Peaches Geldof found dead.
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drivin_me_nuts said:
What exactly is your problem?
Sadly any degree of intelligent debate or balance in this thread has been censored. For those who knew Peaches, the Geldof family and can share their genuine grief you have my utmost sympathy. A sad loss of a young life. For the rest of you, who lived In the same street, went to Wrotham on holiday, know someone who bought a Boomtown Rats album, went to LiveAid, were in the audience of The Big Breakfast when PY got into bed with MH or bought a copy of NUTS when she did the Agent Provocateur spread - stop pretending you know how it feels. You are all better than this.V41LEY said:
drivin_me_nuts said:
What exactly is your problem?
Sadly any degree of intelligent debate or balance in this thread has been censored. For those who knew Peaches, the Geldof family and can share their genuine grief you have my utmost sympathy. A sad loss of a young life. For the rest of you, who lived In the same street, went to Wrotham on holiday, know someone who bought a Boomtown Rats album, went to LiveAid, were in the audience of The Big Breakfast when PY got into bed with MH or bought a copy of NUTS when she did the Agent Provocateur spread - stop pretending you know how it feels. You are all better than this.Though I never, knew you at all...
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Yes we got it first time, it doesn't need to be said, we all get it, but we also would like to express ourselves in the small way we can, perhaps as a Beckerian Denial of death sentiment, perhaps just a knee jerk emotional response, we want to do that - why do you feel the need to drip cynicism and ridicule at this time?
V41LEY said:
Sadly any degree of intelligent debate or balance in this thread has been censored. For those who knew Peaches, the Geldof family and can share their genuine grief you have my utmost sympathy. A sad loss of a young life. For the rest of you, who lived In the same street, went to Wrotham on holiday, know someone who bought a Boomtown Rats album, went to LiveAid, were in the audience of The Big Breakfast when PY got into bed with MH or bought a copy of NUTS when she did the Agent Provocateur spread - stop pretending you know how it feels. You are all better than this.
Interesting reply. I hope your beliefs sustain you through your life and when grief strikes you and yours and a stranger pays their respects and acknowledges your loss, live by your principles and beliefs and tell them where to get off and admonish them for 'not being better than this'. Please, what ever you do, don't ever thank them, for that would be hyprocrasy on your part. I trust you have the integrity to do this.Grandpad58 said:
V41LEY said:
- stop pretending you know how it feels. You are all better than this.
I do.A sudden unexpected death of a 25 year old is a different animal to the demise of an elderly grandparent of course. Both are painful but outliving a child is a special kind of awful.
- If you are reading this thread baffled at some posters apparently emotional reaction then before you post a response it may be worth reflecting that different people have different degrees of empathy. It may be that you are the unemotional cold fish rather than them the gushing cry-baby.
Some of the posters in this thread are unreal.
No doubt I will get censored or banned but really..................Keep it in perspective and try to keep it a bit real.
Accept that not everybody will actually empathise or even sympathise with the news.
That may upset people but that's the reality and it actually reflects what people may think in the real world.
There is a very good article about the press coverage by Roy Greenslade in I think the Guardians site.
Some of the fakery associated with the coverage is just as distasteful as some of the bad jokes.
No doubt I will get censored or banned but really..................Keep it in perspective and try to keep it a bit real.
Accept that not everybody will actually empathise or even sympathise with the news.
That may upset people but that's the reality and it actually reflects what people may think in the real world.
There is a very good article about the press coverage by Roy Greenslade in I think the Guardians site.
Some of the fakery associated with the coverage is just as distasteful as some of the bad jokes.
V41LEY said:
Sadly any degree of intelligent debate or balance in this thread has been censored. For those who knew Peaches, the Geldof family and can share their genuine grief you have my utmost sympathy. A sad loss of a young life. For the rest of you, who lived In the same street, went to Wrotham on holiday, know someone who bought a Boomtown Rats album, went to LiveAid, were in the audience of The Big Breakfast when PY got into bed with MH or bought a copy of NUTS when she did the Agent Provocateur spread - stop pretending you know how it feels. You are all better than this.
When I was about six years old I was out for a walk with my grandfather when we were passed by a funeral cortege. He made us stop, removed his hat and bowed his head while they passed. I asked him who it was and he said he didn't know. I've never forgotten what he said to me. ''One day it'll be you or me in there - costs nothing to pay your respects to a stranger'' Maybe it was the effect of living through two horrendous wars, but I think his generation were more aware of the fragility of life than we are today. Humans have always marked the end of life, and honoured their dead. I don't see that expressing one's sympathies via some form of social media is really any different to what my grandfather did all those years ago. There will always be some who take it too far, but then there probably always were. For most people it's a brief and sincere expression of sympathy and I don't think it's really for anyone else to tell them that's a bad thing. I too find the Dianafication of mourning unattractive.
But what many are objecting to, just to spell it out in case you were unsure, is the continued posting by the gobs
tes like valley and okgo about why it it all so pathetic etc.
Yes, yes we get it. Every day, about 99% of what I read on PH is utter drivel which is why don't I reply to it. You are. You are not winning any internet dweeb points by your continued poor taste posting here.
But what many are objecting to, just to spell it out in case you were unsure, is the continued posting by the gobs
tes like valley and okgo about why it it all so pathetic etc. Yes, yes we get it. Every day, about 99% of what I read on PH is utter drivel which is why don't I reply to it. You are. You are not winning any internet dweeb points by your continued poor taste posting here.
Whilst I'll never understand the publics "grief" for celebs (because they are never normal everyday people the "RIP" come out) when they die, particularly ones that have had no influence in their lives apart from a couple of cheesy movies (Paul Fast bloke, American), it goes without saying that Bob Geldof will be stricken with grief, as any father would, so there's no need for people in this thread to point out the bloody obvious.
As someone who witnessed a mother and father grieve over their young son (my brother) I can tell you it really drags you to the bottom of the despair barrel.
So for that I'm sad and a little stirred emotionally for Bob Geldof, especially as I've been aware of him since I was a young teen myself, but as I've never been interested in Peaches or what simple things she's done in her life to call it a life I'm not upset and I'll pass on all this fake grief that is oft spouted when a celeb dies.
As someone who witnessed a mother and father grieve over their young son (my brother) I can tell you it really drags you to the bottom of the despair barrel.
So for that I'm sad and a little stirred emotionally for Bob Geldof, especially as I've been aware of him since I was a young teen myself, but as I've never been interested in Peaches or what simple things she's done in her life to call it a life I'm not upset and I'll pass on all this fake grief that is oft spouted when a celeb dies.
GTIR said:
Whilst I'll never understand the publics "grief" for celebs (because they are never normal everyday people the "RIP" come out) when they die, particularly ones that have had no influence in their lives apart from a couple of cheesy movies (Paul Fast bloke, American), it goes without saying that Bob Geldof will be stricken with grief, as any father would, so there's no need for people in this thread to point out the bloody obvious.
As someone who witnessed a mother and father grieve over their young son (my brother) I can tell you it really drags you to the bottom of the despair barrel.
So for that I'm sad and a little stirred emotionally for Bob Geldof, especially as I've been aware of him since I was a young teen myself, but as I've never been interested in Peaches or what simple things she's done in her life to call it a life I'm not upset and I'll pass on all this fake grief that is oft spouted when a celeb dies.
That's the best post of this thread in my opinion.As someone who witnessed a mother and father grieve over their young son (my brother) I can tell you it really drags you to the bottom of the despair barrel.
So for that I'm sad and a little stirred emotionally for Bob Geldof, especially as I've been aware of him since I was a young teen myself, but as I've never been interested in Peaches or what simple things she's done in her life to call it a life I'm not upset and I'll pass on all this fake grief that is oft spouted when a celeb dies.
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