Tory Leadership Election

[Vaud]

Cobnapint said:

So we may be about to be sold down the river. Cameron stepped aside to make way for a new leader and government that represented the verdict of the British people.

Well he was going anyway before the next election, and would have wanted his replacement to have 12+ months ahead of the election - so it is only a matter of which of the next 24-30 months he was going to leave in?

[gizlaroc]

janesmith1950 said:

Negotiating to win is appearing like you've lost when in fact you've won, not the other way around.

It is amazing just how many simply don't get this.

[brenflys777]

Amusing comment from Ruth Davidson - hinted at what we suspect - we've been f@cked

Edited by brenflys777 on Tuesday 12th July 15:55

[anonymous-user]

Cobnapint said:

Cameron stepped aside to make way for a new leader and government that represented the verdict of the British people.

Think you may be confusing what Cameron did and what you thought you would happen.

[Derek Smith]

boxxob said:

Derek Smith said:

Come on, May's done well. She sorted the Border Agency problems out.

define 'sorted'

She blamed someone else for the disastrous state it was in, despite her being in charge.

There, sorted.

[Derek Smith]

Greg66 said:

Cobnapint said:

Cameron stepped aside to make way for a new leader and government that represented the verdict of the British people.

Think you may be confusing what Cameron did and what you thought you would happen.

I was just about to post something similar, but perhaps not quite so polite.

[jmorgan]

She can get her snoopers charter up and running now.

[s2art]

ash73 said:

Stabbing Boris in the back wasn't very smart, it destroyed both of them and has probably undone all the hard work done by Farage and committed Brexit to a slow death.

In fact I'd go as far as to say he's a bloody idiot.

No idea why you think that. May has nailed her colours to the Brexit mast. She would have to resign if Brexit doesnt happen.

[Cobnapint]

s2art said:

No idea why you think that. May has nailed her colours to the Brexit mast. She would have to resign if Brexit doesnt happen.

But what form of Brexit will it be.

Offering up Brexit is one thing. Whether it contains all the original ingredients is another.

[markh1973]

Cobnapint said:

s2art said:

No idea why you think that. May has nailed her colours to the Brexit mast. She would have to resign if Brexit doesnt happen.

But what form of Brexit will it be.

Offering up Brexit is one thing. Whether it contains all the original ingredients is another.

But what are ALL the original ingredients and are they what was voted for?

[anonymous-user]

markh1973 said:

Cobnapint said:

s2art said:

No idea why you think that. May has nailed her colours to the Brexit mast. She would have to resign if Brexit doesnt happen.

But what form of Brexit will it be.

Offering up Brexit is one thing. Whether it contains all the original ingredients is another.

But what are ALL the original ingredients and are they what was voted for?

350m a week extra to the NHS, deport all EU nationals, 'take back control', retain free access to trade with Europe, other dumbass policies. Very Simple really (those who voted for such rubbish).

As said earlier, Gove/Johnson/Leadsom should be rewarded for their fantastic work by promoting them to be ministers responsible for delivering what they promised. If they don't, tough luck, bin it & fire them.

[gizlaroc]

Jimboka said:

350m a week extra to the NHS, deport all EU nationals, 'take back control', retain free access to trade with Europe, other dumbass policies. Very Simple really (those who voted for such rubbish).

Funny how you remainers saw it.

I saw it more like this...


£350m a week, £80m back but to be spent on what we are told to spend it all on.

"Take back control" was breaking away from a government run by unelected commissioners and decisions having to be agreed on by 27 other states with very differing needs from our own.

Being able to think about how we can control the flow of immigrants into the UK, accepting those that contribute and not accepting those that can simply afford the bus ticket to reap the benefits system we have on offer. As every 6 months we need to build a town the size of Cambridge or Oxford and implement the infrastructure that goes with it. We can afford a new city every 6 months with doctors surgeries, hospitals, police stations, fire stations, road networks, councils etc. etc.

The small fact the EU as a business with 28 different departments is well and truly fked!
In a business if 22 of those departments were losing money you would close them down, but rather than close those departments down the EU has decided we can use the finance of the ones that are not yet fked t bolster the ones that are to buy some time and hide what a clusterfk the EU economy is for a few more years.

The fact most of the EU banks are built on lies and over valued assets in a ponzi scheme and is being hidden and backed up by the CEB and the politicians that run it.
Even Deutsch Banks Chief Economist has said the EU banks need €150b bail out to not see a collapse happening.



But all rubbish isn't it?

I probably voted because I am uneducated, northern and a racist.

[don'tbesilly]

gizlaroc said:

Jimboka said:

350m a week extra to the NHS, deport all EU nationals, 'take back control', retain free access to trade with Europe, other dumbass policies. Very Simple really (those who voted for such rubbish).

Funny how you remainers saw it.

I saw it more like this...


£350m a week, £80m back but to be spent on what we are told to spend it all on.

"Take back control" was breaking away from a government run by unelected commissioners and decisions having to be agreed on by 27 other states with very differing needs from our own.

Being able to think about how we can control the flow of immigrants into the UK, accepting those that contribute and not accepting those that can simply afford the bus ticket to reap the benefits system we have on offer. As every 6 months we need to build a town the size of Cambridge or Oxford and implement the infrastructure that goes with it. We can afford a new city every 6 months with doctors surgeries, hospitals, police stations, fire stations, road networks, councils etc. etc.

The small fact the EU as a business with 28 different departments is well and truly fked!
In a business if 22 of those departments were losing money you would close them down, but rather than close those departments down the EU has decided we can use the finance of the ones that are not yet fked t bolster the ones that are to buy some time and hide what a clusterfk the EU economy is for a few more years.

The fact most of the EU banks are built on lies and over valued assets in a ponzi scheme and is being hidden and backed up by the CEB and the politicians that run it.
Even Deutsch Banks Chief Economist has said the EU banks need €150b bail out to not see a collapse happening.



But all rubbish isn't it?

I probably voted because I am uneducated, northern and a racist.

Excellent response, bonus points for not falling into the other bracket - being old

[anonymous-user]

don'tbesilly said:

gizlaroc said:

Jimboka said:

350m a week extra to the NHS, deport all EU nationals, 'take back control', retain free access to trade with Europe, other dumbass policies. Very Simple really (those who voted for such rubbish).

Funny how you remainers saw it.

I saw it more like this...


£350m a week, £80m back but to be spent on what we are told to spend it all on.

"Take back control" was breaking away from a government run by unelected commissioners and decisions having to be agreed on by 27 other states with very differing needs from our own.

Being able to think about how we can control the flow of immigrants into the UK, accepting those that contribute and not accepting those that can simply afford the bus ticket to reap the benefits system we have on offer. As every 6 months we need to build a town the size of Cambridge or Oxford and implement the infrastructure that goes with it. We can afford a new city every 6 months with doctors surgeries, hospitals, police stations, fire stations, road networks, councils etc. etc.

The small fact the EU as a business with 28 different departments is well and truly fked!
In a business if 22 of those departments were losing money you would close them down, but rather than close those departments down the EU has decided we can use the finance of the ones that are not yet fked t bolster the ones that are to buy some time and hide what a clusterfk the EU economy is for a few more years.

The fact most of the EU banks are built on lies and over valued assets in a ponzi scheme and is being hidden and backed up by the CEB and the politicians that run it.
Even Deutsch Banks Chief Economist has said the EU banks need €150b bail out to not see a collapse happening.



But all rubbish isn't it?

I probably voted because I am uneducated, northern and a racist.

Excellent response, bonus points for not falling into the other bracket - being old

Unfortunatlly a lot of suckers voted Brexit purely because they believed the lies & that is why the lying Brexit leaders (who run for the hills rather than 'deliver') won.
Luckily the adults are now back in charge so it will be watered down/canned

[Robertj21a]

Jimboka said:

Unfortunatlly a lot of suckers voted Brexit purely because they believed the lies & that is why the lying Brexit leaders (who run for the hills rather than 'deliver') won.
Luckily the adults are now back in charge so it will be watered down/canned

You are going to be so very disappointed !

Remind me, what was Osborne ranting on about in his scaremongering stories day after day ? -surely the world should have ended by now ?

[Derek Smith]

Jimboka said:

Unfortunatlly a lot of suckers voted Brexit purely because they believed the lies & that is why the lying Brexit leaders (who run for the hills rather than 'deliver') won.
Luckily the adults are now back in charge so it will be watered down/canned

But on the point about free movement of labour, the brexit mob, or at least Johnson, said he preferred the Norway option. None of the others denied it. May has the opportunity to say, if she goes for any option that includes free movement of EU labour, that that is what the brexit lot wanted.

[s2art]

Derek Smith said:

Jimboka said:

Unfortunatlly a lot of suckers voted Brexit purely because they believed the lies & that is why the lying Brexit leaders (who run for the hills rather than 'deliver') won.
Luckily the adults are now back in charge so it will be watered down/canned

But on the point about free movement of labour, the brexit mob, or at least Johnson, said he preferred the Norway option. None of the others denied it. May has the opportunity to say, if she goes for any option that includes free movement of EU labour, that that is what the brexit lot wanted.

Errm. No. The Norway option has the emergency brake option too.

[///ajd]

Derek Smith said:

Jimboka said:

Unfortunatlly a lot of suckers voted Brexit purely because they believed the lies & that is why the lying Brexit leaders (who run for the hills rather than 'deliver') won.
Luckily the adults are now back in charge so it will be watered down/canned

But on the point about free movement of labour, the brexit mob, or at least Johnson, said he preferred the Norway option. None of the others denied it. May has the opportunity to say, if she goes for any option that includes free movement of EU labour, that that is what the brexit lot wanted.

Derek - not quite how I recall it - they all promised the moon on a stick on immigration:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/31/eu-refe...

Wailing about 330,000 and class sizes does imply they will significantly reduce immigration, though they were careful not to put a figure on it as they were lying to draw in certain demographics.

--

Note how they all seemed to want Cameron to resign too back then. That was a lie too it seems going by all the subsequent "Dave you left" wailing!

[anonymous-user]

gizlaroc said:

Jimboka said:

350m a week extra to the NHS, deport all EU nationals, 'take back control', retain free access to trade with Europe, other dumbass policies. Very Simple really (those who voted for such rubbish).

Funny how you remainers saw it.

I saw it more like this...


£350m a week, £80m back but to be spent on what we are told to spend it all on.

"Take back control" was breaking away from a government run by unelected commissioners and decisions having to be agreed on by 27 other states with very differing needs from our own.

Being able to think about how we can control the flow of immigrants into the UK, accepting those that contribute and not accepting those that can simply afford the bus ticket to reap the benefits system we have on offer. As every 6 months we need to build a town the size of Cambridge or Oxford and implement the infrastructure that goes with it. We can afford a new city every 6 months with doctors surgeries, hospitals, police stations, fire stations, road networks, councils etc. etc.

The small fact the EU as a business with 28 different departments is well and truly fked!
In a business if 22 of those departments were losing money you would close them down, but rather than close those departments down the EU has decided we can use the finance of the ones that are not yet fked t bolster the ones that are to buy some time and hide what a clusterfk the EU economy is for a few more years.

The fact most of the EU banks are built on lies and over valued assets in a ponzi scheme and is being hidden and backed up by the CEB and the politicians that run it.
Even Deutsch Banks Chief Economist has said the EU banks need €150b bail out to not see a collapse happening.



But all rubbish isn't it?

I probably voted because I am uneducated, northern and a racist.

Phew glad to reads it mate I thought I was the only thick northern racist on here. I'm in my mid 50s and I voted cos I hated the youth of today and I wanted to fook them over on there roaming charges so there selfies would cost more

[brenflys777]

Jimboka said:

Unfortunatlly a lot of suckers voted Brexit purely because they believed the lies & that is why the lying Brexit leaders (who run for the hills rather than 'deliver') won.
Luckily the adults are now back in charge so it will be watered down/canned

'The adults'..... It's this kind of patronising tone which was adopted by the official remain camp which lost them a winnable referendum.

I voted out, so did lots of people, we won't get all of what we wanted because the out campaign comprises a whole range of motivations and priorities. If remain had won this would be true as well, lots wanted a united EU superstate and lots didn't. Compromises will always be required, but having won the referendum the larger compromises should be from remain in actually enacting BREXIT, what form that takes was always going to be defined by a government which comprises a majority of remainers - although hopefully 'adult' enough to want what's best for the country and with one eye on the next election.