England footballer 'arrested over underage sex allegations"

England footballer 'arrested over underage sex allegations"

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irocfan

40,872 posts

192 months

Sunday 31st March 2019
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Barga said:
zarjaz1991 said:
His behaviour was appalling, I have no sympathy, sorry.
Agreed but do you think he had been treated as others have been?
I guess the argument is that he's been treated correctly - the others appallingly leniently.

Barga

12,241 posts

208 months

Sunday 31st March 2019
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irocfan said:
Barga said:
zarjaz1991 said:
His behaviour was appalling, I have no sympathy, sorry.
Agreed but do you think he had been treated as others have been?
I guess the argument is that he's been treated correctly - the others appallingly leniently.
The moral of the story is if you want to get off leniently don’t be a famous male footballer!

George Smiley

5,048 posts

83 months

Sunday 31st March 2019
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Barga said:
irocfan said:
Barga said:
zarjaz1991 said:
His behaviour was appalling, I have no sympathy, sorry.
Agreed but do you think he had been treated as others have been?
I guess the argument is that he's been treated correctly - the others appallingly leniently.
The moral of the story is if you want to get off leniently don’t be a famous male footballer!
You think he was unfairly punished?

Barga

12,241 posts

208 months

Sunday 31st March 2019
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George Smiley said:
Barga said:
irocfan said:
Barga said:
zarjaz1991 said:
His behaviour was appalling, I have no sympathy, sorry.
Agreed but do you think he had been treated as others have been?
I guess the argument is that he's been treated correctly - the others appallingly leniently.
The moral of the story is if you want to get off leniently don’t be a famous male footballer!
You think he was unfairly punished?
In light of what others have received do you not?

andymc

7,373 posts

209 months

Sunday 31st March 2019
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Barga said:
George Smiley said:
Barga said:
irocfan said:
Barga said:
zarjaz1991 said:
His behaviour was appalling, I have no sympathy, sorry.
Agreed but do you think he had been treated as others have been?
I guess the argument is that he's been treated correctly - the others appallingly leniently.
The moral of the story is if you want to get off leniently don’t be a famous male footballer!
You think he was unfairly punished?
In light of what others have received do you not?
what about the glut of female teachers shagging their pupils and getting suspended sentences? Treated very harshly and I say that as a Newcastle fan

Jim the Sunderer

3,241 posts

184 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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That's an unfortunate brand of slacks he's wearing.

George Smiley

5,048 posts

83 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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Barga said:
George Smiley said:
Barga said:
irocfan said:
Barga said:
zarjaz1991 said:
His behaviour was appalling, I have no sympathy, sorry.
Agreed but do you think he had been treated as others have been?
I guess the argument is that he's been treated correctly - the others appallingly leniently.
The moral of the story is if you want to get off leniently don’t be a famous male footballer!
You think he was unfairly punished?
In light of what others have received do you not?
Don’t be a sea lion and answer a question with a question. Do you think he was unfairly treated?

My question is really easy to understand (even for a football fan)

NoNeed

15,137 posts

202 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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Maybe the other people got in early guilty pleas and showed remorse and the footballer in quest didn't.

PurpleTurtle

7,142 posts

146 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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I think he was made an example of within the sentencing powers available, had he been Joe Public he would have probably got a lesser sentence. Not defending him - obviously what he has done is very wrong - but I think he's copped a sentence at the thicker end of the scale.

All that aside, the Daily Mail is predictably out to get him now. He's done his time, he should be able to move on with his life now. That's what rehabilitation is about.

The Daily Mail, in their self-appointed role as PaedoFinder General (whilst running their sidebar of shame full of paparazzi shots of young women in bikins, some with and some without permission) won't rest until they've done the full Ched Evans on him, making him completely toxic as a player. I think the best option all round would be for him to go play abroad, but I doubt the conditions of his release on licence will allow that.

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

13,153 posts

102 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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PurpleTurtle said:
I think he was made an example of within the sentencing powers available, had he been Joe Public he would have probably got a lesser sentence. Not defending him - obviously what he has done is very wrong - but I think he's copped a sentence at the thicker end of the scale.

All that aside, the Daily Mail is predictably out to get him now. He's done his time, he should be able to move on with his life now. That's what rehabilitation is about.

The Daily Mail, in their self-appointed role as PaedoFinder General (whilst running their sidebar of shame full of paparazzi shots of young women in bikins, some with and some without permission) won't rest until they've done the full Ched Evans on him, making him completely toxic as a player. I think the best option all round would be for him to go play abroad, but I doubt the conditions of his release on licence will allow that.
The thing is, I can't see him wanting to, with a young daughter, by a mother who has no desire to follow him anywhere.

The thing that gets to me is the press constantly referring to him as a Peado. Again, not defending him, but a peadophille is someone who is sexually attracted to the pre-pubescent form. The lass he had a fumble with was definitely not this, she was underage, that was his crime.

PurpleTurtle

7,142 posts

146 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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Quite, he's technically an ephebophile, but that doesn't flog as much clickbait advertising.

Barga

12,241 posts

208 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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George Smiley said:
Barga said:
George Smiley said:
Barga said:
irocfan said:
Barga said:
zarjaz1991 said:
His behaviour was appalling, I have no sympathy, sorry.
Agreed but do you think he had been treated as others have been?
I guess the argument is that he's been treated correctly - the others appallingly leniently.
The moral of the story is if you want to get off leniently don’t be a famous male footballer!
You think he was unfairly punished?
In light of what others have received do you not?
Don’t be a sea lion and answer a question with a question. Do you think he was unfairly treated?

My question is really easy to understand (even for a football fan)
Do you think you are more intelligent because you are not a football fan?

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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The sentence did strike me strong. However, he appealed and it was upheld so that suggests the judge was within the guidelines.

PurpleTurtle said:
Quite, he's technically an ephebophile, but that doesn't flog as much clickbait advertising.
And it's not in common usage / no distinction is made in law.


SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

255 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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La Liga said:
The sentence did strike me strong. However, he appealed and it was upheld so that suggests the judge was within the guidelines.

PurpleTurtle said:
Quite, he's technically an ephebophile, but that doesn't flog as much clickbait advertising.
And it's not in common usage / no distinction is made in law.
I think a distinction is made in law, since he did 3 years, not 20.

George Smiley

5,048 posts

83 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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PurpleTurtle said:
I think he was made an example of within the sentencing powers available, had he been Joe Public he would have probably got a lesser sentence. Not defending him - obviously what he has done is very wrong - but I think he's copped a sentence at the thicker end of the scale.

All that aside, the Daily Mail is predictably out to get him now. He's done his time, he should be able to move on with his life now. That's what rehabilitation is about.

The Daily Mail, in their self-appointed role as PaedoFinder General (whilst running their sidebar of shame full of paparazzi shots of young women in bikins, some with and some without permission) won't rest until they've done the full Ched Evans on him, making him completely toxic as a player. I think the best option all round would be for him to go play abroad, but I doubt the conditions of his release on licence will allow that.
Let someone finger your daughter and say they’ve do their time.

Once a nonce always a nonce

George Smiley

5,048 posts

83 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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Barga said:
George Smiley said:
Barga said:
George Smiley said:
Barga said:
irocfan said:
Barga said:
zarjaz1991 said:
His behaviour was appalling, I have no sympathy, sorry.
Agreed but do you think he had been treated as others have been?
I guess the argument is that he's been treated correctly - the others appallingly leniently.
The moral of the story is if you want to get off leniently don’t be a famous male footballer!
You think he was unfairly punished?
In light of what others have received do you not?
Don’t be a sea lion and answer a question with a question. Do you think he was unfairly treated?

My question is really easy to understand (even for a football fan)
Do you think you are more intelligent because you are not a football fan?
I would not make such a supposition.

There’s an answer, now you try.

Barga

12,241 posts

208 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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George Smiley said:
I would not make such a supposition.

There’s an answer, now you try.
I do not believe he was treated equally.

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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SpeckledJim said:
La Liga said:
The sentence did strike me strong. However, he appealed and it was upheld so that suggests the judge was within the guidelines.

PurpleTurtle said:
Quite, he's technically an ephebophile, but that doesn't flog as much clickbait advertising.
And it's not in common usage / no distinction is made in law.
I think a distinction is made in law, since he did 3 years, not 20.
He's talking about the specific wording, not severity of the offence due to age of the victim. The law doesn't use specific wording to distinguish between all the 'philes', which is why it's not expected for the media to, either.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

255 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2019
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La Liga said:
SpeckledJim said:
La Liga said:
The sentence did strike me strong. However, he appealed and it was upheld so that suggests the judge was within the guidelines.

PurpleTurtle said:
Quite, he's technically an ephebophile, but that doesn't flog as much clickbait advertising.
And it's not in common usage / no distinction is made in law.
I think a distinction is made in law, since he did 3 years, not 20.
He's talking about the specific wording, not severity of the offence due to age of the victim. The law doesn't use specific wording to distinguish between all the 'philes', which is why it's not expected for the media to, either.
Genuine question: does the legislation use the word paedophile?

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2019
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No, it makes no reference to any of them.