Chris Huhne... going soon?
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I hope they put him through the wringer on this one. He comes across as being a devious, slippery lying b
d who's willing to cling on by his very fingertips - like most politicians I suppose. The longer he holds out, the more spectacular his fall should be.
What a wholly unpleasant little man.
d who's willing to cling on by his very fingertips - like most politicians I suppose. The longer he holds out, the more spectacular his fall should be.What a wholly unpleasant little man.
As I said a couple of pages back.
I suspect his defence will be, "I can't remember where I was at that time. You, the police, prove who WAS driving."
Essex plod then look at Gatso photo of rear of a car which happens to be displaying the same VRN as one registered to himself.
Frankly nobody will come out of this well, whatever happens.
Huhne, Ms Pryce, Plod, scameraship, the concept of S172 requests without proper evidence of identification other than confession, ...
stops to avoid sounding like fluffnik.
I suspect his defence will be, "I can't remember where I was at that time. You, the police, prove who WAS driving."
Essex plod then look at Gatso photo of rear of a car which happens to be displaying the same VRN as one registered to himself.
Frankly nobody will come out of this well, whatever happens.
Huhne, Ms Pryce, Plod, scameraship, the concept of S172 requests without proper evidence of identification other than confession, ...
stops to avoid sounding like fluffnik.
F i F said:
As I said a couple of pages back.
I suspect his defence will be, "I can't remember where I was at that time. You, the police, prove who WAS driving."
It is still mostly rumour at the moment, However, if the following evidence turns out to be true, then I think that a jury would have no problem reaching a guilty verdict.I suspect his defence will be, "I can't remember where I was at that time. You, the police, prove who WAS driving."
Chris Huhne probably arrived in Stansted on the 10:23 Ryanair flight. Ryanair say that they can find this information.
Vicky Price can prove that she was in London at the time of the offence.
Vicky Price told a Judge at the time.
One of the children remembers what happened.
Vicky Price has admitted to police that she took the points on his behalf.
There is no suggestion that anyone else had access to the car, and it wasn't reported stolen.
That all looks like a strong case to me.
Don
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don4l said:
That all looks like a strong case to me.
I'd agree, but it's a civil case sir.Oh sorry, forgot myself for a minute there.
I'm sure evidence could also be gathered relating to car parking, most airport car parks seem to take CCTV footage of number plate and driver at the barrier too these days.
Be interesting to see if he makes Essex jump through all the hoops.
If he does he should be finished for ever.
Perhaps they could get Callaghan and his super secret squirrel hit team involved.
don4l said:
It would appear that Vicky Price has signed a confession admitting that she took the points on Huhne's behalf.
Don
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Doesn't she realise that she's opening herself up to a charge of perverting the course of justice (which can carry prison time) by doing that? Daily Telegraph said:
Chris Huhne's former wife signed a sworn legal confession, admitting that she had taken speeding points on behalf of the Energy Secretary, The Daily Telegraph has learnt.
Full story here...Don
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Hell hath no fury...
youngsyr said:
Doesn't she realise that she's opening herself up to a charge of perverting the course of justice (which can carry prison time) by doing that?
Hell hath no fury...
I'm sure that she is aware of the potential consequences. However, she is likely to be able to claim that she was put under considerable pressuse. This means that she is quite likely to get a non-custodial sentence.Hell hath no fury...
Let's hope that he doesn't get prosecuted for the election expenses until after he gets out of prison for the PCoJ.
Don
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youngsyr said:
Doesn't she realise that she's opening herself up to a charge of perverting the course of justice (which can carry prison time) by doing that?
Hell hath no fury...
If I were cynical I might suggest that she realises that hubby has much more to lose than her. She has two strong lines to produce at any trial:Hell hath no fury...
1/ She might say she was pressured into taking the points by her husband. There is a provision in law which reduces the culpability of women in a marriage (partnership?) when coerced into crime. Further, she gained nothing from the offence, indeed was a loser, whilst he did, and
2/ She is the source of the evidence. I.e. she put the husband away. The motive might be considered to be revenge but her brief might come out with the fact that she had confessed at an early stage, before the marriage break-up, showing how contrite she was. I feel sure there is something she will bring forward as a catalyst to the change of heart.
I would put money, real money, that she started this after legal advice. Of course, I have no idea if she did.
So not only has she much less to lose but she will, almost certainly, receive a significantly lighter punishment.
Derek Smith said:
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I would put money, real money, that she started this after legal advice. Of course, I have no idea if she did.
So not only has she much less to lose but she will, almost certainly, receive a significantly lighter punishment.
Well, if we're betting, I bet Funk is closer to the mark: a paper is putting her up to this and is offering her big money and expensive legal representation to go through with it.I would put money, real money, that she started this after legal advice. Of course, I have no idea if she did.
So not only has she much less to lose but she will, almost certainly, receive a significantly lighter punishment.
Funk said:
I bet she has a paper willing to pay her well for her exposé after Huhne is put in prison for PtCoJ. 
Otherwise I can't see how even damning revenge is worth a PtCoJ conviction, let alone the risk of a spell staying at Her Majesty's pleasure.Bedazzled said:
If she is plotting her divorce settlement, as well as getting revenge as a woman scorned, and assuming the evidence is merely her word against his, how would the CPS expect that to play out in the minds of a jury?
A lot of that wealth is down to her and her contacts building his career.Bedazzled said:
...and yet nobody seems to know the exact time, or location, of the speeding ticket.
I think that you mean that you don't know the exact time or location of the speeding ticket.I think that you will find that Chris Huhne knows. Vicky Price probably knows. Some people who work in Essex plod also know.
Don
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Bedazzled said:
Derek Smith said:
...I would put money, real money, that she started this after legal advice.
Wiki said:
His wealth is estimated as £3.5 million.
If she is plotting her divorce settlement, as well as getting revenge as a woman scorned, and assuming the evidence is merely her word against his, how would the CPS expect that to play out in the minds of a jury?It would appear that there is more than one word against another. There are the points on her licence, the alibi (as such) that stops her being in the car in the location, the fact that he was at the other side of the camera from home at the right time. He would also be asked how he arrived home from Stanstead: hire cars, railway CCTV, if someone gave him a lift then there's all sorts of other checks there. CCTV in high security areas, such as airports, often has the requirement to keep video for some time.
youngsyr said:
Derek Smith said:
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I would put money, real money, that she started this after legal advice. Of course, I have no idea if she did.
So not only has she much less to lose but she will, almost certainly, receive a significantly lighter punishment.
Well, if we're betting, I bet Funk is closer to the mark: a paper is putting her up to this and is offering her big money and expensive legal representation to go through with it.I would put money, real money, that she started this after legal advice. Of course, I have no idea if she did.
So not only has she much less to lose but she will, almost certainly, receive a significantly lighter punishment.
Funk said:
I bet she has a paper willing to pay her well for her exposé after Huhne is put in prison for PtCoJ.
Otherwise I can't see how even damning revenge is worth a PtCoJ conviction, let alone the risk of a spell staying at Her Majesty's pleasure.Bedazzled said:
Derek Smith said:
...the alibi (as such) that stops her being in the car in the location...
Attending a meal in London is no alibi, until we know when and where the ticket was. We need to know more details to assess whether she could have been there at the time, either on the way to picking her husband up, or on the way home. It doesn't take long to get from London to Stanstead late at night, especially if you're speeding. As I said before, I suspect some people are judging him without challenging the evidence, for entirely political reasons.Bedazzled said:
don4l said:
I think that you mean that you don't know the exact time or location of the speeding ticket.
I think that you will find that Chris Huhne knows. Vicky Price probably knows. Some people who work in Essex plod also know.
Don
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Obviously they know, but if you're going to claim she can prove she wasn't there at the time, and couldn't have been driving, you need to back it up with some evidence. So, exactly when and where was the speeding ticket?I think that you will find that Chris Huhne knows. Vicky Price probably knows. Some people who work in Essex plod also know.
Don
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Bedazzled said:
...and yet nobody seems to know the exact time, or location, of the speeding ticket.
I'm not going to say that you are wrong, but anybody who has made the slightest effort to familiarse themselves with the case will see that you are unlikely to be correct.Don
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Derek Smith said:
I also find it difficult to put from my mind the idea that there is probably money involved somewhere. I'm not sure the 30 pieces of sliver she'd get from a paper would be enough though. Don't forget, he's got real money.
I'm not so sure. He is only worth £7m, and TBH, £3.5m isn't enough to retire on(comfortably) these days.My godfather retired on £3m 25 years ago. It hasn't gone according to plan.
Don
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