be pretty damming of the south African judiciary.
& not just him, although particularly him and he should want compensation.To extradite knowing how bad their evidence was is super, super daft. Should have dropped the case early on and saved resources.
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