Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

[Rick_1138]

Yahonza said:

alangla said:

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/mega-poll-s... Assuming this poll is close to accurate, how the hell is this possible? 41 seats returned including a load of gains from the Tories? I’ve not seen the detail but I assume it’s basically Labour taking a load of seats in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Dunbartonshire and into Renfrewshire & Inverclyde, the Lib Dem’s clinging on in NE Fife and the Northern Isles and the SNP winning everything else including Aberdeenshire, Moray, Dumfries & Galloway and the Tory seats across far south Lanarkshire and the Borders.

Exactly what does Yousaf have to do to lose these seats?

It's a poll (of polls) - a sample and best taken with a pinch of salt.
TBH I've no idea what will happen in Scotland at the next GE but would expect Labour to make big gains in SNP held seats.

Also big boundary changes this time, tbh its all gonna be a "on the night" event, out boundary is basically split in half and expanded west, what was a marginal Tory\SNP is now anyone's guess.

[Yahonza]

There's also that strange thing about parts of Scotland where it is either the SNP or the Tories (and never Labour) - so the SNP could be saved by nicking Conservative seats.

[irc]

Happy hate day. I would just like to say XXXX x XXXXX x XXXX.

[Roderick Spode]

Old Yousless getting it tight over on X/Twitter. Turns out that not very many people are appreciative of his Orwellian State Compelled Speech Bill, and ironically in response are espousing a great deal of hate towards the hapless and incompetent race baiting grifter. I'm sure the long finger of the State Polis will soon swing into action, and those responsible for such egregious hatred will be arrested and sent off for re-education.



https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Humza%20Yousaf%22&...

[Gecko1978]

Question I don't live in Scotland but I know some of our more left leaning friends do. So if I misgender someone can they report me to police Scotland. But as I am in London is it a crime.

[NoddyonNitrous]

Yes they can and Polis Scotland have to investigate.

[Newc]

irc said:

Happy hate day. I would just like to say XXXX x XXXXX x XXXX.

She's up and at 'em:

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/177474706894...

[Vanden Saab]

Newc said:

She's up and at 'em:

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/177474706894...

There is poking the bear and there is beating the st out of it with a bloody great club. This is the latter.
I particularly like the 'I am out of the country' line aka you can arrest me at the airport if you like..

[sherman]

Today reminds me of a Monty python scene.

https://youtu.be/FQ5YU_spBw0?si=u6q4vfTZocWy40jU

[reddiesel]

Gecko1978 said:

Question I don't live in Scotland but I know some of our more left leaning friends do. So if I misgender someone can they report me to police Scotland. But as I am in London is it a crime.

The trouble is of course that Scotland like the rest of the UK has changed beyond all recognition on account of Immigration . Factor in those of questionable sexuality and we have the need of the present sledgehammer to enforce harmony . Back in the day when we were either Fenian or Prod life was so much simpler .
At 60 years of age and contemplating after 40 years a move back north to Glasgow , I wonder about the Scottish Government’s priorities. All my ardent Nationalist school friends have seemingly gone very quiet . Can anyone tell me if the words Tory Scum come under this legislation ? At one stage it seemed this phrase had become a legitimate SNP campaign slogan.

[biggbn]

alangla said:

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/mega-poll-s... Assuming this poll is close to accurate, how the hell is this possible? 41 seats returned including a load of gains from the Tories? I’ve not seen the detail but I assume it’s basically Labour taking a load of seats in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Dunbartonshire and into Renfrewshire & Inverclyde, the Lib Dem’s clinging on in NE Fife and the Northern Isles and the SNP winning everything else including Aberdeenshire, Moray, Dumfries & Galloway and the Tory seats across far south Lanarkshire and the Borders.

Exactly what does Yousaf have to do to lose these seats?

I think it is possible for exactly the same reasons the Tories kept getting in for 14 years down south. For the majority of the electorate, who vote for the least worst, they were likely the least worst. Now due to our 24/7 news cycle and a conflation of Scottish and National politics, Sunak and Starmers lot seem unable to allow a few hours to pass without ourltdoing each other on the ineptitude/perceived ineptitude scales, so many think 'well, it's not too bad for ME personally', and vote with their noses pinched for comforting ineptitude rather than any new ineptitude that MIGHT damage THEM personally. I could not and will not vote for any political party north or south of the border right now, but I've felt that way for many election cycles.

[reddiesel]

NoddyonNitrous said:

Yes they can and Polis Scotland have to investigate.

These halfwits couldn’t catch snot in a hankie lest someone was providing dash cam footage .
Any news on Ann Gloag ?

[Gecko1978]

reddiesel said:

NoddyonNitrous said:

Yes they can and Polis Scotland have to investigate.

These halfwits couldn’t catch snot in a hankie lest someone was providing dash cam footage .
Any news on Ann Gloag ?

But question is can you be convicted of a crime which isn't a crime where you live and infact the place you posted it on the Internet (the host server) may also not be in Scotland.

So say I know Brenda McScotland used to be Bruce so being a tt I call her Bruce online and say look factually you are a man with male chromosomes and also a cock and balls.

Now the above might be true (also mean) but in England it's factually accurate and not slander what can police Scotland do?

[Glasgowrob]

anyone had a chap at the door yet from Poileas Alba.

had a pair of coppers at the office this morning but they were looking for the Drs surgery next door, not me thankfully.

[irc]

Gecko1978 said:

Question I don't live in Scotland but I know some of our more left leaning friends do. So if I misgender someone can they report me to police Scotland. But as I am in London is it a crime.

If you do it online yes. You may be in London but the crime is committed in Scotland if it is online and is read by someone in Scotland. In other words. the Scottish courts have awarded themselves worldwide jurisdiction. In England no extradition problems. If a Scottish court issues a warrant the English police arrest you and you are brought here to appear in court.

[irc]

sherman said:

Today reminds me of a Monty python scene.

https://youtu.be/FQ5YU_spBw0?si=u6q4vfTZocWy40jU

Jehova! Jehova!

[irc]

The next old firm game is on Sunday. Will Police Scotland computer servers be able to cope?

Calling someone a Fenian/Orange bd must be covered by the new law. So can be reported anonymously by anyone using the handy online form.

Good point made on Radio Scotland today. A supporter of the says inciting racial hatred was already a crime. To which the presenter said "has the law reduced it". The answer was don't know.

[renmure]

Wings has published the full legal opinion they obtained from the Dean of the Faculty of Advocates in relation to the Act and its possible interpretation and application by the police.

https://wingsoverscotland.com/a-thousand-paper-cra...

I suspect he (and any normal folk on any side of any argument) will be rightly happy with that opinion.

[Gecko1978]

renmure said:

Wings has published the full legal opinion they obtained from the Dean of the Faculty of Advocates in relation to the Act and its possible interpretation and application by the police.

https://wingsoverscotland.com/a-thousand-paper-cra...

I suspect he (and any normal folk on any side of any argument) will be rightly happy with that opinion.

So reading that post Brenda McScotlsnd is a man from England yes you could be prosecuted (could) post you don't accept a man can become a women (not directed at an individual) and the could becomes much weaker

[biggbn]

irc said:

The next old firm game is on Sunday. Will Police Scotland computer servers be able to cope?

Calling someone a Fenian/Orange bd must be covered by the new law. So can be reported anonymously by anyone using the handy online form.

Good point made on Radio Scotland today. A supporter of the says inciting racial hatred was already a crime. To which the presenter said "has the law reduced it". The answer was don't know.

I'll be straight on the phone, and not anonymously either, to report 22 people to the fraud squad for claiming to be football players..