Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

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johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

166 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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br d said:
"Implosion", "Disaster" and "Shambles" have been the key words regarding Ukip today on the BBC, as you say they're positively orgasmic.
having 4 million votes but only one MP is obviously going to mean a lot of questions.
BBC using the C word is out of order.

mph1977

12,467 posts

170 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
br d said:
"Implosion", "Disaster" and "Shambles" have been the key words regarding Ukip today on the BBC, as you say they're positively orgasmic.
having 4 million votes but only one MP is obviously going to mean a lot of questions.
BBC using the C word is out of order.
it indiciates one ot he weaknesses / strengths of FPTP with regard to the ability of minoirty parties to convert votes into seats if the minority interest is not concentrated by geography

Timmy40

12,915 posts

200 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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The Don of Croy said:
In the interests of fairness...


...there's a piece in today's Grauniad (albeit written by a former Labour Party worker) complaining about BBC bias during the GE against Labour.

His particular beef is against the SNP/Labour stitch-up-that-never-was that apparently the Beeb promoted at every turn in the face of Labour denials (but presumably not SNP ones). He may have a point? Anyways, from what I saw the Beeb (and the press) latched onto whatever outlandish claims our tartan friends may have uttered and presented them as fact...rather like the current furore over UKIP and funding/leadership/Carswell etc etc
What I found quite funny was Labour repeatedly saying there wouldn't be a coalition ( except of course we all knew there would ) but big mouth Sturgeon kept sounding off about how she would form a Government with Labour post the election.

Countdown

40,249 posts

198 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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greygoose said:
br d said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
they have been almost coming in their collective pants today because of the news that UKIP have a few post election issues.
"Implosion", "Disaster" and "Shambles" have been the key words regarding Ukip today on the BBC, as you say they're positively orgasmic.
Seems to be the main story on Sky too, obviously all of the media are biased against UKIP.
Pretty much the same with the lefties over at the Daily Mail and Breitbart....

Infamy, infamy.....

0000

13,812 posts

193 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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Apparently >1000 people a day are deciding not to continue paying the licence fee. Tick tock.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

166 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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0000 said:
Apparently >1000 people a day are deciding not to continue paying the licence fee. Tick tock.
Wonder what the number would be for it to be too many to chase for payment and the whole things collapes

Luke Warm

496 posts

146 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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BBC news should be called 'things we think are important'. Seriously thinking of giving up watching live TV and not paying the stupid licence tax.

The Don of Croy

6,015 posts

161 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Luke Warm said:
BBC news should be called 'things we think are important'. Seriously thinking of giving up watching live TV and not paying the stupid licence tax.
Last week - or the week before? - they ran an EXCLUSIVE about some SA sprinter bod who wanted to complain that they felt being asked to prove their gender (after winning a race) made them upset.

The question was posed in 2009.

I had to check a calendar just to be sure we were in 2015. And that is NEWS.

There was a nice moment in the coverage of the Queen's speech on digital news (200 on Freesat) where the reporter was discussing the content with the editor of the Economist, and a hack from New Statesman...plenty of vitriol from the lefty then repeated by the BBC reporter, cut down by Eco Ed with "we've just had an election where those ideas failed to get backing - this speech doesn't need to cover that ground again" - shut the argument down very neatly.

Sir Humphrey

387 posts

125 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Timmy40 said:
Again, last night on the radio news I heard 4/5 of members had voted to strike, even the most mathematically challenged journalist could have easily worked out that 80% of 60% is 48%, and reported it as 48% of rail workers voted to strike.

This isn't just lazy reporting, this is a systematic distortion of the facts on an on going and deliberate basis. And I'm getting fedup with it as member of the public.

I WANT UNBIASED TRUTHFUL AND ACCURATE REPORTING.

I DONT WANT CONSERVATIVE BIAS

I DONT WANT LABOUR BIAS.
Unbiased reporting isn't possible, what is possible is an organisation which is openly left/right wing, if you read both the Telegraph and the Guardian you are probably going to get something fairly balanced on most topics.

Funk

26,362 posts

211 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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The Don of Croy said:
There was a nice moment in the coverage of the Queen's speech on digital news (200 on Freesat) where the reporter was discussing the content with the editor of the Economist, and a hack from New Statesman...plenty of vitriol from the lefty then repeated by the BBC reporter, cut down by Eco Ed with "we've just had an election where those ideas failed to get backing - this speech doesn't need to cover that ground again" - shut the argument down very neatly.
Awesome, I'd have loved to have seen that.

It's about time the Lefties realised they lost and people have rejected their views and ideas.

Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

171 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Luke Warm said:
BBC news should be called 'things we think are important'. Seriously thinking of giving up watching live TV and not paying the stupid licence tax.
I did just that in 2006. Being forced to fund a media company if one has the cheek to watch a live broadcast from a competitor, is iniquitous . The fact that the BBC by their own admission is so left wing biased makes matters worse.Especially when their charter states they must be impartial.

Obviously, not having a TV, I do not see much BBC material, but what I do see, particularly news wise is much tilted leftward. Some of their election coverage was blatently pro Labour.

Appears that odious PC little man Cohen has had his feathers ruffled.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3106599/I-...





turbobloke

104,508 posts

262 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Cheese Mechanic said:
Luke Warm said:
BBC news should be called 'things we think are important'. Seriously thinking of giving up watching live TV and not paying the stupid licence tax.
I did just that in 2006. Being forced to fund a media company if one has the cheek to watch a live broadcast from a competitor, is iniquitous . The fact that the BBC by their own admission is so left wing biased makes matters worse.Especially when their charter states they must be impartial.

Obviously, not having a TV, I do not see much BBC material, but what I do see, particularly news wise is much tilted leftward. Some of their election coverage was blatently pro Labour.

Appears that odious PC little man Cohen has had his feathers ruffled.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3106599/I-...
Excellent.

Feathers ruffled and ripe for plucking.


Article said:
Mr Whittingdale, formerly chairman of the Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee, has been a particularly fierce critic of the BBC’s spending habits, and warned in a report earlier this year that the BBC should prepare for the end of the TV licence fee within a decade.
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mph1977

12,467 posts

170 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Cheese Mechanic said:
Luke Warm said:
BBC news should be called 'things we think are important'. Seriously thinking of giving up watching live TV and not paying the stupid licence tax.
I did just that in 2006. Being forced to fund a media company if one has the cheek to watch a live broadcast from a competitor, is iniquitous . The fact that the BBC by their own admission is so left wing biased makes matters worse.Especially when their charter states they must be impartial.

Obviously, not having a TV, I do not see much BBC material, but what I do see, particularly news wise is much tilted leftward. Some of their election coverage was blatently pro Labour.

Appears that odious PC little man Cohen has had his feathers ruffled.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3106599/I-...
confirmation bias much ...

the fact that both sides regularly complain aobut BBC content suggests that confirmation bias is strongly in play ... and given the way in which PH circle jerks and confirms this confirmation bias ...

chris watton

22,477 posts

262 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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The only time I have tuned into any BBC news and current affairs programme during the last few years was at last months GE, when it became clear labour had lost.

It was well worth it just to see the look on their collective faces - you could even tell in their voices that they were very upset. For Hugh Edwards, you'd be forgiven for thinking his whole world had ended.

It was brilliant viewing, wish I had recorded it , now..

turbobloke

104,508 posts

262 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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mph1977 said:
Cheese Mechanic said:
Luke Warm said:
BBC news should be called 'things we think are important'. Seriously thinking of giving up watching live TV and not paying the stupid licence tax.
I did just that in 2006. Being forced to fund a media company if one has the cheek to watch a live broadcast from a competitor, is iniquitous . The fact that the BBC by their own admission is so left wing biased makes matters worse.Especially when their charter states they must be impartial.

Obviously, not having a TV, I do not see much BBC material, but what I do see, particularly news wise is much tilted leftward. Some of their election coverage was blatently pro Labour.

Appears that odious PC little man Cohen has had his feathers ruffled.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3106599/I-...
confirmation bias much ...

the fact that both sides regularly complain aobut BBC content suggests that confirmation bias is strongly in play ... and given the way in which PH circle jerks and confirms this confirmation bias ...
You appear to be in your own circle. It's been pointed out n times that complaints are not a valid metric regarding bias. This is because complaints can be vexatious and tactical and (ironically) relate to the complainant not only the source material. The bias is in the output, that's where it's visible and measured.

Confirmation bias has nothing whatsoever to do with it. If you persist with the risible claim that people really cannot spot the self-evident and self-confessed left wing BBC bias, how anyone manages to spot that the Mail has editorials biased to the right must be a miracle. Clearly there's nothing miraculous about spotting obvious bias as it's obvious, except of course to the most determined of beeb sycophants.

Any line that the BBC is not left-biased is simply not credible, and feeble excuse number 326 simply won't do any more.

turbobloke

104,508 posts

262 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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chris watton said:
The only time I have tuned into any BBC news and current affairs programme during the last few years was at last months GE, when it became clear labour had lost.

It was well worth it just to see the look on their collective faces - you could even tell in their voices that they were very upset. For Hugh Edwards, you'd be forgiven for thinking his whole world had ended.
I didn't see it but recall reading a report on the BBC's biased coverage in which the writer described Edwards' evolving countenance as that of a man being told his dog has been run over.

Then there was that website BBC guff telling people how to vote, with an image of a pencil hovering over the Labour candidate's box laugh

The licence fee gone within 10 years is too long to wait, next year would do, but it's better than never.

Beati Dogu

8,955 posts

141 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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I watched quite a bit of the BBC's election night show and it was more like a wake. The exit poll clearly took the wind out of their sails and they never recovered from that all night.

Timmy40

12,915 posts

200 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Beati Dogu said:
I watched quite a bit of the BBC's election night show and it was more like a wake. The exit poll clearly took the wind out of their sails and they never recovered from that all night.
hehe yep, as the night wore on the faces got longer and longer. It was hilarious. The post election coverage was interesting too, the BBC virtually laid on a coronation when Bliar got in.

turbobloke

104,508 posts

262 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Timmy40 said:
Beati Dogu said:
I watched quite a bit of the BBC's election night show and it was more like a wake. The exit poll clearly took the wind out of their sails and they never recovered from that all night.
hehe yep, as the night wore on the faces got longer and longer. It was hilarious. The post election coverage was interesting too, the BBC virtually laid on a coronation when Bliar got in.
Early on the norning after, when it was becoming obvious that the Coservatives were heading for an overall majority, Mrs TB (who watches the BBC from time to tome) reported that the politically neutral laugh Edwards asked one of the troupe of lefties that passed as co-presenters how they felt when the exit poll was announced. The reply, apparently, was that she wanted to hide under the desk, at which point Edwards replied 'I think we all did'. Clearly a mere factoid meant nothing on a personal level to those beeb bastions of political impartiality.

BBC


mph1977

12,467 posts

170 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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turbobloke said:
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Then there was that website BBC guff telling people how to vote, with an image of a pencil hovering over the Labour candidate's box laugh
Mike Corley levels of confirmation bias lunacy
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