Clocks going 2 hours forward?

[Roo]

Oakey said:

Throughout June and July it doesn't get dark till nearly 11pm here.

Which is exactly what a lot of the rest of the population of the country would like to have by going to GMT+2 in the summer.

[Oakey]

Roo said:

Which is exactly what a lot of the rest of the population of the country would like to have by going to GMT+2 in the summer.

So fking move North then.

Surely you understand that if it currently gets dark around 11pm in Blackpool, and adding an extra hour makes it dark around 00:00am, then those in Cumbria, Newcastle and eventually Scotland won't see darkness until around 00:30am - 1:30am respectively? Of course, this appears to be acceptable because it doesn't really affect you and once you lot down South have finished mincing around in the park playing 'outdoor activities' then us up North are expected to go to sleep whilst the sun is still setting.

[Neil H]

Oakey said:

Roo said:

Which is exactly what a lot of the rest of the population of the country would like to have by going to GMT+2 in the summer.

So fking move North then.

Surely you understand that if it currently gets dark around 11pm in Blackpool, and adding an extra hour makes it dark around 00:00am, then those in Cumbria, Newcastle and eventually Scotland won't see darkness until around 00:30am - 1:30am respectively? Of course, this appears to be acceptable because it doesn't really affect you and once you lot down South have finished mincing around in the park playing 'outdoor activities' then us up North are expected to go to sleep whilst the sun is still setting.

So fking move North South then.

[Oakey]

Neil H said:

So fking move North South then.

Sure, that's a sensible idea, all of us in the North will simply move South to escape the perpetual daylight of Summer and perpetual darkness of Winter. That'll be productive.

ETA: If it does go through I'm going to phone you every night of the summer at 00:30am - 1am; "What do you mean why am I phoning so late? The sun's still out, what do you mean you're in bed asleep? You lazy fker, it's still daylight"

Edited by Oakey on Tuesday 22 February 16:58

[Silver993tt]

oyster said:

Have you actually bothered to read either the thread or the news stories on this?

Scotland has less hours of daylight than England in the winter and more in the summer - how on earth will the different timezone mitigate this?

The timezones you refer to in Canada and the US are based on longitude not latitude as you propose for Scotland.

The same applies between England and France, one is just north of the other and yet in a different timezone. The difference is that the country to the north (England in this case with the vast majority of UK's population) wants to be on CET which makes perfect sense. That leaves Scotland, just to the north of England on it's own time zone.

[thinfourth2]

Silver993tt said:

oyster said:

Have you actually bothered to read either the thread or the news stories on this?

Scotland has less hours of daylight than England in the winter and more in the summer - how on earth will the different timezone mitigate this?

The timezones you refer to in Canada and the US are based on longitude not latitude as you propose for Scotland.

The same applies between England and France, one is just north of the other and yet in a different timezone. The difference is that the country to the north (England in this case with the vast majority of UK's population) wants to be on CET which makes perfect sense. That leaves Scotland, just to the north of England on it's own time zone.

And the scottish can carry on working the clocks the way they currently work and england can fk about to their hearts content until they finally twig that altering the clocks doesn't give you any more daylight

[Oakey]

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[mike62]

We need less daylight in the summer, not more, it's bad ebough getting my son to go to bed when it's light as it is.

[m3jappa]

Best thing it appears would be to just dig a trench just above the m25 and then round it a bit and cut the rest of the place off giving 'us' a nice little island with more daylight, more money, more room for activites and less complaining.

They hate 'us' anyway.

[Strangely Brown]

Silver993tt said:

... the vast majority of UK's population) wants to be on CET ...

You don't know that.

[colonel c]

Oakey said:

us up North are expected to go to sleep whilst the sun is still setting.

Don't they have curtains up north.

[Silver993tt]

Strangely Brown said:

You don't know that.

Whenever ther's any suggestion of joining CET, it's invariable the Scottish who object. So yes I do know that.

[Roo]

Oakey said:

So fking move North then.

Surely you understand that if it currently gets dark around 11pm in Blackpool, and adding an extra hour makes it dark around 00:00am, then those in Cumbria, Newcastle and eventually Scotland won't see darkness until around 00:30am - 1:30am respectively? Of course, this appears to be acceptable because it doesn't really affect you and once you lot down South have finished mincing around in the park playing 'outdoor activities' then us up North are expected to go to sleep whilst the sun is still setting.

So the majority of the population has to suffer for the minority?

[Roo]

m3jappa said:

Best thing it appears would be to just dig a trench just above the m25 and then round it a bit and cut the rest of the place off giving 'us' a nice little island with more daylight, more money, more room for activites and less complaining.

They hate 'us' anyway.

Independence for the home counties.

[Strangely Brown]

Silver993tt said:

Whenever ther's any suggestion of joining CET, it's invariable the Scottish who object. So yes I do know that.

The Scots objecting is not the same as saying that the vast majority of the English population are in favour. Unless and until there is a referendum in which there is sufficient turnout to show what "the vast majority" want, you absolutely DO NOT know that.

[Roo]

mike62 said:

We need less daylight in the summer, not more, it's bad ebough getting my son to go to bed when it's light as it is.

I haven't got children so that doesn't bother me.

[Funkateer]

Roo said:

mike62 said:

We need less daylight in the summer, not more, it's bad ebough getting my son to go to bed when it's light as it is.

I haven't got children so that doesn't bother me.

Just paint their bedroom windows black!

[Oakey]

colonel c said:

Don't they have curtains up north.

Well, we're normal and quite enjoy going to bed at night time, you know, when it's dark? Can't you lot just get up early, when the sun rises?

[Roo]

Oakey said:

Well, we're normal and quite enjoy going to bed at night time, you know, when it's dark? Can't you lot just get up early, when the sun rises?

Why should we get up at 5.00am in the summer so that you lot can enjoy longer lighter evenings?

As for all those that suggest we change our working hours - great idea. Remember that when you ring a company down South and they're shut whilst you're still at work.

[Oakey]

Roo said:

Why should we get up at 5.00am in the summer so that you lot can enjoy longer lighter evenings?

Don't hate the player, hate the game*

• Because that's how the sun works, it's not some gift we've had bestowed upon us, the further north you get, the later the sun sets. It's a simple concept and we shouldn't have to suffer because those down South feel hard done by. On the flipside you get less hours of darnkess in Winter.

Whilst we're getting longer evenings and no night time until daft o clock, and suffering miserable dark winter mornings, what exactly do you think is happening back in the rest of most of Europe? Do you think they're buying black out blinds and suffering the same Winter darkness? No, because they'll have light and darkness at reasonable hours.