Birmingham Council - "The end of services as we know it"

Birmingham Council - "The end of services as we know it"

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martin84

5,366 posts

155 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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A few years ago I found a plastic box at my front door with the council logo on it. Apparently it's for glass and it's meant to go out on such and such a day at such and such a time.

fk it. I just chuck it in the car and go down to one of them glass bins in the supermarket car parks.

BlackVanDyke

9,932 posts

213 months

Friday 26th October 2012
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And yet somehow they're providing piss-all good quality support to people who really really need it.

Where's the money going?!

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Friday 26th October 2012
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martin84 said:
A few years ago I found a plastic box at my front door with the council logo on it. Apparently it's for glass and it's meant to go out on such and such a day at such and such a time.

fk it. I just chuck it in the car and go down to one of them glass bins in the supermarket car parks.
You evil heartless right wing child eating monster

You are denying some poor soul his work

Digga

40,463 posts

285 months

Friday 26th October 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
martin84 said:
A few years ago I found a plastic box at my front door with the council logo on it. Apparently it's for glass and it's meant to go out on such and such a day at such and such a time.

fk it. I just chuck it in the car and go down to one of them glass bins in the supermarket car parks.
You evil heartless right wing child eating monster

You are denying some poor soul his work
The binmen's union will be boycotting you martin.

A.J.M

7,947 posts

188 months

Friday 26th October 2012
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Digga said:
thinfourth2 said:
martin84 said:
A few years ago I found a plastic box at my front door with the council logo on it. Apparently it's for glass and it's meant to go out on such and such a day at such and such a time.

fk it. I just chuck it in the car and go down to one of them glass bins in the supermarket car parks.
You evil heartless right wing child eating monster

You are denying some poor soul his work
The binmen's union will be boycotting you martin.
Yep, you need a 4th bin for that glass. Which will need it's own lorry which can't be used for the other waste, also a crew to run it, and since you might live in a populated area there will need to be several of them to cover all households.

Simples!

IroningMan

10,154 posts

248 months

Friday 26th October 2012
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BlackVanDyke said:
And yet somehow they're providing piss-all good quality support to people who really really need it.

Where's the money going?!
Salaries, bensions and benefits.

Mark Benson

7,544 posts

271 months

Friday 26th October 2012
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IroningMan said:
BlackVanDyke said:
And yet somehow they're providing piss-all good quality support to people who really really need it.

Where's the money going?!
Salaries, bensions and benefits.
Pensions (or bensions, if you have a cold) are the problem that won't go away. All those people employed in the public sector will one day retire and demand their pension, which will have to be paid for out of taxation, there's no big pension pot saved up to provide for public sector pensions, they come from the taxpayers of the day - us and our children.

That's the biggest problem with employing many more public sector workers than you need, but since it'll be someone else's problem in the future, politicians don't seem to want to tackle the issue.

IroningMan

10,154 posts

248 months

Friday 26th October 2012
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Mark Benson said:
IroningMan said:
BlackVanDyke said:
And yet somehow they're providing piss-all good quality support to people who really really need it.

Where's the money going?!
Salaries, bensions and benefits.
Pensions (or bensions, if you have a cold) are the problem that won't go away. All those people employed in the public sector will one day retire and demand their pension, which will have to be paid for out of taxation, there's no big pension pot saved up to provide for public sector pensions, they come from the taxpayers of the day - us and our children.

That's the biggest problem with employing many more public sector workers than you need, but since it'll be someone else's problem in the future, politicians don't seem to want to tackle the issue.
smile Extraordinary prescience on my part to twig that you would be the next poster and mis-spell in your honour...

Mark Benson

7,544 posts

271 months

Friday 26th October 2012
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IroningMan said:
Mark Benson said:
IroningMan said:
BlackVanDyke said:
And yet somehow they're providing piss-all good quality support to people who really really need it.

Where's the money going?!
Salaries, bensions and benefits.
Pensions (or bensions, if you have a cold) are the problem that won't go away. All those people employed in the public sector will one day retire and demand their pension, which will have to be paid for out of taxation, there's no big pension pot saved up to provide for public sector pensions, they come from the taxpayers of the day - us and our children.

That's the biggest problem with employing many more public sector workers than you need, but since it'll be someone else's problem in the future, politicians don't seem to want to tackle the issue.
smile Extraordinary prescience on my part to twig that you would be the next poster and mis-spell in your honour...
Only Sean Connery getsh to call me Mishter Bension......;)

NoNeed

15,137 posts

202 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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BlackVanDyke said:
And yet somehow they're providing piss-all good quality support to people who really really need it.

Where's the money going?!
They lost a court case against a group of dinner ladies that the final cost could be upto £700 million
Now as a result they are having to make all sots of cuts but one shocker I hward on the radio this morning is that the unemployed will now have to pay council tax. I can't see that ending well.


ETA They are of course blaming government cuts and failing to mention the court case and any of their own ineptitude for the problem.

Edited by NoNeed on Wednesday 9th January 10:00

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Mark Benson said:
Pensions (or bensions, if you have a cold) are the problem that won't go away. All those people employed in the public sector will one day retire and demand their pension, which will have to be paid for out of taxation, there's no big pension pot saved up to provide for public sector pensions, they come from the taxpayers of the day - us and our children.

That's the biggest problem with employing many more public sector workers than you need.....
That is a fair point. Which is why the number of Public Sector employees needs to be drastically reduced, quickly, to at least reduce that burden.

Du1point8

21,613 posts

194 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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REALIST123 said:
Mark Benson said:
Pensions (or bensions, if you have a cold) are the problem that won't go away. All those people employed in the public sector will one day retire and demand their pension, which will have to be paid for out of taxation, there's no big pension pot saved up to provide for public sector pensions, they come from the taxpayers of the day - us and our children.

That's the biggest problem with employing many more public sector workers than you need.....
That is a fair point. Which is why the number of Public Sector employees needs to be drastically reduced, quickly, to at least reduce that burden.
But the issue is that for some reason, when you sign up to the public sector the you get a golden contract forced on you... work for 20 months then get kicked out with £420k pay off... something like 4 times the annual salary.

In which planet do the public sector dream up these contracts? If they are that easy I would consider getting a public sector job, get them to sign off a huge settlement fee in the contract and then let them force me out of a job to get it.

Haggleburyfinius

6,612 posts

188 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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The worst part about everything involving BCC is their complete and utter ineptitude in every discernible way.

I have had the misfortunate of dealing with them on multiple occasions and frankly each one had me banging my head against a wall in frustration.

The latest being them asking me to prove that I didn't rent a commercial property in the city centre....how the fk is one meant to do that?? Idiots.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

248 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Mark Benson said:
Only Sean Connery getsh to call me Mishter Bension......;)
I thought it was IroningBan...