Politics in France

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Puggit

48,526 posts

249 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Le Pen winning round 1 won't change the end result, but will still create a political earthquake.

don'tbesilly

13,942 posts

164 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Puggit said:
Le Pen winning round 1 won't change the end result, but will still create a political earthquake.
Indeed, there will be some worried bureaucrats in Brussels!

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Puggit said:
From Twitter, potentially big news...

Can't see anything on Interior Ministry site. Care to share the link please? Thanks.

Puggit

48,526 posts

249 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
Puggit said:
From Twitter, potentially big news...

Can't see anything on Interior Ministry site. Care to share the link please? Thanks.
Take a look at @PeterSweden7's Tweet: https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/status/8562175581...

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Puggit said:
Take a look at @PeterSweden7's Tweet: https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/status/8562175581...
Your earlier post was based on 9m votes??

FourWheelDrift

88,670 posts

285 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Feminist's heads are exploding.

Must be very confusing for them.

Puggit

48,526 posts

249 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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There have been 2 tweets I saw on Twitter. One on 5.25m votes and one on 9m

Puggit

48,526 posts

249 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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The predicted losers have all endorsed Macron for 2nd round. So vote Macron for the establishment or Le Pen for anti establishment.

I think she'll still lose the 2nd round, but should closer than predicted.

Oakey

27,610 posts

217 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Protestors clashing with police now over results. Not sure who is protesting who

Puggit

48,526 posts

249 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Oakey said:
Protestors clashing with police now over results. Not sure who is protesting who
That'll be the progressive, inclusive lefties

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Puggit said:
Take a look at @PeterSweden7's Tweet: https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/status/8562175581...
Am I missing something here? Who's 'PeterSweden7'? Anything from French Interior Ministry (as stated on that image). Thanks.

paulrockliffe

15,746 posts

228 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Puggit said:
The predicted losers have all endorsed Macron for 2nd round. So vote Macron for the establishment or Le Pen for anti establishment.

I think she'll still lose the 2nd round, but should closer than predicted.
I think the higher Le Pen's vote share ends up, the less predictable the second round becomes, not just because obviously her starting point is higher, but because it points more and more to the established view being more Paris-centric than previously thought.

Vaud

50,763 posts

156 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Macron will win, but a useful signal to Brussels that all is not well and change is needed in Europe...

amusingduck

9,398 posts

137 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Vaud said:
Macron will win, but a useful signal to Brussels that all is not well and change is needed in Europe...
More EU then hehe

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Vaud said:
Macron will win, but a useful signal to Brussels that all is not well and change is needed in Europe...
This.

Chris944_S2

1,920 posts

224 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Puggit said:
Le Pen winning round 1 won't change the end result, but will still create a political earthquake.
It's not the first time, Jean Marie Le Pen got through to the 2nd round against Chirac. And then got trounced, because the majority of French people would vote for anyone except the extreme right.
The FN has been on ~20% for 20+ years, this is nothing new in France. They haven't made any steps forward, despite trying to ride the wave of populism following Brexit and Trump.

Kolbenkopp

2,343 posts

152 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
Am I missing something here? Who's 'PeterSweden7'? Anything from French Interior Ministry (as stated on that image). Thanks.
Not sure who this Peter is, but the numbers are most likely from Bloomberg who get them from the French interior ministry website. They in turn publish them in the order they arrive, with smaller polling stations in less populated areas delivering sooner.

Suppose there is less support for Le Pen in urban areas so at the moment I would trust the polls more than 9m counted votes.


Edited by Kolbenkopp on Sunday 23 April 20:45

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Barring something dramatic happening - like Macron being exposed as a teetotal vegan - I can't see how Le Pen will even get close to him in round 2. I guess this is why the voting system is designed as it is.

///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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http://www.lefigaro.fr/

just now has Macron on nearly 24%, Pen on 22%

Puggit

48,526 posts

249 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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https://twitter.com/afneil/status/8562322684734873... - 20m votes counted.

Seems it's rural areas first, so there'll be an anti-Le Pen swing from the cities.