Peaches Geldof found dead.
Discussion
Halb said:
People can not have gotten over something and still function. I think it also depends on the relationship. I know people who never really got over their parents being gone. But they still go out and do stuff. It's just a grief that stays with you.
My mum died when I was 10 years old, and I saw my dad trying to wake her up and it was obvious it wasn't going to happen.I'm 38 now but still remember that afternoon as if it was yesterday. But I have grown up to be a normal person with a job and my own kids.
I wouldn't say I mourn it every day or even every week but certainly it is something you just learn to carry around with you and get on with life. I do feel that I miss/ missed something that all of my friends had.
I guess she couldn't do that and this is the result.
eric twinge said:
My mum died when I was 10 years old, and I saw my dad trying to wake her up and it was obvious it wasn't going to happen.
I'm 38 now but still remember that afternoon as if it was yesterday. But I have grown up to be a normal person with a job and my own kids.
I wouldn't say I mourn it every day or even every week but certainly it is something you just learn to carry around with you and get on with life. I do feel that I miss/ missed something that all of my friends had.
I guess she couldn't do that and this is the result.
I know. It's tough.I'm 38 now but still remember that afternoon as if it was yesterday. But I have grown up to be a normal person with a job and my own kids.
I wouldn't say I mourn it every day or even every week but certainly it is something you just learn to carry around with you and get on with life. I do feel that I miss/ missed something that all of my friends had.
I guess she couldn't do that and this is the result.
As a great Wire charcter said.
Reginald 'Bubbles' Cousins: Ain't no shame in holding on to grief . . . as long as you make room for other things too.
okgo said:
I would be very surprised if it wasn't suicide. As mentioned earlier PND/ mother dying could and likely played a part. Someone said earlier you never get over a parent dying when you're a child. That I'm afraid is nonsense. While mine are not dead (almost did when I was younger) many of my mates have lost parents to all sorts and they're functioning human beings.
okgo, I really hope that you have the balls to come back to this thread & apologise for the crap you have posted (including those that Kinky had to delete yesterday).IF it were suicide, the statement would have been very different to "the death is deemed not suspicious but unexplained and sudden" and that Officers found 'no hard drugs, no suicide note, no visible signs of injury'; it is almost as tho you don't ever read how sudden deaths are described.
Just because they are functioning adults doesn't mean they have got over the death of their parent at an early age, and to call it nonsense just shows how little you understand and that you have no knowledge of her, her family or her life. You don't even comprehend her level of grief, I'm struggling to see any form of empathy come from you at all, so am wondering why on earth you are still posting in the thread.
Yes, she was a wild child as a teen and got married too young. But how many posters here weren't wild as teenagers & didn't have bad love affairs? The only difference between Peaches behaviour at that age and mine at that age is that I didn't have famous parents so my behaviour wasn't splashed all over the papers! Growing up in such a spotlight is NOT easy. Posters here that lived local have said they didn't know she was a Celeb, she wasn't - her parents were, Peaches was just a journalist, one time model & Mum
I didn't really know much about her tbh until yesterday and she seemed to be well liked and clearly loved by her family and friends.
looking at the most recent pictures of her, her smiles don't always meet her eyes in the sense that she looked happy smiling.
maybe she was tired, ill or run down - its pure speculation and indeed very sad.
looking at the most recent pictures of her, her smiles don't always meet her eyes in the sense that she looked happy smiling.
maybe she was tired, ill or run down - its pure speculation and indeed very sad.
Halb said:
People can not have gotten over something and still function. I think it also depends on the relationship. I know people who never really got over their parents being gone. But they still go out and do stuff. It's just a grief that stays with you.
I Totally agree. People become very good at hiding the deeper pain within....
Living in the public eye often is an incredibly hard thing to do and more so if there is 'history' of drugs misuse and death. I do wonder at times that many in society have a base belief that someone is destined to fail under such circumstances as PG's. It seems almost impossible to 'win'.
On one hand there is the 'well what do you expect, her mum died of an O/D, so it's no surprise that s/he did'. But on the other, if they do make a success 'well, it's amazing they made a success of their lives considering their mother/father was a junkie'.
Who knows what went through this young woman's mind. And at 25 she was still so very young and I wonder how little of her mother's loss and the conflicts within her life were ever resolved to any degree at all. It is a family tragedy beyond any words that her father or her siblings will ever be able to communicate fully.
A few days ago I was talking with someone who is friends with an old lady. She told me that the old lady had a son of 65 had died the previous week. She was 90 and she was in so much pain at the loss of her 'baby'. Even the thought of losing a child, as many of those who have children will attest to, is a thought beyond terrifying.
People who say things like 'well, she had all the money - what did she have to worry about / get depressed about / get drunk/drugged', have little appreciation for the way the mind works and less than the slightest smidge of understanding how brutal and judgmental can be the world from the eyes of those within the maelstrom of a celebrity life.
I am glad that the horrible posts on this thread from last night have been deleted and those who wrote them banned. Talk about kicking a family when they are down. What ever our views on a person may be, the time of their death is not the time to lay in to them or pass some moral judgement on their 'value' - say nothing at all, keep your thoughts to yourself - because today a family woke up to the first day of the rest of their lives without a child, a sister or a mother and nothing will take away the pain of that enormous and profound loss.
I can never work it out in my head why people have to be so bitter and cruel when the death of a 'celebrity' happens. Sometimes I think it's a form of jealousy, or a bitter cuss at a life that fails their perceived 'morality test'. The sad thing is that often those grieving will remember those words for the rest of their life and it becomes a gnawing angry focus for their loss. What people say in those first few days of death are critical to how those people function, let alone move their lives forwards.
ali_kat said:
okgo, I really hope that you have the balls to come back to this thread & apologise for the crap you have posted (including those that Kinky had to delete yesterday).
IF it were suicide, the statement would have been very different to "the death is deemed not suspicious but unexplained and sudden" and that Officers found 'no hard drugs, no suicide note, no visible signs of injury'; it is almost as tho you don't ever read how sudden deaths are described.
Just because they are functioning adults doesn't mean they have got over the death of their parent at an early age, and to call it nonsense just shows how little you understand and that you have no knowledge of her, her family or her life. You don't even comprehend her level of grief, I'm struggling to see any form of empathy come from you at all, so am wondering why on earth you are still posting in the thread.
Yes, she was a wild child as a teen and got married too young. But how many posters here weren't wild as teenagers & didn't have bad love affairs? The only difference between Peaches behaviour at that age and mine at that age is that I didn't have famous parents so my behaviour wasn't splashed all over the papers! Growing up in such a spotlight is NOT easy. Posters here that lived local have said they didn't know she was a Celeb, she wasn't - her parents were, Peaches was just a journalist, one time model & Mum
Your post is too long for me to answer on my phone (or any other device tbh) but we will see I find it hard to think it was a trip down the stairs etc. Especially given the photos she posted the previous day. IF it were suicide, the statement would have been very different to "the death is deemed not suspicious but unexplained and sudden" and that Officers found 'no hard drugs, no suicide note, no visible signs of injury'; it is almost as tho you don't ever read how sudden deaths are described.
Just because they are functioning adults doesn't mean they have got over the death of their parent at an early age, and to call it nonsense just shows how little you understand and that you have no knowledge of her, her family or her life. You don't even comprehend her level of grief, I'm struggling to see any form of empathy come from you at all, so am wondering why on earth you are still posting in the thread.
Yes, she was a wild child as a teen and got married too young. But how many posters here weren't wild as teenagers & didn't have bad love affairs? The only difference between Peaches behaviour at that age and mine at that age is that I didn't have famous parents so my behaviour wasn't splashed all over the papers! Growing up in such a spotlight is NOT easy. Posters here that lived local have said they didn't know she was a Celeb, she wasn't - her parents were, Peaches was just a journalist, one time model & Mum
FiF said:
Not too difficult to post "sorry" though.
The joke was bad taste, many are. I'm not sorry for disagreeing with anyone else about living with grief. We all will have to, or are having to deal with that. Because we are not famous it doesn't make it any different. A lot of my family are dead, it's not a competition who can feel most bad for someone they don't know. I'm saying that I would be surprised if there wasn't more to the story, people of that age rarely just die, especially ones with issues and pasts like hers. DMN thank you for writing such a eloquent post. In fact I realised it was your writings without even seeing who the poster was first of all as I did with Ali's response to it!
They will say more in time about what happened, I really hope she wasn't feeling so desperate that she felt this was the only answer
They will say more in time about what happened, I really hope she wasn't feeling so desperate that she felt this was the only answer
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