Policing of pro Palestinian marches

[ZedLeg]

What’s driving the fear, anti-semitic action or politicians stoking the flames because they want to clamp down on protest again?

[BOR]

There is no fear.

It's pro Netanyahu loyalists trying to shut down any opposition to what they are doing in Gaza.

[F22GRN]

Countdown said:

if that's the case (and jews are all observing the sabbath) isn't Saturday the best day for the marches to take place? I mean London can't be considered a no-go area for Jews if they weren't going anywhere?

AIUI the protests happen in a specific area of London and for a limited time, it doesn't happen anywhere near areas which are predominantly Jewish. To suggest that these marches are turning London into a "No Go Area" is bks.

Sorry to tell you that Central London synagogues have been targeted on Saturdays. It is what it is. There’s no arguing with facts.

[Panamax]

BOR said:

There is no fear.

It's pro Netanyahu loyalists trying to shut down any opposition to what they are doing in Gaza.

^^^ Absolutely this.

[Vanden Saab]

Earthdweller said:

Brick Cop is actually very good at articulating issues

It could however be something as simple as an arrest/detention to prevent a breach of the peace

It can be used to protect and remove the detainee from harm

It does not necessarily mean the detainee has done anything wrong but that their presence alone is likely to cause disorder

The optics of it might not look great but if you have a baying mob several hundred/thousand strong looking for the blood of a single person it is for precisely this reason that the Police will remove the single person from the location .. the Police have then done what is required of them, they have prevented a breach of the peace occurring

There’s multiple scenarios where this will happen on a daily basis up/down the country and it very rarely results in any form of further action with the detained being released once removed from the location

Peace March you say..

[FiF]

Question is what do people want? Do you want going in hard? Kettling? Snatch squads? That will end up in a riot, a literal riot, and the cracked heads could include Tabitha and Jocasta from Rickmansworth, not just whichever hardline Hamas terrorist nutter from Barnet, or some right wing née football hooligan from Millwall.

[Vanden Saab]

FiF said:

Question is what do people want? Do you want going in hard? Kettling? Snatch squads? That will end up in a riot, a literal riot, and the cracked heads could include Tabitha and Jocasta from Rickmansworth, not just whichever hardline Hamas terrorist nutter from Barnet, or some right wing née football hooligan from Millwall.

Yes. Police without fear or favour. If stopping racism starts a riot then so be it. You know if it was a far-right group they would not hold back.

[Oliver Hardy]

No one in most cases can really tell who is Jewish and who isn't in a crowd unless someone decides to dress up in the Jewish attire, can they?

It has to be accepted the police have a difficult job to do in these situations and letting some offences slide is probably necessary, but what I have an issue with current policing is that they are not dealing with the very aggressive individuals who are spouting hatred, there are calls and signs that call for violence. Preachers in the mosques where/are preachers and get recorded calling for Jewish deaths yet the police say no crimes are committed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5irQUXb-1A&t=...

The claims by the police that calling for Jihad that it can mean many things and yes it is true it can but context of over throwing the Israeli state surely the meaning is obvious. No action seems to have been brought against these celebrating the Hamas attack on Israel I can't find the video now but the Sunderland student who went on X to declare how great she felt about the attack and hoped it would happen again, was she ever prosecuted or even arrested?

Contrast that to the swift response of the police against Tommy (I know two names) Robinson, Lawrence Fox and others and others.

[fido]

FiF said:

Question is what do people want? Do you want going in hard? Kettling? Snatch squads? That will end up in a riot, a literal riot, and the cracked heads could include Tabitha and Jocasta from Rickmansworth, not just whichever hardline Hamas terrorist nutter from Barnet, or some right wing née football hooligan from Millwall.

Why should it matter whether it's Jocasta, Yusha or Josh? Preach hatred and you should be dealt with.

[bitchstewie]

Much as I agree it's so funny how it's changed from all the wailing about heavy handed policing when it was the statue defenders or a bloke literally urinating on a memorial to a dead Police Officer.

[Vanden Saab]

bhstewie said:

Much as I agree it's so funny how it's changed from all the wailing about heavy handed policing when it was the statue defenders or a bloke literally urinating on a memorial to a dead Police Officer.

Bingo ...

[FiF]

fido said:

FiF said:

Question is what do people want? Do you want going in hard? Kettling? Snatch squads? That will end up in a riot, a literal riot, and the cracked heads could include Tabitha and Jocasta from Rickmansworth, not just whichever hardline Hamas terrorist nutter from Barnet, or some right wing née football hooligan from Millwall.

Why should it matter whether it's Jocasta, Yusha or Josh? Preach hatred and you should be dealt with.

It doesn't, however that ignores the practical issue of the mixture of protestors. There are clearly some who should be dragged out, arrested, cuffed and charged. Alongside them may be silly sods out for the day for the likes on social media.

So if there's a TSG style snatch and it then really kicks off we just know the narrative will be focussed on Tabitha and Jocasta out for the LoLs but ending up in a cell or even worse A and E.

Rock and a hard place.

[bodhi]

BOR said:

There is no fear.

It's pro Netanyahu loyalists trying to shut down any opposition to what they are doing in Gaza.

Easiest way to stop that would be for the pro-Hamas loyalists protesting every weekend to work "Free the Hostages" into their routine.

Just a thought.

[Countdown]

bodhi said:

Easiest way to stop that would be for the pro-Hamas loyalists protesting every weekend to work "Free the Hostages" into their routine.

Just a thought.

is that going to stop the IDF killing Palestinians?

[bodhi]

Countdown said:

bodhi said:

Easiest way to stop that would be for the pro-Hamas loyalists protesting every weekend to work "Free the Hostages" into their routine.

Just a thought.

is that going to stop the IDF killing Palestinians?

At the scale we are seeing currently yes, there's a very good chance that it would.

[julian987R]

London 'fashion' week has started early

'Shame on you!': Moment pro-Palestine LSE student mob shout down Israeli historian, 75, and call for him to be kicked off campus as he gives a lecture on the Middle East - despite his track record of being jailed for refusing to fight in West Bank

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13179503/...

[Countdown]

julian987R said:

London 'fashion' week has started early

'Shame on you!': Moment pro-Palestine LSE student mob shout down Israeli historian, 75, and call for him to be kicked off campus as he gives a lecture on the Middle East - despite his track record of being jailed for refusing to fight in West Bank

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13179503/...

The Israeli historian who thinks that Ben Gurion should have expelled all Palestinians from Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza in 1948.

What were those crazy LSE students thinking?

[Vanden Saab]

julian987R said:

London 'fashion' week has started early

'Shame on you!': Moment pro-Palestine LSE student mob shout down Israeli historian, 75, and call for him to be kicked off campus as he gives a lecture on the Middle East - despite his track record of being jailed for refusing to fight in West Bank

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13179503/...

2021 called, they want their masks back.

[donkmeister]

fizz47 said:

These the wrong type of Jews? They are also supporting Hamas?



The lowest of people are those trying to tug on the one brain cell type of person who can’t tell the difference of wanting the stopping of killing of innocent civilians and throwing around divisive rhetoric because they have no other argument … but khamas…..

I’m guessing the type who would be bowing down to Seulla braveman


https://x.com/skynews/status/1766482854903476590?s...

Are you genuinely saying they support Hamas, or are you being ironic about something said earlier?

If the former, supporting Hamas and saying "there should be a Palestinian state" are two very different things. From their own collective mouth:

As Jewish Socialists’ Group members with a long history of supporting the Palestinians, we were horrified at the attack by Hamas fighters on civilians in southern Israel on October 7. We were grief-stricken for the civilian victims and fearful for the Gazan people. We knew that Israel’s military response would be indiscriminate, disproportionate and motivated by revenge and racism against everyone in the Gaza Strip.

[Countdown]

I believe Fizz47 was being sarcastic. (In response to the comments suggesting that people going on these marches are all Hamas supporters)